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Amber Mafia - DP2

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#1 •••

The court is silent as a new day dawns on the Kingdom of Amber.

As Court begins, two absences are noted.


"Where's Julian and Flora?"

"They're probably still asleep."

"I'm not so sure. The guilty party may perhaps have struck again."


The now-nine princes of Amber make their way into Julian and Flora's chambers, where they discover their mangled corpses. They were killed by parties unknown last night.


Two of us did not survive the night.

Julian was found dead last night. They appear to have been mangled by a Manticora as he slept.

We could not determine their role, alignment or last will.


Flora was found dead last night. They died after a disagreement with a meal caused their stomach to extend and they exploded in a bloody mess.

Their role was Prince of Amber (Vanilla Townie).

They left us a last will:


Will: Wo kaun Huey? Tumhare papa.

So to start off, I was Jailed last night. The person who jailed me should be 100% considered town because there is no reason why the scum variant would jail me when they can just mislynch me. I’m going to post in my will what I wrote in private Jail chat. I will summarize what the Jailer said to avoid disclosing their identity.

Jailer: I jailed you Pie. Tell me why I shouldn’t execute it.

Pie: Just execute me lol. I know I’m town. I’m still going to stick the facts of the case that there was a 33% chance that the person in the pool was scum. Banana’s behavior was scummy. You can agree with that or not. But at the very least, I’ve done what I said we should do at the beginning of the game. 3 vanillas. Force them to duke it out or choose another person. I chose Banana. Banana basically wagoned me the entire game based on a bandwagon. 

I came up the with plan that would implicate me. You can probably just kill me and reduce the Vanilla claims even more. I’ve already stated what the plan for tomorrow is. Get Fiona to claim. Then get Brand to claim and figure out the lynch. Cause the Vanilla pool will be small anyways.

Whoever you are though, I know for a fact you are town. Doesn’t make sense for scum to Jail me here. A good reason to keep me alive is I can confirm you tomorrow

Honestly, it may just be a good idea to just kill me and analyze the wagon. Because the tie thing is 100% AI. Llewella was also AWOL which is another line of inquiry. Fiona should be forced to claim. Brands is interesting.

Tell Mago to ping when otherwise I’ll be checking this periodically. Happy to see you’ve already submitted tho

The tie notion is really interesting to me because it absolves people of responsibility. Caine and Julian both were doing this. Random disappearing at the end is also sus tbh.

Jailer: Reveals their identity to me and gives reasoning that they Jailed me which further solidifies my town read of them. Says they will they executed me in DP2

Pie: No, if you execute me. Don’t say that you did it. It makes zero sense for scum to execute me. Whoever did it has to be town, and we need to keep ur roleblock hidden.

Reads:

Lean Scum:

Fiona - I think Fiona is a worthy target for analysis. Joining the wagon with zero reasoning is just bad. Like horrible level of play. It’s stupid. Don’t know if they would be this blatant. Also, for the record I don’t know who this individual is.

Caine: With Banana flipping town and me being Vanilla, combined with the last minute switch to the 50/50, I feel like there’s something here worth investigating. He usually is inactive in scum chat if I remember correctly, which explains why he would be doing all the testing.


Tilt Scum:

Deirdre - I would be wary of Deirdre as well. He was initially supporting the wagon on me, but the switch to Martin seemed like a buddying effort. You’re going to lose a lynch if it’s 9-3. Cause with my execution, it will be 6-3, but it will open up the floor and go to square one.

Llewella - I think Llewella is slight scum here. He’s claiming he’s purposefully not posting but that’s NAI, and he shouldn’t get a pass for it. Put him on a wagon and make him squeal. I think Llewella/Gerard is an interesting pairing because they’ve been contrarian but not a hard core scumread. Llewella’s obsession with Bley’s should also give info on him if there are further flips. I also didn’t like the disproportionate response to Brand. The logic leap there didn’t make sense to me.


Null: 

Oberon - Oberon is also an inactive slot. They defended Brand pretty hard and were buddying me, so there’s something there.

Brand - Brand pre sub is definitely scummy. Post sub, I would probably read as townie, but she should definitely claim. I can definitely see Thoth subbing out as scum under the guise of being busy.

