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ISO #271 •••
--> @Lunatic
I mean it isn't completely out of character for wylted so I am taking that into consideration. But unless we pursue more claims here, and I don't think we should with 4 on the board, the alternative is mago, who I am town reading atm. 


I don’t think we should lynch Mago as well. He’s likely town. At the worst bluffing and TP. Wylted is risky, but the other way the odds of having a miller go up is if scum flip godfather or have a lawyer or something.


I agree with you on REF. He just seems off. Sorta all over the place. Going to have to go read up on his previous scum game

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ISO #272 •••
--> @Magoroth
Assuming a Miller really is in the game we could verify Wylted’s claim by checking if any of the other characters make sense with a Miller. Mharman first made a setup then Banana tweaked a bit to fit the characters. My guess is she prioritized the roles being balanced and probably didn’t change the setup very much, so Wylted getting a weird justification could make sense.

Well theres a cop so autimatically it "makes sense". My main issue is that it was claimed after the cop. But I guess that could just genuinely be because wylted was late to the party, or it could be an opportunistic gambit for town cred, since miller is fairly common role around here.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #273 •••
--> @Lunatic
You voted him for a claim lol. Also I think the commuter thing was a joke based on banana not hitting the shift key, but maybe I am wrong.


I thought he was trolling lol. You never know with him, which is why you gotta double check

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ISO #274 •••
--> @ILikePie5
You know I hate millers lol. My issue is if they did use a fake claim on asking about Miller, why not just claim it first post? That’s the safer thing to do. And you and I both know that if Wylted is doing this, his partner did it for him basically

If I am reading the OP correctly, the mafia team get to choose between a full claim, 2 mod given roles, or 2 mod given characters, meaning I don't think they got to "ask" questions. If miller is fake though it was a mod provided fake claim from the full claim, or from one of the two role claims. Also I agree wylted should have said it in his first post. Only thing giving me pause is that this just happened with him as a town miller in ruyi zhuan, and he also didn't claim it in his first post if I remember correctly. Though circumstances were slightly different there with the mechanics.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #275 •••

Pie, Vader, Mago

Luna


Alyssa, Shining, Thoth, Wylted


REF

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ISO #276 •••
--> @Lunatic
If I am reading the OP correctly, the mafia team get to choose between a full claim, 2 mod given roles, or 2 mod given characters, meaning I don't think they got to "ask" questions. If miller is fake though it was a mod provided fake claim from the full claim, or from one of the two role claims. Also I agree wylted should have said it in his first post. Only thing giving me pause is that this just happened with him as a town miller in ruyi zhuan, and he also didn't claim it in his first post if I remember correctly. Though circumstances were slightly different there with the mechanics.


I mean if Miller was given as a fake claim, that’s just brutal, which is why I agree that it should be policy lynched.

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ISO #277 •••
--> @ILikePie5
I don’t think we should lynch Mago as well. He’s likely town. At the worst bluffing and TP. Wylted is risky, but the other way the odds of having a miller go up is if scum flip godfather or have a lawyer or something.

I agree with you on REF. He just seems off. Sorta all over the place. Going to have to go read up on his previous scum game

Yeah if we decide not to pursue any more claims here. I would be down to settle between rex or wylted here.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #278 •••
--> @ILikePie5
I mean if Miller was given as a fake claim, that’s just brutal, which is why I agree that it should be policy lynched.

The problem is that its kind of an over used role here, so much that it is almost always believed. The odd game or two is missing one. But it makes it complicated to just straight up lynch millers. Also if we start policy lynching millers, its kind of unfair to them and makes it unfun. I am down to policy lynch stubborn behavior in claiming all day. But if we are to lynch wylted here I don't want it to be because of policy lol

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #279 •••
--> @ILikePie5

Is that a list from town to scum? The thing you posted

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ISO #280 •••
--> @Magoroth

Nulls aren’t in order, but yes

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ISO #281 •••
--> @Lunatic

but my point is that if theres a character that fits Miller better why wouldnt banana make them the Miller instead of a guy that doesnt make as much sense? Guy who doesnt get along with ppl (who sounds more like a Hated than a Miller though it could make SOME sense as a Miller justification)

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ISO #282 •••
--> @ILikePie5, @RexFavilla, @wylted

Anyways Rex needs to post more. Why is the Miller claim a policy lynch btw? Genuine question.


