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Andor Mafia DP4

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ISO #61 •••

Lunatic though seems likelier to have framed Thoth so he had a pretense for why his Roleblocker was never verified

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ISO #62 •••

Totally forgot about whatever gift Rex was able to give away. No one claimed it

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ISO #63 •••
--> @Wryly
Lunatic though seems likelier to have framed Thoth so he had a pretense for why his Roleblocker was never verified

Whys that? Also why would I immediately call attention to the possibility of thoth being framed at the start of dp3 if I was the culprit?

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #64 •••
--> @Lunatic

Waive the NK, wait for Thoth to kill someone, claim you roleblocked that person, now there's an explanation for why you can't verify your roleblocker and you frame Thoth


As to the second, to farm towncred for being initially reasonable before pressing the mislynch

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ISO #65 •••
--> @Lunatic

Yo can you explain what your PM said to make you think your BP was passive

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ISO #66 •••
--> @Wryly
Waive the NK, wait for Thoth to kill someone, claim you roleblocked that person, now there's an explanation for why you can't verify your roleblocker and you frame Thoth


If I needed an explanation for why I didn't roleblock someone you'd think I would come up with a better 1x role to lie about then roleblocker lmao like how would that help my case?


As to the second, to farm towncred for being initially reasonable before pressing the mislynch

Or... Hear me out... I am actually town and was being open minded.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #67 •••
--> @Wryly
Yo can you explain what your PM said to make you think your BP was passive

Nothing in my PM. It is usually a passive role. I asked savant and he initially said it was passive then he changed it and said it wasn't

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #68 •••
--> @Lunatic

So it wasn't listed as a 1x in your PM?

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ISO #69 •••

Like I would've expected it to read 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Bulletproof. Not 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, Bulletproof

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ISO #70 •••
--> @Wryly

I’m honestly so confused

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #71 •••
--> @Wryly

The first one

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #72 •••

Blah blah blah text here text here


But I always laughed that my mage (or my warlock - long story) is the strongest spellcaster in the world of wowcraft


blah blah blah text here It does yes


You are Wendy, from “Alien Earth”

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ISO #73 •••
--> @Wryly

Either my brain isn't braining or I am talking to an alien right now.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #74 •••
--> @Lunatic

Or you're having a stroke while talking to an alien. Fun!

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ISO #75 •••
--> @Wryly
Or you're having a stroke while talking to an alien. Fun!

idk did I answer your question lol

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #76 •••
--> @Lunatic

Nah I'm still unclear. I would expect your role PM to read like this:


You are Luthen Rael. A spymaster and early architect of the Rebellion, you have a wide array of skills that make you an asset to your cause. Therefore, you are the JOAT, and you have the following abilities: 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Bulletproof.


If it was worded that way, I don't see how you could think your Bulletproof was passive.

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ISO #77 •••

blah blah blah I am Cassian Andor

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ISO #78 •••
--> @Wryly
Nah I'm still unclear. I would expect your role PM to read like this:

You are Luthen Rael. A spymaster and early architect of the Rebellion, you have a wide array of skills that make you an asset to your cause. Therefore, you are the JOAT, and you have the following abilities: 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Bulletproof.

If it was worded that way, I don't see how you could think your Bulletproof was passive.

That was basically my PM almost verbatim lmao.


And bulletproof is ALWAYS passive. I am making that assumption based on every bullet proof I have ever seen in existence. If it was phrased as a 1x self doctor or something I would assume it wasn't passive.


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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #79 •••

As for my nonsensical gobbledygook posts: When you first character claimed, I noticed that the words "Luthen Rael" were in a slightly brighter font than the other text of your post, which usually indicates text that has been copied and pasted.


I tested to see if it does this if you are merely copying and pasting text from elsewhere on DebateCraft, like from a message (your role PM) to a post. It does not. It seems the text needs to be non-native.

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ISO #80 •••
--> @Lunatic
That was basically my PM almost verbatim lmao.

And bulletproof is ALWAYS passive. I am making that assumption based on every bullet proof I have ever seen in existence. If it was phrased as a 1x self doctor or something I would assume it wasn't passive.


Pie was a 1x Bulletproof in Madoka Magic mafia.


So to be clear, it was not phrased as 1x Bulletproof in your role PM?

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ISO #81 •••

I'm just struggling to understand why you would think something listed as 1x was passive

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ISO #82 •••

And if it was listed as 1x, why Savant would then tell you it was a passive, contrary to his own original role PM

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ISO #83 •••
--> @Wryly
Pie was a 1x Bulletproof in Madoka Magic mafia.

So to be clear, it was not phrased as 1x Bulletproof in your role PM?

It is phrased as a 1x.


I'm just struggling to understand why you would think something listed as 1x was passive

Why would the x shot make it not passive? Like whiteflame has incentive to lynch me here and even he would back me up that this is normal phrasing even for a passive role.


And if it was listed as 1x, why Savant would then tell you it was a passive, contrary to his own original role PM

The disconnect here is that you are assuming that 1x somehow means you have to actively use it, which has NEVER been the case.


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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #84 •••

Bro im retarded. It is passive. I double checked my PM and he initially said i had to lock in in then changed it later to say nvm its passive lmao

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #85 •••
--> @Lunatic
Bro im retarded. It is passive. I double checked my PM and he initially said i had to lock in in then changed it later to say nvm its passive lmao


My pfp is an accurate representation of my current attitude

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ISO #86 •••
--> @Lunatic, @whiteflame
Like whiteflame has incentive to lynch me here and even he would back me up that this is normal phrasing even for a passive role.


I'll tag him and ask then

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ISO #87 •••
--> @Wryly
My pfp is an accurate representation of my current attitude

That doesn't effect the argument however that "bulletproof is generally passive" in fact savant changing it to passive supports that notion even more.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #88 •••
--> @Lunatic

A passive Bulletproof would be ridiculously OP, similar to a passive town Commuter, and the only thing that was making me believe your JOAT was that all your roles were, at least, 1x shots. Now you're expecting me to believe Savant put an unkillable townie in the setup.

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ISO #89 •••

asdfasdf n I must reluctantly

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ISO #90 •••

Ignore, testing stuff

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