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Wryly | (2/4) | wylted (199), Lunatic (228)

ILikePie5 | (2/4) | RexFavilla (258), Magoroth (260)

Not voting: Shining, ILikePie5, Wryly

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You need training to have empathy.

Sad

Empathy is gay /wylted

Why are we pretending like there isn't a possibility that a town caroler lied about their claim?

Why would a townie lie about that? It town confirms them, plus it sheds light on Wryly.

I mean if they get one more carol off its pretty much a guaranteed win. If they claim they will 100% be either fucked with or killed. Entertaining the idea of a scum caroler or of a 3p caroler in a 9 player game is retarded.

Whats the reason why a townie would not come clean right now? They’re just causing more chaos. And they clearly TOWNREAD Wryly to give them a Carol. Why would you keep yourself hidden.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, and I would be scum reading the players doing this if they weren't town confirmed. It also makes zero sense for Wryly to make up a carol result. Like this is all painfully obvious? What am I missing? I say just lynch Pie and its a guaranteed town win. We narrow scum in the first carol to me or Shining (or Wryly if she's lying) if Pie somehow flips inno and we hopefully have a second carol to solve the game next DP.

If anyone in the list should be lynched, it’s you. Ascetic is a shitty claim. And the justification is garbage when players like Unsaid exist. JoeBob/Ultra did participate when he could

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VTL PIE

Pie - Mikal - Odd Night Roleblocker

Lunatic - Vader - Oracle

REF - Ultra - Ascetic

Shining - ILikePie5 - Hated/Popular

Wylted - Mharman - Innocent Child

Wryly - Wylted - 1x Dirty Bomb

Magoroth - Kohai - Reroller (NP1=Deflector)

Banana - Lunatic - Inventor (Doctor, Tracker, Neighborizer)

Kohai - Whiteflame - Lie Detector

So the giving of that message has nothing to do with your role? Thoth just said verbatim that it’s Hated/Popular?

The message is something extra Thoth decided to give me for some reason. I apparently can do every night but Popular/Hated seems to be my actual role.

I'm wylted, as my wylted-esque posts should indicate to you. Due to my trigger-happy playing style, I am the 1x Dirty Bomb. If I'm targeted for the NK I take the scum down with me, but I also kill anyone else they may have visited that night

What do you mean by the last portion? Like if scum NKed you and role copped me, You, scum, and I would die?

also Rex picking up on the Wylted thing immediately and being the first to mention it kinda makes sense if he’s the one who Carolled Wryly lmao

it’s a logical leap but the idea is that you interact with those you had secret interactions with, because they’re on your mind

Wym? Cause if you can prove REF is a Caroler, he’s probably TP. And that means that Shining is scum.

Tell us everything. Right now, it seems like you shouldn't have had that carol. Also, are you sure it was a carol and not a mafia messenger pulling a fast one?

Ask just to make sure. But if Wryly asked questions about it and she got answers, it probably isn’t a scum message. Cause that would be bastard

This role could horribly backfire and if you were town you should have claimed this night one. Also even if this was legit you didn’t play it optimally, didn’t hint that you were a power role to try to bait a night kill, what incentive did mafia ever have to try and kill you? Also this role kind of conflicts with the ascetic, that’s two unvisitable roles for mafia to play around definitely a conflict

Math wise, we are at 5-2 or 4-2-1 right now.

Let’s say we mislynch (4-2) and scum NK Wryly (3-2) and get the additional kill (2-2) but scum dies (2-1). It’s LYLO tomorrow. At 4-2-1, we’re probably screwed. Cause mislynch to 3-2-1 to NK is 2-2-1 to additional NK is 1-2-1 to scum death it’s 1-1-1.

That additional kill is killer for us if scum do its at MYLO. It’s basically an insta win for them

Yeah I have a hard time buying that one as well

yeah. that makes sense, what doesn’t make sense is why they wouldn’t just straight up claim 3P? it’s weird.

Cause TP Caroler who is a Survivor doesn’t want to be NKed by scum. They lose on the spot

I don’t think we have a choice but to lynch Wryly here based on the way her role works

Alright so let’s see who CANNOT be the Caroler:

1. Wylted - Confirmed Innocent Child
2. Pie - Roleblocker confirmed
3. Lunatic - Knew about Inno Child
4. Shining - Visited me + Passive
5. Wryly - Given the Carol

That leaves exactly REF and Mago who could be the Caroler. Alternatively, Wryly is scum.

Yeah this is basically the same logic I already pointed out earlier. My brain can’t think of a way this makes sense unless we buy into the third party theory, but I just don’t know why that would be more believable then… wryly just being scum. You’d have to buy into a lot of wifom to think wryly is town here. Idk if she is town I’m gonna feel like a real prick, especially after she didn’t lynch me for wifom in lylo last game. But my brain just can’t wrap my head around the third party thing

Dunno if I agree with that list. Pie could be a scum Roleblocker and Lunatic could be a scum Role Cop or something. Agree on Mago and Rex. Shining I townread, unless Pie is also scum and lying for him about the message. The main thing for me with Pie is that if town does not have a Roleblocker then town had only a 1x Doctor for protection. It's not outside the realm of possibility though.

Dunno if I agree with that list. Pie could be a scum Roleblocker and Lunatic could be a scum Role Cop or something. Agree on Mago and Rex. Shining I townread, unless Pie is also scum and lying for him about the message. The main thing for me with Pie is that if town does not have a Roleblocker then town had only a 1x Doctor for protection. It's not outside the realm of possibility though.

This is WIFOM, but I’m not claiming Roleblocker as scum. Ever

Pie may or may not be scum, but its highly unlikely he is some TP caroler since he spent the night RBing Wryly. Lunatic might be a stretch however.

The problem here is all these custom roles. Dirty Bomb. Reroller. Weird fruit vendor hybrid

Its true that outing wryly's role opens a can of worms. Worse, if scum have two active roles and an NK they could take out three players. I town read her even more now but it might be necessary to lynch her today.

The way Wryly described her role, procedurally, we are forced to lynch her. Only way we get out of it is if we lynch scum. Otherwise, a mislynch on a townie is an autoloss

Damn wryly I would have just lied and said I was the bomb in your shoes.

How does your ascetic work?

Standard way. Causes non-fatal actions targeting me to fail.

I'm immune to things that wouldn't kill me, to put it more accurate to the description of the role.

Thank you

We're ordering pizza and watching Good Fortune or Good Luck Have Fun Don't Die, haven't decided which.

Do me a favor and don't lynch me until I get back. If my lynch is a foregone conclusion you might as well take your time and wring the DP for all the behavioral data it's worth anyway.

Assuming Wryly flips town. Wylted is certainly the NK. That leaves:

Pie

Luna

Mago

REF

Shining

Theoretically there should be another Carol, so that helps. Luna will get a role revealed, so that gives more info. Mago will have another role.