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ISO #421 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Can you explain Rogue Ty'iga's win condition?

What does temporary mean in this context, IE how long does Tyiga possess the account before it returns to the orginal user?

If my understanding of this role is correct, the only way this person can lose is if the person who killed them or hammered them's team wins is this right?

If this is correct I see no reason why Tyiga would even need to blend in at all.


So basically:


  1. Rogue Ty’iga possess a player for one day only. Possession ends at the end of the day.
  2. Correct, but they can also lose if they never die.

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ISO #422 •••
--> @Magoroth

Thankyou.

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ISO #423 •••

If Rogue Tyiga exists there is almost no reason whoever it is wouldn't just come out and admit they took over a persons account, they could just try to publicly win with town. Kind of doesn't make sense to scum side as this role because the original owner would just come back and say they were the Tyiga target the next dp. The most damage they could do to side with scum is try to get themselves lynched. Which would be a challenging prospect considering we are already aware of potential jester-esque roles, so any play towards self identifying as a scum slip just will look obvious.

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ISO #424 •••

Where do you feel we should focus?

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ISO #425 •••
--> @A-Llewella
Where do you feel we should focus?

Inactives. It's hard to move forward in the game a considerable amount when there is 2 players who've yet to even post, one of which I know is capable of feigning inactivity due to their usually busy life so they can lurk dp1 which they notoriously have said they don't like. This player has used this strategy in games I have been scum with them in the past, so while it's an option they could be doing that, I think we need to press them to post reads and thoughts.


In the meantime, reads and thoughts from just about everyone would prove useful here in further progressing the day phase in a formidable direction. I am pressing Brand on things I want answers to, and have addressed some issues I have with Flora's tactics that could aid the scum team. At the moment the only other direction we have been presented with is to explore a lynch between the only two claims on the table, which I am not entirely comfortable with prima facie.


So any reads on players you have could prove useful for further scum hunting endeavors. Unfortunately this time there is no mason PM to get a glance at the inner mechanisms of your brain, so I have nothing to read you off of, other than you seem to be admittedly putting the town team at a disadvantage for some loose concept of personal growth. What do you think you have done that should make me reconsider this read on you? Have I missed something significant about your behavior that should prove to me that you are town?

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ISO #426 •••

“None of this discussion, this speculation, would be necessary,” Corwin said, “if we had all of the facts right now. And there may be a way to get them—right now. That is why you are here.” That did it. I had them. Attentive. Ready. Maybe even willing.


“I propose we attempt to reach Brand and bring him home,” Corwin said, “now.”


“How?” Benedict asked.


“The Trumps.”


“It has been tried,” said Julian. “He cannot be reached that way. No response.”


“I was not referring to the ordinary usage.” Corwin said. “I asked you all to bring full sets of Trumps with you. I trust that you have them?”


There were nods.


“Good,” Corwin said. “Let us shuffle out Brand’s Trump now. I propose that all nine of us attempt to contact him simultaneously.”


“An interesting thought,” Benedict said.


“Yes,” Julian agreed, producing his deck and riffling through it. “Worth trying, at least. It may generate additional power. I do not really know.”


Corwin located Brand’s Trump. He waited until all the others had found it. Then, “Let us coordinate things,” Corwin said. “Is everyone ready?”


Eight accents were spoken.


A sort of cheer had gone up as we rushed to touch him, to see him, our brother who had been gone these many years and just now snatched back from his mysterious captors. And at last, hopefully, finally, some answers might also been liberated. Only he looked so weak, so thin, so pale…


“Get back!” Gérard shouted. “I’m taking him to the couch! Then you can look all you—”


Dead silence. For everyone had backed off, and then turned to stone. This was because there was blood on Brand, and it was dripping. And this was because there was a knife in his left side, to the rear. It had not been there moments before. Some one of us had just tried for his kidney and possibly succeeded. I was not heartened by the fact that the Random-Corwin Conjecture that it was One Of Us Behind It All had just received a significant boost.

