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ISO #181 •••
--> @Shining
Anyway, I am ILikePie. My justification is that many are in awe of me because I dominate town as either alignment, but people also think I am a bit of a knob and that there are big overlap of people who think both about me. 


So what’s your role actually called?

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ISO #182 •••
--> @Lunatic
You know what? I think Rex may be confirmed-ish. 

Remember what thoth said dp1 OP? 

"I mainly picked regulars, but I also included at least one player who would not be considered a regular or to have had much impact on this site's Mafia community."

Ultra is like the only one who matches that desription, and I don't see why he gives the non regular player to scum, but its possible IG.


Thats a good point. It makes it more likely that Wryly is lying about the Carol. Maybe their scum partner bailed on her



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ISO #183 •••
--> @Lunatic
Am I missing something with wryly? She's like 90% scum here isn't she?


Unless a townie is lying. I only see the two scenarios I described earlier. A fake scum Caroler is theoretically possible I guess, but it doesn’t make sense for scum to not just claim that. There could be some weird TP mechanic here as well, but face value, it does seem likely the Wryly is not town

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ISO #184 •••

Jesus Christ.


First of all, why the fuck would I make up a Carol if there's no Caroler? I would make up Dreamer if I was gonna go that route you fucking numbnuts, not that I would go that route at all. If I make up a Carol there's a loose end and I'm insta-lynched when no one claims Caroler. Exhibit A: what's happening right now.


And no, there is no way Thoth put in a mafia Caroler, that's retarded. But a third party Caroler is within the realm of possibility and something Thoth might even do.


The mass claim was a good idea even though it kind of kills the usefulness of my role, but I guess being given the Carol at all already did that.


I'm wylted, as my wylted-esque posts should indicate to you. Due to my trigger-happy playing style, I am the 1x Dirty Bomb. If I'm targeted for the NK I take the scum down with me, but I also kill anyone else they may have visited that night.

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ISO #185 •••

I don’t really believe this. In order to believe that Wryly is scum, I’d have to believe that her scum partner, presumably a player with some experience, would just bail out on her. Has Wryly ever been scum? It’d be a very scummy tactic to pull off, which would on top of everything also be dumb because it would Lynch one scum with 0 benefit. It doesn’t make any sense. I think it’s simpler to just believe the Caroler is either scum or for some reason not claiming (?)

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ISO #186 •••

Okay I actually feel like I went too far with the wylted profanity. I can't handle this level of inhibitionlessness. I'm discontinuing.

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ISO #187 •••

Lunatic’s reaction doesn’t strike me as someone informed of a Caroler, so I don’t think he’s the Caroler. Pie doesn’t look super informed as to the existence of a Caroler either, which makes me think that he might not be scum.


I think Rex is the only one who hasn’t actually weighed in on the Caroler claim?

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ISO #188 •••
--> @Shining
Wryly is already sus because she was both roleblocked and had a carol.


Ask Thoth yourself. Even if you're roleblocked you can still receive things.


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ISO #189 •••
--> @wylted
Role blocking obviously would block her role not some random caroler gift but did somebody claim caroler or is it just a made up thing?

Or is a member of town a complete retard and just not admitting to the carol thing?


No one has claimed Caroler, which means there’s 2 possibilities:


A) There is a scum Caroler and they didn’t claim it for the sole reason of getting Wryly lynched.


B) There is no Caroler and Wryly is lying



Issue with A is that in the long run, it just makes it easier to win as a claimed Caroler. So B imo is more likely, and Wryly just messed up or something

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ISO #190 •••
--> @ILikePie5

There’s another possibility. Caroler is scum and didn’t claim because their fake claim doesn’t match Caroler at all

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ISO #191 •••

Tbh I think it’s probably Rex

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ISO #192 •••

Why are we entertaining the possibility of a scum Caroler?? They would just waive, or give the Carol to their scummate

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ISO #193 •••
--> @Wryly

Because if you’re Town, the only reasonable possibility is that the Caroler is scum and isn’t claiming.


There’s another possibility that the Caroler is Town and lying for some reason, but that reeks of game throwing to me and I don’t buy it

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ISO #194 •••
--> @Magoroth
There’s another possibility. Caroler is scum and didn’t claim because their fake claim doesn’t match Caroler at all


If you’re a scum Caroler, just claim everything you have. It’s easy to believe that. No one would suspect you

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ISO #195 •••
--> @Magoroth

Or the Caroler is a 3P, and we know there is a strong possibility one is in the game


They give me the Carol and then don't claim Caroler to turn up the heat on me. I get mislynched, flip town, and now the Carol POE is confirmed and that also turns up the heat on scum. The Caroler plays both sides against each other and makes it to endgame.

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ISO #196 •••
--> @Wryly
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ISO #197 •••
--> @RexFavilla

also Rex picking up on the Wylted thing immediately and being the first to mention it kinda makes sense if he’s the one who Carolled Wryly lmao


it’s a logical leap but the idea is that you interact with those you had secret interactions with, because they’re on your mind

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ISO #198 •••
--> @wylted
How would you know if you were role blocked if you are a dirty bomb?


The answer to this has to do with that other thing I mentioned in #32

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ISO #199 •••
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ISO #200 •••
--> @Wryly
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ISO #201 •••
--> @Thoth
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ISO #202 •••
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ISO #203 •••
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ISO #204 •••
--> @Wryly

At this point, you need to reveal everything

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ISO #205 •••
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ISO #206 •••
--> @ILikePie5
At this point, you need to reveal everything


Fair enough. Banana gave me an invention last night. I was informed I received it but told I could not use it because I was roleblocked, so it would be saved for NP2 when it normally would have disintegrated if not used NP1. If you decide it's more a benefit to town than to scum for me to tell you which invention it was, I will.

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ISO #207 •••

Tell us everything. Right now, it seems like you shouldn't have had that carol. Also, are you sure it was a carol and not a mafia messenger pulling a fast one?

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ISO #208 •••
--> @Wryly
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ISO #209 •••
--> @Wryly

You can’t use it anyways, so just say it

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ISO #210 •••
--> @Magoroth
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