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ISO #241 •••
--> @Lunatic

Fair enough

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ISO #242 •••

If I was going by pure vibes at this point which are likely to be wrong BUT if I was, I would say Pie/Lunatic/Alyssa/Vader are probably Town. This is a 9p so there’s probably 2 scum, along with possibly a neutral (although that feels a little strong with 2 scum unless Town is seriously loaded, but I doubt Mikal would approve such a setup… could be wrong but let’s roll with it)


so in conclusion, likely 7v2. With 5 Town between me and the aforementioned, that leaves a supposedly game winning PoE (?) of Thoth/Wylted/Shining/Rex

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ISO #243 •••

Pie could be trying this strat as scum since he did it last game and he was Town. My reasoning is that Pie is usually good at appearing Townie as scum, and I don’t think most people in this game would scumread him for it. Does anyone agree with this take or am I being retarded?


I still townread Pie for the record, just trying to come up with potential scum in that town pool since I would be a little surprised if I was 100% correct about a PoE this early ok.

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ISO #244 •••

Early on*

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ISO #245 •••
--> @RexFavilla

What makes you think that as scum I try to do what I think I would do as Town?


Actually, sorry, that question was poorly phrased. What I meant was, where have you seen me not just attempt but actually succeed in acting like I normally do as Town? I’m unsure if that is what you are saying but you certainly seem to be implying it

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ISO #246 •••

For what it’s worth, not really game related but now that I’m Town, Pie’s strategy makes sense, even if it’s annoying when you’re on the receiving end.


I used to do this when playing the StarCraft II Mafia map/mod. It’s basically exactly like Town of Salem with some role differences and far less cartoonish graphics. It’s very annoying when it’s done to you but it’s also a nice way of pressuring ppl and getting scum to react.


VTL RexFavilla


I do think Wylted could potentially be scum. He plays slightly differently from how I’m used to him playing, and the early unprompted claim when people are getting run up to claim is kinda scummy. A bit less so since it’s coming from him, but I find the Miller claim a little convenient, it would be hard for him to justify an unprompted claim otherwise. Plus, how often is this man a Miller? Jeez…


Anyway, I want Rex to claim next.

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ISO #247 •••
--> @Magoroth

We have four claims. You really want to push for more right now?

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #248 •••
--> @Lunatic

We could go for character claims now then full claims tomorrow.

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ISO #249 •••
--> @Magoroth

Do you know enough about the theme to do anything with the character claim?

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #250 •••
--> @Lunatic

I don’t. I guess pursuing more claims is a bad idea.


VTL Wylted

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ISO #251 •••
--> @Magoroth
If you want an incentive to fall asleep:
VTL Alyssa
I will unvote if you get a full 8 hours :)


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ISO #252 •••
--> @Lunatic
Do you know enough about the theme to do anything with the character claim?


What I'm about to say is not intended to be taken as support for getting more claims today. I do not support it.


Buuuuut we really ought to start thinking about doing theme analysis. The OP seems to imply that the Town/Scum split is, likely, not super complicated. A cursory reading of an IMDB page could be enough for us to start narrowing POE down just by character claims.

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ISO #253 •••
--> @Alyssa
What I'm about to say is not intended to be taken as support for getting more claims today. I do not support it.

Buuuuut we really ought to start thinking about doing theme analysis. The OP seems to imply that the Town/Scum split is, likely, not super complicated. A cursory reading of an IMDB page could be enough for us to start narrowing POE down just by character claims.

I'll stop being lazy and do some theme research. Maybe if I am committed enough watch an episode or two. But I mostly want to analyze characters of people who have claimed so far.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #254 •••
--> @Lunatic
But I mostly want to analyze characters of people who have claimed so far.


Bet

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ISO #255 •••
--> @Lunatic

Minor nitpick but couldn’t that possibly result in you tunnelling? You don’t know all of the character(s)/(claims), and one of the characters claimed may be kinda scummy or slightly different from the other claimed ones, which could result in one pkayer being excessively pushed.


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ISO #256 •••
--> @Lunatic

I notice you answered Alyssa’s question to Pie for him, “why do you think Supa would be raging”, is it because you’re Scum and you know Pie is Town and are pocketing him?? :P

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ISO #257 •••

my questions aren’t scumreads btw, just questions. Minor nitpicks to see what you answer


I have a bunch of other questions, mostly for Rex and Pie, but will have to wait for them to get here

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ISO #258 •••
--> @Magoroth
Minor nitpick but couldn’t that possibly result in you tunnelling? You don’t know all of the character(s)/(claims), and one of the characters claimed may be kinda scummy or slightly different from the other claimed ones, which could result in one pkayer being excessively pushed.