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ISO #427 •••
--> @A-Gerard
So any reads on players you have could prove useful for further scum hunting endeavors. Unfortunately this time there is no mason PM to get a glance at the inner mechanisms of your brain, so I have nothing to read you off of, other than you seem to be admittedly putting the town team at a disadvantage for some loose concept of personal growth. What do you think you have done that should make me reconsider this read on you? Have I missed something significant about your behavior that should prove to me that you are town?

Absolutely nothing. But you saw those inner workings and you know me at 50% is still some very real shit. As to if I am town you will never fully trust me. You know better than that. But why would I shove the mech I just did in our recent interaction if I was not? Why would I outline how to trap scum in pools or even explain how they work to begin with as scum? At best put me at 3p again with just that thought.

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ISO #428 •••

Wait.. was that a day vig?


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ISO #429 •••
--> @A-Llewella


A-Llewella wrote:
Wait.. was that a day vig?

Just lore.

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ISO #430 •••
--> @A-Llewella
Absolutely nothing. But you saw those inner workings and you know me at 50% is still some very real shit. As to if I am town you will never fully trust me. You know better than that. But why would I shove the mech I just did in our recent interaction if I was not? Why would I outline how to trap scum in pools or even explain how they work to begin with as scum? At best put me at 3p again with just that thought.

The only real mech argument in your favor is the one about how everyone should use cryptography to deny the disguised, as that basically nullifies the utility of that role. However if you were scum and knew that the role didn’t exist, all this does it make you look good for pointing it out.


I have now asked you for reads and thoughts on other players quite a few times, and each time you appear to have avoided answering me. Is there a good reason for this? Are you simply undecided? If you are a town player and working towards fulfilling your wincon, which direction do you think is the best one to accomplish an effective day phase?


So far your comments seem to be more reserved as if your waiting to see where the crowd goes before taking any hard stances.

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ISO #431 •••

Also I don’t exactly know that I would call this 50% of what you displayed last game. I’d venture to say this is more around 15% of what you showed last game lol

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ISO #432 •••

Yeah, You also got like another 2k posts of me talking about what I was doing and why.


This one there is also a last will mechanic where I can put my thoughts into a post that will be revealed to town.


All that and I dont trust you. At every turn you are casting shade. I really want to trust you but your only turning moment was realizing who I was and not what my alignment was.

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ISO #433 •••
--> @A-Llewella
Yeah, You also got like another 2k posts of me talking about what I was doing and why.

In a completely separate game... Yeah. I mean that was a unique situation where you could play a little more loosely (until I died that is) publicly based on having me able to vouch for you in a mason thread.


This one there is also a last will mechanic where I can put my thoughts into a post that will be revealed to town.

There are three scum roles that could potentially fuck up your last will however. Traitor, Illusionist, and Disguiser. It seems the coroner (if one even exists) doesn't reveal your last will just tells people it was tampered with. So your strategy is to bank the majority of your contribution towards helping town to a mechanic that could likely be interfered with? Forgive me for not understanding this strategy at all. And feel free to correct me if I am wrong about any of this information.


All that and I dont trust you.


Well the great thing is that you don't have to provide reads and thoughts for me. Do it for the town's collective benefit. I happen to be the one asking you because I happen to be on at the moment, but I guarantee you others will be seeking similar information from you.


At every turn you are casting shade.

Casting shade? When and where? I feel like I've been pretty professional in my interactions with you. Does me not immediately town reading you somehow indicate that I am casting shade on you, in your mind?


I really want to trust you but your only turning moment was realizing who I was and not what my alignment was.

Well to be fair you haven't given me anything to realize what your alignment was. And when I directly asked you why I should town read you, you basically said I have no reason to and that I should consider you as if you are third party. Factoring that in with the fact that you are admitedly playing a meta game inside this one where you challenge yourself at the cost of helping your alleged team, what are you giving me to work with here?