Julian - Not much here. I think this slot also got replaced and showed up late. The 50/50 push



Lean Town:

Random - I think Random is town. That whole public post about just everyone using their accounts and Mago responding to it feels town and an attempt to game the system.

Tilt Town :

Gerard - I already said that Gerard seems to be try harding this, which is NAI at the most recent stage. But the whole inquiry at the beginning didn’t make sense to me at all. I agree with people that it was doing something for the sake of doing something, but he’s not a priority. If he continues to live though, I would be very very wary.

At the worst, we’ve significantly reduce the ability of scum to claim Vanilla. They’re going to be forced to claim a PR or face the exact same scrutiny with 2 flipped Vanillas behind them

Jailer: Probably will execute

Pie: That’s fine, I’m going laugh when Luna sees that I’m Vanilla. I’m interested to see who dies though cause Luna is the obv Jailer target.

I stg town paranoia going to be the end of us

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That’s the gist of our conversation. There’s obviously some irrelevant stuff missing that the Jailer can confirm. Final thoughts though. If scum also have a Jailer, then it will be 5-3, which just sucks, but everyone should mass claim in alphabetical order outside of Caine. That should reveal at least one scum because of the game randomization. All reads should be reset at MYLO. There will probably be CCs because it’s MYLO but that improves our odds to 50/50, especially with reads from DP1. 

Also, I would be wary of the Traitor. They know who their partners are so if they die at any point, read them well. Scum in the PM don’t know, so take note of that. 

Whoever the role cop (hopefully there is one) is should target whoever claims Vanilla because scum are likely to claim Vanilla. If you were smart, you investigated Caine last night cause Pie was the lynch anyways.

Anyways, wish I could be there for mechanical analysis, but I have faith in town. Stick to your guns. Don’t be bullied. Good luck.




The King's Royal Herald has posted an official notice, stamped with the Royal Seal of Amber. It reads:


Listen up! Let’s say you drink too much strawberry milk, and have to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, but it’s cold outside your bed. You don’t want to get up, but the urge to urinate is just too strong! You make up your mind to go! You run to the bathroom, stand in front of the toilet, and let loose! You think that all your life has led to this moment! But then you realize. It isn’t the bathroom! You’re still in bed! That feeling of lukewarm wetness spreads like wildfire! But you don’t stop! You can’t stop! That’s what I’m talking about! That’s the truth of the strawberry milk! Do you get it?

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ISO #2 •••

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This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.



Not Voting (9): A-Bleys, A-Brand, A-Caine, A-Deirdre, A-Fiona, A-Gerard, A-Llewella, A-Oberon, A-Random


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 3 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes.

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ISO #3 •••

Graveyard -


DP1 - Martin (Prince of Amber).

NP1 -

  1. Julian - ???
  2. Flora (Prince of Amber)


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ISO #4 •••

Hey everyone

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ISO #5 •••

Okay since the bot is apparently in UTC, day ends at whatever time the bot says it ends. So this day is 74 hours long


Edit: I fixed this by editing the game info. Day ends in 72 hours from 6:20PM UTC Sunday

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ISO #6 •••

I promise I’ll be more active this day phase and won’t spam everyone with text posts. I’m sfill hard at work behind the scenes

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ISO #7 •••

EOD VCA


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A-Martin (4/7): A-Brand (p#1013), A-Flora (p#970), A-Caine (p#1141), A-Deirdre (p#991)

A-Flora (4/7): A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#1149), A-Martin (p#774), A-Fiona (p#980)

A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)

A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)


Not Voting (0): None


With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.



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ISO #8 •••

Claim List


A-Bleys

A-Brand

A-Caine - Vanilla

A-Deirdre

A-Fiona

A-Gerard

A-Llewella

A-Oberon

A-Random


Can’t remember if anyone else claimed


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ISO #9 •••
--> @A-Bleys, @A-Fiona

Ping. Please be more active!

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ISO #10 •••

9 alive


we we 7 v 3


we have very little room for error

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ISO #11 •••

VTL: A-Fiona


Wanna put some pressure here.

