Amber Mafia

A-Random wrote:

Who all has claimed vanilla?

Me, Martin, Caine

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A-Brand (4/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Flora (p#868), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)

A-Flora (4/7): A-Caine (p#843), A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#646), A-Martin (p#774)

A-Llewella (1/7): A-Brand (p#6)

A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

Not Voting (2): A-Deirdre (p#838), A-Fiona

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 5 hours.

Think its Caine [think they are town]

Marin or flora

Initial paring in my head is brand flora or brand Martin

Julian i can never read because he always goes afk and comes back and does super dumb things.

Diedre is following their meta

And helz being mad at angle shooting makes sense

Torn with Gerald. Could be scum or town but he activity probed me so that reads as town to me. Not to mention locking characters to who they are as I mentioned. Serves no benefit to scum

Gerald town

Caine town

Deidre gut read is town and I usually am the one that always catches him as scum

That leaves imo a good chance a scum is between flora and martin

And brand just seems bad all around

The rest are mostly null

Want to shoot one of those 3 but need to evaluate the motivation for the replacement. I think is AI over NAI. Dont buy it being sick or tired. Question is if frustration is town sided or not

What’s your basis of scumread on me?

Poe. Dont buy the 3 vanilla claims.

A-Random wrote:

Poe. Dont buy the 3 vanilla claims.

Something I’ve been saying THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME

This is just hilarious lmaoooo

To be fair i said it could be you or Martin. I just dont think its caine.

Gonna say anything to Random lol. I bet you won’t cause you didn’t saying anything to Oberon or Deidre

Thats just false - I had a sound plan in mind which a lot of people agreed to. I’ve spent this entire DP rejecting your claims. You yourself admitted that you’re playing differently this game compared to last game because you knew you were mod confirmed town. I’ve spent this entire DP rejecting your arguments and posted my reads. You have abolished any semblance of even pursuing anyone. If anyone has been death tunneling, it’s you. I’ve refuted your argument multiple times. Even Deidre sees where I’m coming from.

You keep using ad populum as if you arent the largest wagon next to Brand right now; Trying to say everyone agrees with you doesn't work when it's clearly false. I haven't been death tunneling you, and I have many many fleshed out reads, way more than you have. You chose to spend this entire day phase tunneling one line of logic and refusing to back off of it under any circumstance.

That’s your opinion lol.

You literally just asked me for my opinion on why you were scummy.

Have you even isoed me?

A lot actually. I have a tab up with your ISO as we speak.

 But I’ve spent most of time arguing back and forth with you because of your shitty death tunneling.

I have been far from death tunneling you. I have put a significant amount of pressure on Brand and Llewella as well. Both of them have improved their behavior in at least some minor capacity, where you have just stuck to your guns like you always do when your scum. You have had three days to cook. I told you I would let you cook, and you chose not to. You stuck to one like of logic and repeated it ad nauseum the entire fucking game bro. If your claim vindicates you I won't lynch you. That's not a death tunnel. If you are vanilla you are a hypocrite and probably just scum.

You’re just like boo hoo, I’m voting Flora cause I behaviorally scum read them with no objective

The fuck does that even mean? lol you aren't even making sense now.

That’s just false lol, I responded to her and I explained to Brand replacement why she’s scum. The MO is the exact same. Poke at a few places, follow the same wagons, etc. She manufactured her “reads” last game and yall townread her for it lol

Bro I was only ever on the two successful scum lynches, that I fucking led btw, and I fucking was the first one to die lol. What do you mean "Ya'll townread her"?!

It’s cause im the only one willing to put the time in to defend myself. Everyone else doesn’t give a shit. I’m probably one of the only people who give a shit about playing this game in an optimal game to win, which is why I have one of the best ELOs. You and Llewella who you coincidentally scumread are the only people who think this play is not suboptimal

Are you trying to sell me some bs that if you were scum you wouldn't defend yourself? Do you expect me to buy that?

So how are you going to deal with it the remainder of the game if *checks notes* you want to lynch me.

I'll tell you in the endgame that you should have focused something other than an easy mech focus for the entirety of dp1 and move on with my life.

Crickets on criticism of Oberon agreeing with me lmfao. You just seem to have a hard on when I do it, but not when Oberon stated he agrees 100% and Deidre is basically on board. At some point you have to realize you’re being retarded and people that are also good agree with someone who is also good. And the one person who doesn’t, you scumread lol

Diedre and Oberon agreeing with you =/= Everyone? How do I know they aren't scum with you? Why do you think I said "Interesting, noted." To Diedre? I am not as surprised about Oberon. TBH his town game isn't as strong as his scum game IMO, other than it usually being obvious when he's town, so the fact that it's not obvious to me yet is giving me red flag anyway.

Literally go read my response to when she posted her “reads” on DP1. I said there was something fishy. And literally why would I jailkeep her if I was not sus of her lol. Lucky my ass lmfao. You got fooled by her the entire game. Last game it wasn’t safe to claim Vanilla, this game it’s the safest, plus she claimed with zero pressure.

You asked her to claim, she claimed. Look at any Martin game ever where she is town and tell me she doesn't do that. Again the one time she didn't recently (last game) she was scum.

If town wants to lynch a person who has shown they’re willing to respond to people, where multiple people agree with him on the strategy, then they’re retarded lol.

