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Amber Mafia - DP2

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ISO #151 •••

New disguiser code that is hand solvable-


TmNeVlRmNePkN


My favorite number is 25 today and is the landmine for the AI cucks.

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ISO #152 •••
--> @A-Oberon


A-Oberon wrote:
Alright boys and girls I just got confirmation that I'm getting modkilled at the end of this DP so can we just treat me like confirmed town


I have a problem with how hard this community angle shoots.


If this is true I will ask the mod to confirm it but holy fuck lets just play a game without going on OOG angleshooty tangents and if this is one lets clear it up with the mod instead of making a mess out of the day phase talking about it.

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ISO #153 •••
--> @A-Oberon

If you are about to die and are town please voice anything you feel the town needs to know.

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ISO #154 •••

So Regent/Crier is in the game. Their post said some things I will not unpack but we have a self-confirming town mod confirmed in the game. Can come in clutch or scum will have to CC to counter and out them. (Whoever you are, plan to counter a CC in your messages)

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ISO #155 •••

Illusionist / Janitor is mod confirmed to exist. Interesting. Puts the mafia team at Lord of Chaos + Illusionist + ?????


Lost wolf (Traitor) if there is 3p otherwise its a question. I personally expect a lost wolf + benign / town sided 3p.


Also increases the chances of town coroner existing in the game and is semi-mech confirmable.

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ISO #156 •••

The hosts response to me left room for doubt about Oberon. Apparently nobody has been mod killed but they left things open in their response.


Oberon and Bleys were two people of interest for me today before I dig into the post flip stuff. I figure I will treat them as a normal player until given reason not to.

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ISO #157 •••

I think that the kill is more likely a town "Jail Officer" than a scum or 3p actor for reasons of targeting and that LW.


If it was specifically mafia Interrogator the Janitor move would have made more sense to go there.

If it was specifically 3p Sadist they do not execute requiring some additional interaction.


Its just a town jailor that did a bad execution. Semi-confirmable town there regardless of what you think about their action.

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ISO #158 •••

9 players alive. 2 semi-confirmable town. We are not in the worst place but not a great start.


Also jailor exe makes Guard Captian / Vig much less likely imo.

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ISO #159 •••

I will present again that at a point the player who is Regent/Crier feels is right they could reveal and be protected by a probable town jailor who did a derp.


That town Jailor should never reveal. Even if scum reveals as they die they should shove the elimination and not CC. Gives town a semi-confirmed town to work off of.

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ISO #160 •••
--> @A-Brand


A-Brand wrote:
Also, I did actually change my pfp as you can see. I also hated the one my predecessor chose fwiw. Would you mind changing yours as well? I don't like it much either. Always been emetophobic


Yeah, Sorry. And thank you. Slowly digging through tons of stuff. Literally only had the vomiting thing looking at the 10 year old BDSM pic. That thing pissed me off every time I saw it legit.

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ISO #161 •••

Fixed. Should fit the lore to some level? I duno how to convey looking "moist" which made me laugh but aloof nerdy red head with pale skin this fits.

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ISO #162 •••

A-Martin (4/7): A-Brand (p#1013), A-Flora (p#970), A-Caine (p#1141), A-Deirdre (p#991)

A-Flora (4/7): A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#1149), A-Martin (p#774), A-Fiona (p#980)

A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)

A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)


This is our starting place. Screw peoples feelings and gut reads. We should hunt through the trains. 2 confirmed town train flips with a secondary we can dig into reasoning before considering our mech situation that can make follow the leader work.

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ISO #163 •••

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.


A-Fiona (2/5): A-Caine (p#11), A-Gerard (p#55)

A-Brand (1/5): A-Oberon (p#93)


Not Voting (6): A-Bleys, A-Brand, A-Deirdre, A-Fiona, A-Llewella, A-Random


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 8 hours.

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ISO #164 •••

Why is Oberon being mod killed?

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ISO #165 •••
--> @A-Deirdre


A-Deirdre wrote:
I say we lynch Fiona. They are not going to get replaced and they seem to have 0 interest in participating. I think they are just lurking and getting away with it.

I'm fine with lynching Fiona and if that's the plan, then getting more claims would be a net negative this DP. I'm a little hesitant to just go ahead with a lynch because someone's absent, but Fiona's sudden reappearance at the end of the last DP and sudden vote don't help their case. That being said, I still think it's worth getting what reads we can out of this DP and going from there.

Sure we can make use of the rest of the time in the day phase. But yeah I don't like Fiona's behavior.

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ISO #166 •••

Bleys needs to be replaced.

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ISO #167 •••

Mod kills need to be taken super seriously. Like if you are going to mod kill someone that swings the balance majorly in the scums direction. So unless Oberon like caught a scum with it or something, it seems extremely stupid to be modkilling players. If town lose this, the default assumption people will have is that this is the mods fault. The fact that it isn't obvious what oberon even did means it wasn't that game impacting. Just my two sense.



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ISO #168 •••
--> @A-Brand


A-Brand wrote:
I'm here, meant to be on earlier, probably not going to be on for super long since it's been kind of a crazy weekend for me, I'm tired, and I regret signing up for this game a little bit, but I'll participate as much as I can. Responding to a few posts first.
A-Gerard wrote:

A-Brand wrote:
I'm a little busy this afternoon, will be more active later tonight. Three dead already + one of them being janitored is unfortunate. I will say that I largely agree with Pie's final reads list in his will. Going to ask everyone a question in the meantime: why do you think Julian was the NK target?