You have to take everything into context, not just a character claim, but behavior, role justification, the mod, etc. Analyzing character claims is helpful but not an end all be all strategy. Last game for example I called out your claim for not making sense and standing out from other claims. I didn't immediately vote you and advocate for your lynch however (though I likely would have after your constant defense of wryly before she flipped scum, but pies result kind of made it obvious at that point anyway). I won't tunnel someone based on a claim alone, especially in a theme I am not familiar with.


I notice you answered Alyssa’s question to Pie for him, “why do you think Supa would be raging”, is it because you’re Scum and you know Pie is Town and are pocketing him?? :P


I don't "know pie is town" I don't know how you got any of that from me telling alyssa what supas meta is.


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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #259 •••
--> @Vader
Your logic literally falls apart in 50% of scenarios if you hit a PR but sure lol


No, because scum don’t know if there’s a Watcher, Doctor, etc that could be on you.

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ISO #260 •••
--> @Thoth
I'm Dennis Whitaker


Why are you claiming? And are you really a Perma-Commuter?

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ISO #261 •••
--> @wylted
I guess I should claim because you guys act like bitches sometimes when I wait too long. I am miller


Character and justification? And don’t leave anything out

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ISO #262 •••

Just watched the first episode. I believe every single character that has been claimed so far has made an appearance, and its only been a single episode, but the justifications are matching up. I don't really get wylteds langdon justification though, but maybe that is something that happens later on in the show? He doesn't seem to have issues getting along with anyone. And supas character seems very minor, but it kind of makes sense, since it is the security guard.


On a side note, this show was bringing back memories of when I was a guard at a hospital. Every day was a shit show just like in this show lol.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #263 •••
--> @ILikePie5
Why are you claiming? And are you really a Perma-Commuter?

You voted him for a claim lol. Also I think the commuter thing was a joke based on banana not hitting the shift key, but maybe I am wrong.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #264 •••
--> @Lunatic
Could be wrong but it felt like an echo from Ruyi Zhan, a poorly thought out bait to get people to lynch him. I noticed it right away lol. Because his claim made too little sense. His claim was bad in the last game as scum he played but it was a bit more well thought out than this. Plus claiming VT early as scum is kind of wild. Anyways I just don't see the scum motivation here.


Agree with this

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ISO #265 •••
--> @wylted

Is your entire justification for miller that you don't get along with others? Because thats lowkey sus.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #266 •••

Claims list


Mago- Melissa King- Vanilla Townie (Post 51, 80 dp1)

Vader- Ahmad Zhidan- Cop- (Post 121, 152 dp1)

Thoth- Dennis Whitaker (Post 143, dp1)

Wylted- Dr. Frank Langdon- Miller (Post 153, 182 dp1)



Unclaimed


Lunatic

Pie

Alyssa

Shining

Rex


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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #267 •••
--> @Lunatic

Assuming a Miller really is in the game we could verify Wylted’s claim by checking if any of the other characters make sense with a Miller. Mharman first made a setup then Banana tweaked a bit to fit the characters. My guess is she prioritized the roles being balanced and probably didn’t change the setup very much, so Wylted getting a weird justification could make sense.

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ISO #268 •••
--> @Banana
I am sorry I will try harder to post better, most of the time im on my phone and I dont have auto correct on for personal reasons, so it usually takes longer effort to make my posts look nice. I promise im not a dumb dumb.


Is this like culture among Gen-Z women? My gf does the same thing

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ISO #269 •••
--> @Shining
As funny as it is to imagine Banana screaming slurs at people on Twitter, I rather we policy Magoroth today. Also I am not in a good mood today.


Any other thoughts? Facts don’t care about your feelings

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ISO #270 •••
--> @Lunatic
I am pressuring wylted because he claimed miller after the cop, and didn't claim it in his first post. It's not OGI if I am dubious of his excuse. But I digress. 


You know I hate millers lol. My issue is if they did use a fake claim on asking about Miller, why not just claim it first post? That’s the safer thing to do. And you and I both know that if Wylted is doing this, his partner did it for him basically

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