Being willing to respond to people is completely AI for your scum game though. Posting in a way that is helpful towards establishing healthy reads, giving multiple directions to pursue, and being open minded is something you haven't done. For all the accusations of me death tunneling, your scum reads being largely the same as it was in your first few posts should be pretty telling to people here.

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He's to focused on that to be in a active scum chat I think

A-Random wrote:

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He's to focused on that to be in a active scum chat I think

Thats the OGI read I had on him

I’ll take your word for it that you’ll put me at L-2. I’m Vanilla as well. So now let’s see Luna tangle with *checks notes* voting a Vanilla and following the exact same strategy I said.

You shouldn't have a problem with it since it's your plan right?

I think brand is the safest lynch but id loke time to iso him later. Talk struggling to see if his frustration is scum or town. But im inclined to think scum

I do think there is a high chance one is between you and martin from a balance poe

A-Gerard wrote:

I’ll take your word for it that you’ll put me at L-2. I’m Vanilla as well. So now let’s see Luna tangle with *checks notes* voting a Vanilla and following the exact same strategy I said.

You shouldn't have a problem with it since it's your plan right?

I’m the architect of the plan that puts me on the chopping block, yes. Ofc that makes me scum right lol

BTW looked how turned up Flora is getting. This reminds me heavily of the game when I called out his bus on casey. Trying to remember the name of the game.

I’m the architect of the plan that puts me on the chopping block, yes. Ofc that makes me scum right lol

You are utterly unwilling to consider the prospect of multiple vanillas when the open set up thread tells us there are multiple vanillas. You are basing your math on the assumption that all 6 town roles are in the game, when the mod directly told us they aren't neccesarily there, giving option for more vanillas. You were a vanilla this whole time who didn't consider for a second that there could be 3 vanillas or more lol

A-Gerard wrote:

BTW looked how turned up Flora is getting. This reminds me heavily of the game when I called out his bus on casey. Trying to remember the name of the game.

This is ironic coming from you when you scumread me because I didn’t fight. Selective memory.

Can we please just use our main accounts. Everyone has broken the rules with this. Should just mod kill us all at this point. But the rate that you are allowing it. Id rather just be on my account and others on theirs. Would increase my interest 10 fold

So Flora is claiming Vanilla, after shoving mech analysis all day phase that we should lynch within vanillas, but somehow thinks he should be exempt from that same logic. He should be happy we are testing his hypothesis by lynching him. Why is throwing a tantrum at the prospect of getting lynched? He gets his way.

A-Gerard wrote:

I’m the architect of the plan that puts me on the chopping block, yes. Ofc that makes me scum right lol

You are utterly unwilling to consider the prospect of multiple vanillas when the open set up thread tells us there are multiple vanillas. You are basing your math on the assumption that all 6 town roles are in the game, when the mod directly told us they aren't neccesarily there, giving option for more vanillas. You were a vanilla this whole time who didn't consider for a second that there could be 3 vanillas or more lol

You have got to be on crack. I have never said that all 6 people have to have the town roles. If anything it was the opposite. I said in a 12 player game, let’s ASSUME 6 townies are truly Vanillas. Out of 9 townies, 6 are Vanilla. And THEN you have a 33% chance lmfao

This is ironic coming from you when you scumread me because I didn’t fight. Selective memory.

What game are you referencing lol. I never thought that about you. You always fight tooth and nail, town or scum. When was the last time you were ever even lynched?

A-Gerard wrote:

So Flora is claiming Vanilla, after shoving mech analysis all day phase that we should lynch within vanillas, but somehow thinks he should be exempt from that same logic. He should be happy we are testing his hypothesis by lynching him. Why is throwing a tantrum at the prospect of getting lynched? He gets his way.

Im saying lynch Martin. I am doing exactly what I said I would do. Let the people duke it out. I am duking it out. Either get 3 more people or stfu and stop cluttering the DP cause both Deidre and Oberon and Random agree with my plan and the one person who doesn’t, you scumread.

You have got to be on crack. I have never said that all 6 people have to have the town roles. If anything it was the opposite. I said in a 12 player game, let’s ASSUME 6 townies are truly Vanillas. Out of 9 townies, 6 are Vanilla. And THEN you have a 33% chance lmfao

If you assume there are 6 vanillas, the prospect of wanting to lynch through vanillas gurantees a heavy liklihood of mislynches. Like it's such bad logic bro

A-Gerard wrote:

This is ironic coming from you when you scumread me because I didn’t fight. Selective memory.

What game are you referencing lol. I never thought that about you. You always fight tooth and nail, town or scum. When was the last time you were ever even lynched?

Lol you were the one who lynched me in Madoka

This is dick swinging but i can see why pie would sus the vanilla claims if he is vanilla. Just mathematically and poe

Im saying lynch Martin. I am doing exactly what I said I would do. Let the people duke it out. I am duking it out. Either get 3 more people or stfu and stop cluttering the DP cause both Deidre and Oberon and Random agree with my plan and the one person who doesn’t, you scumread.

If Martin flips town, what the fuck did we learn from her lynch? Wagon analysis? We get the same thing from lynching an inactive, while removing the problem of an inactive lol.

12 person game

My bet is 3 scum 1 tp and 8 town

Id bet 4 or 5 of those town roles are not vanilla.

So 3-4 vanilla claims