Wylted, do you stand by your Miller claim?




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ISO #283 •••

In the absence of solid scumreads I’d rather go for Shining who has posted only once or twice than a Miller.

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ISO #284 •••
--> @Magoroth
but my point is that if theres a character that fits Miller better why wouldnt banana make them the Miller instead of a guy that doesnt make as much sense? Guy who doesnt get along with ppl (who sounds more like a Hated than a Miller though it could make SOME sense as a Miller justification)

My character seems to have a decent justification for their role, so I am expecting others will too.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #285 •••
--> @Magoroth
Anyways Rex needs to post more. Why is the Miller claim a policy lynch btw? Genuine question.

Wylted, do you stand by your Miller claim?


Pie has been advocating a policy lynch on millers for years. I don't think anyone has ever supported that idea or practiced it, so it's really kind of a moot point.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #286 •••
--> @Lunatic

Ah okay, that makes sense. I don’t see why a Miller claim calls for a policy lynch. I could see other roles calling for a policy lynch, or some other Miller that only claimed sfter a Cop found them scum.

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ISO #287 •••
--> @Lunatic

No I understand your point, was just offering a suggestion. Tbh I mostly wanted to look for things to ask you questions about rather than having some issues with what you were saying, that’s why the questions were kinda ass.

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ISO #288 •••

Wrt the “character analysis” question I asked you about

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ISO #289 •••
--> @Shining, @Thoth

We do need to hear from shining. But I would also like thoughts from Thoth, he posted that he would be catching up but didn’t say a whole lot of anything meangful and kind of has only made a few of his dad jokes. I need something from him to read him off of.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #290 •••

Only thing I’ll say is that Lunatic keeps covering for Pie and answering questions I addressed to him for Pie.

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ISO #291 •••
--> @Lunatic

Yeah, Thoth and Shining both need to post more. Down to lynch either of them if they’re not forthcoming. Especially Shining.


VTL Shining

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ISO #292 •••
--> @Magoroth

I’m online, active, and addicted to the game. Pie can answer for himself sure I’m just a neurotic poster.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #293 •••
--> @Lunatic

Fair enough, I do the same thing and I’m also addicted to the game (lmao). Just thought it was slightly strange you answered mostly for Pie and not other players

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ISO #294 •••
--> @Magoroth
Anyways Rex needs to post more. Why is the Miller claim a policy lynch btw? Genuine question.


Because you never know if it’s a fake claim or not. Even with the existence of a Cop, it’s possible town never had a miller to begin with. It becomes an issue cause scum are never gonna kill the Miller cause they have bigger targets, and there’s no role confirmation. Behavior is possible, and we’ve used it before, but it’s not always perfect. So my policy is that Millers are de facto lynches unless there’s a better option

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ISO #295 •••
--> @ILikePie5

Why do you think we should lynch the Miller claim and not an inactive btw?

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ISO #296 •••

Oh you just answered it my bad

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ISO #297 •••
--> @Lunatic
I’m online, active, and addicted to the game. Pie can answer for himself sure I’m just a neurotic poster.


+1

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ISO #298 •••
--> @Magoroth
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ISO #299 •••
--> @Lunatic
My character seems to have a decent justification for their role, so I am expecting others will too. 


I do as well

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ISO #300 •••
--> @ILikePie5

Ahhh okay that makes sense, thanks. Hadn’t thought of Millers making it to the end game.


Would still prefer an inactive lynch today to drive activity, but I guess the Miller policy lynch makes sense. Although it could be a bad idea if the Miller is townie.

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