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ISO #12 •••

Sup cuntnuggets

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ISO #13 •••

If only flora could have provided those level of reads yesterday

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ISO #14 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Sup cuntnuggets

Sup

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ISO #15 •••
--> @A-Caine

Why did you say Martin seemed town, just to vote her a few posts later?

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ISO #16 •••

Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You got off Scot free yesterday because of Flora. Why shouldn’t we lynch you today?

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ISO #17 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You got off Scot free yesterday because of Flora. Why shouldn’t we lynch you today?


you know how pie and I always clash. I’m my biggest mafia wet dream would be MIs lynching Pie on day 1

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ISO #18 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Why did you say Martin seemed town, just to vote her a few posts later?

The choices were either Martin or Flora. I wasn’t certain on Flora and was Ok with letting it rand. Pie correctly found banana in the last game so I was willing to trust him

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ISO #19 •••

Well, looks like it was a TvT situation last DP, so I guess it didn’t matter how the coin flip went.


Any explanation for the dual NK? Should we assume that the TP in this game has a killing role atp, or is someone going to out that they’re the Guard Captain?


And yeah, 7-3 isn’t a great place to be, not a lot of room for error.



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ISO #20 •••
--> @A-Deirdre


A-Deirdre wrote:
Well, looks like it was a TvT situation last DP, so I guess it didn’t matter how the coin flip went.

Any explanation for the dual NK? Should we assume that the TP in this game has a killing role atp, or is someone going to out that they’re the Guard Captain?

And yeah, 7-3 isn’t a great place to be, not a lot of room for error.


mafia have a NK and town has a jail keeper that can execute their target.

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ISO #21 •••

I’m dumb, just saw that the Jailer executed Pie.

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ISO #22 •••
--> @A-Deirdre

Could be the interrogator as well, keep in mind. Pie seemed convince it was a Jailer though

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ISO #23 •••

Scum have an illusionist based on Julian’s hidden flip

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ISO #24 •••
--> @A-Caine


A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:
Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You got off Scot free yesterday because of Flora. Why shouldn’t we lynch you today?

you know how pie and I always clash. I’m my biggest mafia wet dream would be MIs lynching Pie on day 1


Sorry that was directed at Fiona but the tag didn’t work

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ISO #25 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Could be the interrogator as well, keep in mind. Pie seemed convince it was a Jailer though


Interrogafor makes zero sense as Pie was certainly gonna be a prime ML target.

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ISO #26 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:
Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You got off Scot free yesterday because of Flora. Why shouldn’t we lynch you today?

you know how pie and I always clash. I’m my biggest mafia wet dream would be MIs lynching Pie on day 1

Sorry that was directed at Fiona but the tag didn’t work


Ah ok. What’s your read on me right now?

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ISO #27 •••
--> @A-Gerard


A-Gerard wrote:
Could be the interrogator as well, keep in mind. Pie seemed convince it was a Jailer though


That would effectively mean scum has two NKs, which seems like a lot. Also, I’d like to hear the logic behind killing Pie. I know he said to just kill him, but 7-3 is significantly worse than 8-3 and I’d like to understand how that decision came down.

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ISO #28 •••
--> @A-Caine


A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:
Why did you say Martin seemed town, just to vote her a few posts later?
The choices were either Martin or Flora. I wasn’t certain on Flora and was Ok with letting it rand. Pie correctly found banana in the last game so I was willing to trust him


Not a fan of this reasoning. You have a gut feeling and go against that gut feeling for a kind of weird reason. Don’t like that you were in for so much of the day phase and chose not to do much but test until the end either.


What are your reads?

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ISO #29 •••

I'm a little busy this afternoon, will be more active later tonight. Three dead already + one of them being janitored is unfortunate. I will say that I largely agree with Pie's final reads list in his will. Going to ask everyone a question in the meantime: why do you think Julian was the NK target?

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ISO #30 •••

And pie I never really was convinced you were scum bro. I thought you spent your time poorly last day phase by shoving the mech the entire game instead of putting out reads like what you did here. You tunneled banana. So you’re welcome to laugh but at the end of the day both your fate and Bananas happened because of your own ignorance. We had a good wagon on Brand and he got away with everything because of that whole thing. So hopefully we can avoid this shit show in the future.

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