DebateCraft Players Mafia - Day 2

Well, you are wrong so.

wya

Why did you want Kohai to claim?

Did you read the first day phase at all? Because pie made it extremely obvious why he wanted kohai to claim.

I specifically want him to answer why he wanted Kohai to claim, it’s not as obvious as you might think

VTL Pie

I think Pie is scum. It’s scummy to try to get Kohai to claim there.

hmm...

I'm fine with lynching within Wryly, Pie, or Shining. I'm also okay (for once) with a mass claim. I will be pretty busy today, so I need a good amount of warning.

So Kohai is an even bigger retard than I originally thought. And lo and behold, there was a Doctor that could’ve been used on him NP1 with the Inventor.

I also received a message from Thoth saying that I got a slice of fruit pie, and that looking closer, there was a handwritten note that told me to get my actions in quicker next time.

Wryly is more likely to be town based on what I did last night.

How convinced are we that that was an accidental hammer. It's unlikely for two scum to coordinate that but honestly I would do it as scum if I thought we could get away with it for WIFOM reasons

There are 2 possibilities:

1) Wryly and Luna are both scum

2) Wryly is the only scum

I get the game started a bit late, but seriously where tf is everyone? I figured this day phase would be poppin after the short one from yesterday.

I know Supa is in Vegas with the huzz based on his Snap story lol

Also a little bit of a wifom town read on Pie, we all know pie wouldn't have taken ten years to submit night actions. 

How do you know it was scum vs town though?

I'd venture to say if pie is a character in this game, he's probably a compulsive visiting modifier or something like that, because thoth has made multiple references to Pie's impatience in the past lol. 

Im 99% sure based on the message I got from Thoth

except when Daddy Pie does it. so alpha.

I’m probably old enough to be your brother so unless we’re both in Alabama….

All right serious shit, I got stuff to report and it's been a long day

I was roleblocked last night

I can verify that I did that.

Something else happened that I will keep to myself for now

Fair enough

I received a Carol. There is at least one scum in ILikePie5, RexFavilla, Shining

Everyone needs to claim. I’ll start off:

Character: Mikal

Role: Odd Night Roleblocker

Justification: I am a dominating player when I am playing mafia to the point where it’s been called bullying. And I use that to my advantage by bullying people out of their lunch money (night actions.)

How did you recieve results if you were roleblocked? Asking thoth about this real quick, maybe since you were given them it works different.

Per MU, this is how it works:

The Caroler may each night visit a person and sing them a carol. The carol will inform the targeted player of 3 names, at least one of which is mafia. However, if the targeted person is visiting someone on that night, they will not hear the carol. The Caroler may not choose the same player on consecutive nights.

I roleblocked Wryly, which means she couldn’t have visited anymore. Whether she is scum is still possible but less likely because she didn’t execute the NK at the very least

1) Wryly and Luna are both scum

tbf I didn't even want to vote kohai remember? You were spam pinging me and I voted directly after that, so we could move on from it.

no. it’s not Kohai’s fault. you don’t run a guy up to L-2 not even 3 hours into game start. THE DAY STARTED WHILE I WAS FUCKING ASLEEP AND I SLEPT THROUGH ALL OF IT.

Why not? Would you rather wait till the last second like we always do? It’s his fault for not claiming. He would’ve been protected that night as well with the Doctor from the inventor

tbf I didn't even want to vote kohai remember? You were spam pinging me and I voted directly after that, so we could move on from it.

Yes, but it’s possible you coordinated like Mikal/WF in Alien. But regardless at that point in time, Wryly was more likely to be scum, so I roleblocked her

I also received a message from Thoth saying that I got a slice of fruit pie, and that looking closer, there was a handwritten note that told me to get my actions in quicker next time.

Is the fruit pie a role or mechanic related thing, or thoths attempt at a joke? The latter wouldn't surprise me.

How do you know it was scum vs town though?

I feel like 90% of the time it's always scum, at least from a modding POV. But I lowkey have also stopped giving slow or indecisive players power roles for that reason so that also might play into it.

Character: Mikal

Role: Odd Night Roleblocker

Justification: I am a dominating player when I am playing mafia to the point where it’s been called bullying. And I use that to my advantage by bullying people out of their lunch money (night actions.)

This claim makes a lot of sense.

Down to lynch Shining. I'm Ultra. I'm an ascetic because I don't post.

VTL Shining.

That's true if somebody will claim they sent that gift it would probably make the. Town and they in fact may be in the results and it could give us confidence in wrylys results to some extent. But then against why would anyone gift wryly that when she hammered Kohai there and we can't easily trust she is being honest even if given a gift the DP is so short several people could have town read her and it would be hard to narrow down who potentially gave her the gift

The Caroler probably needs to claim here and explain themselves.

I roleblocked Wryly, which means she couldn’t have visited anymore. Whether she is scum is still possible but less likely because she didn’t execute the NK at the very least

Still worth being open minded about.

I am vader, the Oracle. Each night I receive a random result about a role that is in the game. Justification is because when Vader get's angry he always somehow is able to call out the entire scum team as if from a supernatural source.

Np1 I received info that there is an innocent child in the game.

Of those three rex is the only one I don't have any sort of read on yet. I townread shining for the claim for mechanic reasons, doesn't make sense as a scum role and its technically verifiable if we wanted to gamble it, which I imagine is a real possibility in this player pool, thus not a good fake claim for shining to make as scum. He also claimed really early and risked a CC which is something I doubt he would do, especially with out easily he could have been CC'ed. Popular is a very common role these days. Pie is more of a wifom based read, but I still feel good about him.

I agree with you. For me it’s likely REF. Waiting for his full claim at this point, and then Wryly should probably claim as well to be thorough. Maybe get the Caroler too

If they're a 1x I agree. If not I'd honestly prefer the Caroler lie to try and get another result off. I honestly don't see Wryly as scum fake accidentally hammering someone and then making up a Caroler that doesn't exist. She seems incredibly neurotic and stressed out about being scum and played it safe when she was TP.

I usually don't suggest these, but this might be one of those rare situations where I could be okay with a mass claim. I can confirm myself at least my role (as long as I claim before the person I can confirm claims), and if that person happens to be in those three that can help sort out the results a bit. Something to chew on. 

Probably agree that it’s game solvable with a mass claim based on what happened last night

Why did you want Kohai to claim?

Did you not read DP1 lol

I specifically want him to answer why he wanted Kohai to claim, it’s not as obvious as you might think

Cause he sucks at fake claiming as scum?

I’m Kohai.

I’m Reroller. Every night I get a new ability from Thoth.

Justification is that I’m bad at fake claiming.