You got lucky last day phase. Why shouldn’t we lynch you?
If you sus me, that's your prerogative, but I am not the only person here with good reason to sus. Fiona has been scarcely present this game, Bleys has done nothing to impress me (though I'll give him a little leeway for now given what he's already said this DP) and Caine's EoD behavior was very strange imo. Why should I be lynched as opposed to anyone else?

"People are just as scummy as me" isn't a great defense. For all I know they are your scum partners.

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ISO #169 •••

Nobody is being modkilled. I promised to modkill if the rulebreaking didn’t stop; I have not actually modkilled anyone yet.

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ISO #170 •••
--> @A-Llewella


A-Llewella wrote:
Damn. Never seen Mag this pissed and I have known them for many years.

Rules are rules. We should thank them for hosting and get with the program.

I'll never glaze someone for a mod kill sorry. Especially if no one knows wtf that person was mod killed for.

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ISO #171 •••

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/57/amber-mafia?page=31&comment_number=923



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ISO #172 •••
--> @A-Gerard
Sure we can make use of the rest of the time in the day phase. But yeah I don't like Fiona's behavior.


Fair read, valid place to start (assuming Fiona ever starts posting).

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ISO #173 •••
--> @A-Llewella


A-Llewella wrote:
A-Martin (4/7): A-Brand (p#1013), A-Flora (p#970), A-Caine (p#1141), A-Deirdre (p#991)
A-Flora (4/7): A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#1149), A-Martin (p#774), A-Fiona (p#980)
A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)
A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

This is our starting place. Screw peoples feelings and gut reads. We should hunt through the trains. 2 confirmed town train flips with a secondary we can dig into reasoning before considering our mech situation that can make follow the leader work.


I'm fine starting with discussion of everyone on those wagons, though absence from the end of the DP isn't a free pass. I'm willing to give both Random and Oberon some credit for placing their votes elsewhere because both of them were justifying that to the end. I can't give that same credit to you or Bleys.

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ISO #174 •••
--> @A-Deirdre
I'm fine starting with discussion of everyone on those wagons, though absence from the end of the DP isn't a free pass. I'm willing to give both Random and Oberon some credit for placing their votes elsewhere because both of them were justifying that to the end. I can't give that same credit to you or Bleys.

I am sus of the whole Martin wagon. I give some pass to the pie wagon since I was shoving that pretty hard, but I also expected a scum or two to bandwagon me, so my take was even if pie was a mislynch we could use that wagon. Part of why I am so sus of Fiona. They had the worst reason on that wagon. Being inactive in one thing, they are willfully inactive and non participatory.

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ISO #175 •••
--> @A-Llewella


A-Llewella wrote:

A-Oberon wrote:
Alright boys and girls I just got confirmation that I'm getting modkilled at the end of this DP so can we just treat me like confirmed town

I have a problem with how hard this community angle shoots.

If this is true I will ask the mod to confirm it but holy fuck lets just play a game without going on OOG angleshooty tangents and if this is one lets clear it up with the mod instead of making a mess out of the day phase talking about it.


I agree

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ISO #176 •••

If someone wants to lie about who they are thats fine. I dont have to town read them for it though.

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ISO #177 •••

We should lynch anyone who suggests someone mod kills you for guessing who they are

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ISO #178 •••
--> @A-Gerard
I am sus of the whole Martin wagon. I give some pass to the pie wagon since I was shoving that pretty hard, but I also expected a scum or two to bandwagon me, so my take was even if pie was a mislynch we could use that wagon. Part of why I am so sus of Fiona. They had the worst reason on that wagon. Being inactive in one thing, they are willfully inactive and non participatory.


As someone who was on the Martin wagon, I don’t blame you for sussing anyone on it. Took me a while to come around to his perspective and even he had a light sus on me, apparently because he thought that was buddying. Wouldn’t blame him for that, I’ve done it as scum.

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ISO #179 •••
--> @A-Llewella


A-Llewella wrote:
A-Martin (4/7): A-Brand (p#1013), A-Flora (p#970), A-Caine (p#1141), A-Deirdre (p#991)
A-Flora (4/7): A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#1149), A-Martin (p#774), A-Fiona (p#980)
A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)
A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

This is our starting place. Screw peoples feelings and gut reads. We should hunt through the trains. 2 confirmed town train flips with a secondary we can dig into reasoning before considering our mech situation that can make follow the leader work.

Wouldn't be surprised if scum were on both mislynch trains. Kind of doesn't make sense for scum to abstain there.

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ISO #180 •••
--> @A-Deirdre


A-Deirdre wrote:
I am sus of the whole Martin wagon. I give some pass to the pie wagon since I was shoving that pretty hard, but I also expected a scum or two to bandwagon me, so my take was even if pie was a mislynch we could use that wagon. Part of why I am so sus of Fiona. They had the worst reason on that wagon. Being inactive in one thing, they are willfully inactive and non participatory.

As someone who was on the Martin wagon, I don’t blame you for sussing anyone on it. Took me a while to come around to his perspective and even he had a light sus on me, apparently because he thought that was buddying. Wouldn’t blame him for that, I’ve done it as scum.

To your credit you had the most substantiated reason for being on the wagon. Even more than Flora IMO

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