I would love for you to be town. But you also seeded a lot of doubt in the mason PM from the previous game when you consistently tried to tell me how well you are at playing as scum, and how easily you can put on the townie act. And not being able to identify town behaviors I picked up on in the last game because of an intentional gambit you are pulling further makes just blindly trusting you hard to do.


All this to say this isn't me scum reading you, this is me begging you to give me something, anything to work with so I can town read you lol


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ISO #434 •••

To clarify the part about the corner I meant in relation to the disguised only, as it just tells you a will was tampered with not what the will is itself. I understand the corner could theoretically assists against the other two I mentioned. Assuming again that coroner exits. Which I think is likely it does.

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ISO #435 •••

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.


A-Llewella (2/7): A-Brand (p#6), A-Oberon (p#273)

A-Brand (2/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232)

A-Martin (1/7): A-Flora (p#199)

A-Flora (1/7): A-Caine (p#290)

A-Fiona (1/7): A-Gerard (p#334)


Not Voting (5): A-Deirdre, A-Fiona, A-Julian, A-Llewella (p#418), A-Martin (p#171)


With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 8 hours.

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ISO #436 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Can we get some reads when you wake up? I know its still early in the game, so if you don't have a ton of fleshed out ones that's fine, but as one of the stronger players it would be ideal in helping us crack down a lynch today.


I actually did post a few reads before I went to bed last night in #313, but I can see I'm now behind by a few pages. Once I get a break at work, I'll catch up and expand on them.

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ISO #437 •••
--> @A-Deirdre

No I read that one, it was talking about a few relevant things that have occurred but I was hoping for something a little more fleshed out on all the players who have posted, and maybe some sort of general idea of what yours thoughts are for how we should pursue the day phase, is there anyone in particular you want to lynch, and why, etc. But yeah catch up. Take your time. Most of the last few pages are just my neurotic over night posting so it shouldn’t take too long.

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ISO #438 •••

Have no fear I’m here

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ISO #439 •••

What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow

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ISO #440 •••

I’m reading the day phase to catch up. The anonymous stuff is gonna really throw me a loop considering I like behavior analysis

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ISO #441 •••
--> @A-Julian


A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow

Welcome to the future!

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ISO #442 •••
--> @A-Caine


A-Caine wrote:

A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!


The quoting feature is really nice. This is going to make mafia 10x easier

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ISO #443 •••
--> @A-Julian


A-Julian wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!

The quoting feature is really nice. This is going to make mafia 10x easier


It really will. I’m going to improve upon the quoting feature tonight.

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ISO #444 •••
--> @A-Caine


A-Caine wrote:

A-Julian wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!

The quoting feature is really nice. This is going to make mafia 10x easier

It really will. I’m going to improve upon the quoting feature tonight.

Suggestion to have double stack forum quoting. Maybe it exists and it’s just cuz I’m on mobile

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ISO #445 •••
--> @A-Julian


A-Julian wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Julian wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!

The quoting feature is really nice. This is going to make mafia 10x easier

It really will. I’m going to improve upon the quoting feature tonight.
Suggestion to have double stack forum quoting. Maybe it exists and it’s just cuz I’m on mobile


Yeah. That’s the exact thing I’ll be working on tonight.

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ISO #446 •••

Some of y'all are not making it very hard to guess who you are. Cmon Baird…you could have at least tried to be a bit more anonymous

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ISO #447 •••

I don’t know how meta gaming this is, but I know if I see two people with the same style of writing, I am immediately putting both in my FoS

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ISO #448 •••

Something irks me about Gerard. It just feels like they are overposting a lot more than they need to be posting at this rate. I also think there targeting of Bleys for the PM thing is stupid and feels like scum pushing for some action and I don’t love it.

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ISO #449 •••

Meh I might be overthinking it

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ISO #450 •••

My FoS is on Flora & Random. I don’t think that they’ve been contributing as much to the game, which irks me as a playstyle of one person who doesn’t tend to make long winded paragraphs. Everyone else tends to make long reads with rapid response. Not saying 1 in impersonating another but not ruling it out

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