Solo Leveling - Day phase 3

cant we lynch shining? i dont feel good about helz

He’s very obviously bluffing. If he didn’t have a self protective ability, he would’ve used that first to potentially protect Luna/Wylted.

Remember how Thoth proclaimed his innocence even after being lynched. He’s never done that before. Ever. The continuation screams a higher level of thinking that only a couple of people have. Alyssa shutting up after self voting?

Magicman being poisoned? It’s all a story, and he hasn’t said anything to disprove it

Link me to the guide you created again? I want to see something

Welp it’s not Denny Hamlin’s race today guys. Dang it

Ring ring hello?

1. Hold up are you a protective or investigative role? I’m confused as this blatantly contradicts your tracker claim

2. There’s an advantage to stay hidden but not if you can clear yourself right before being lynched and costing town a valuable PR.

Side rant: I’ve seen so many town PRs in open setups that got lynched because they didn’t claim and many times town went on to lose

1- Both. My role is that I ask my daddy for items one night and I can use them after. One of the items is a tracker that also tells me if the persons action succeeded or not. The other is an item that does some form of protection thing that I do not want to clarify more. And honestly did not even want it known that I had that for very obvious reasons.

2- Duno what you are talking about with me clearing myself. I have had 1 action this game so far and it was to ask for an item and I asked for the tracking one. There is nothing about my role that confirms myself in any way. Which is why I keep brining up my role claim is not even AI in any way and its silly to kill me over the details.

He’s very obviously bluffing. If he didn’t have a self protective ability, he would’ve used that first to potentially protect Luna/Wylted.

You do realize it takes me one turn to request the item and another to use it. I have been rather clear about that. It would be absolutely impossible for me to have protected Luna given my guild recruited Wryly N1 and I was role blocked.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45881-Helz-guide-to-improving-as-a-player-Part-2-Fundamentals-of-Scum-Hunting

It was a rough draft. Had intentions of tieing in examples from MU champ games of hard slips. Kinda abandoned that thought at some point.

You do realize it takes me one turn to request the item and another to use it. I have been rather clear about that. It would be absolutely impossible for me to have protected Luna given my guild recruited Wryly N1 and I was role blocked.

You could’ve protected Wylted though. Also, still waiting on that link

Ignore link part ^

But yes, I asked to leave and got effectively told I could leave chat. I voiced that I now see my guild leader (Wryly) as potentially scum and would like to separate if possible but all I could do is leave chat. Which is pointless. Even as we disagree and fight about the mafia stuff we have been super respectful to etchother and there is no advantage to me having less information.

But yeah. Lol. I did just try to leave the guild over Wryly revealing my protective function to the town then voting me. That just screams scum to me.

I implored you to tell me your full claim and said that I wouldn't reveal it to town if I agreed it was too sensitive, that I would be fully in your corner if I could be convinced you were town. You obstinately refused to understand why you were under suspicion, why you should full claim, why I thought our guild had a leak, why I am likely town, why it made no sense for you to withhold info about your protective role when you were likely going to be lynched anyway, why it made no sense for you to be willing to claim to Lunatic but unwilling to claim to me when Rex would have seen your claim in both cases regardless.

At that point, I could only conclude you were cornered and OMGUSing scum, and there was no reason to hold any information I had back from town.

Helz.

with all due respect I’m not buying your claim nor am I buying your ATE

What is ATE, sensei

I literally could not have.

I was role blocked being in a guild as my guild recruited. The only action I could take N2 was to ask daddy for 1 of 2 items. I had no ability to protect anyone that night.

Link doesn’t work for me

Appeal to Emotion.

Not sure they are using the term quite right but thats what they are getting at.

I literally could not have.

I was role blocked being in a guild as my guild recruited. The only action I could take N2 was to ask daddy for 1 of 2 items. I had no ability to protect anyone that night.

Why couldn’t you have protected Wylted NP3?

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45881-Helz-guide-to-improving-as-a-player-Part-2-Fundamentals-of-Scum-Hunting

Just punched it in my browser and this exact copy paste works

......Because that has not happened yet and Lunatic was killed NP2?

I mean, if I had a role that could retroactively reach into the past and change mech I would not be saying I felt my role was rather weak.

I mean, if I had a role that could retroactively reach into the past and change mech I would not be saying I felt my role was rather weak.

......Because that has not happened yet and Lunatic was killed NP2?

What? You knew that you would be able to use the protective roles NP3. Both Wylted and Luna can’t die NP2

lets lynch shining.

At this point I kinda think you are scum. You have 2 checks that are both pretty much confirmed wrong. One of which was before you were in the guild declaring a green check on a mafia and a second declaring a red check on what seems to be a confirmed town.

You refuse to even bother digging through the guild chat to vet me or to ask me questions to vet me. The only thing you want is hard information on what type of protective I am and you decided to out that to the entire town against my wishes.

I do not trust you now. If those factors were not bad enough you then follow up voting me why? Because I did not clarify exactly how my protect function works? Nah. Thats just scummy. I see no town motivation for this and I do not think there is a leak. I think we just have a scum fake claimed alignment cop that tried to clear a fellow mafia then tried to give a false red check.

What? You knew that you would be able to use the protective roles NP3. Both Wylted and Luna can’t die NP2

Im really confused right now by what you are saying.

So we are in Day Phase 3. Night Phase 3 has not happened. Lunatic died on Night Phase 2.

My role takes 2 days to do something. So Night Phase 1 I was role blocked. Night Phase 2 I requested an item. I had no possibility to use an item Night Phase 2. Both my protective and my tracker functions are from items. I ask daddy to buy me things and then when he gives them to me I can use them. The first time I will be able to do a real function and get info or impact the game will be Night Phase 3 which has not happened yet. I had no ability to do anything Night Phase 2 (the night Lunatic died) other than to ask for an item I could use Night Phase 3.

When I say I was role blocked- By that I mean my guild recruited so I could take no action (To include asking daddy for an item, I did try)

What’s there to be confused about. You agree that by NP3 you would’ve had a protective ability. You couldn’t have known Wylted was gonna be dead. So logically you could’ve useed it on him NP3

https://youtu.be/RYonSOkZ5ZE

Yeah, and Helz also chose an investigative item over a protective item with a cop in his guild and despite saying he doesn't want to win by catching scum with a PR.

Wait nvm. We still most likely do but not what I was thinking of

oh that’s a good point

Dude. Night phase 3 has not even happened yet. We are in Day phase 3. You are confused.

There has not been a night phase 3 yet. That happens after this day phase ends.