Amber Mafia - DP2

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

Why did you spam test posts all day phase instead of do anything else? Why only participate at EOD?

Becauae I’m literally trying to build new features and needed to test them.

You understand how it looks that you had time to post, and chose not to really do anything with it til EOD when you voted martin after saying you town read her right?

A-Caine wrote:

There’s a reason why I wanted to do my test game before this one

To skip the mod list, yeah we know ;-)

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

Why did you spam test posts all day phase instead of do anything else? Why only participate at EOD?

Becauae I’m literally trying to build new features and needed to test them.

You understand how it looks that you had time to post, and chose not to really do anything with it til EOD when you voted martin after saying you town read her right?

I understand. I admit I was hyper focused on tbe development that I had failed to properly play d1.

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

There’s a reason why I wanted to do my test game before this one

To skip the mod list, yeah we know ;-)

Lol. The test game wasn’t what I was planning on hosting.

A-Caine wrote:

I’m gonna have to go through and re read the last day phase but these are my reads. This is kinda where I’m at rn

A-Bleys: Needs to be far more active. A lot of their early stuff I strongly dislike esp the OGI stuff. Don’t like how they disappeared.

A-Brand - This slot is tricky. Their predecessor was not towny at all

A-Fiona: Also needs to actually get in the game and actually post.

A-Gerard: Also need to fully re evaluate. Given how hard it is to ML pie I really doubt a!Gerard will spend the day pushing him. Idk though.

Need to re read when I’m home

A-Deirdre

A-Llewella

A-Oberon

A-Random

Your reads feel very week for a 1.1k post day phase

I'm going to be on a recording in a minute, but had a couple of thoughts I want to get out.

I really don't get the Julian NK. Beyond the fact that he hadn't claimed, which would lend itself to a Janitor, I wouldn't say he was a stand out at all. There might be something to his scumreads being a reason for it, though he's hardly the only one who was considering Fiona or Caine, especially coming off of the last DP.

Also, no one's mentioned it, but The King's Royal Herald posting one of the most famous lines from Gintoki Sakata from Gintama. Lol.

A-Deirdre wrote:

I'm going to be on a recording in a minute, but had a couple of thoughts I want to get out.

I really don't get the Julian NK. Beyond the fact that he hadn't claimed, which would lend itself to a Janitor, I wouldn't say he was a stand out at all. There might be something to his scumreads being a reason for it, though he's hardly the only one who was considering Fiona or Caine, especially coming off of the last DP.

Also, no one's mentioned it, but The King's Royal Herald posting one of the most famous lines from Gintoki Sakata from Gintama. Lol.

Who would be familiar with that reference besides you?

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

Could be the interrogator as well, keep in mind. Pie seemed convince it was a Jailer though

Interrogafor makes zero sense as Pie was certainly gonna be a prime ML target.

Not pie, Julian

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You got off Scot free yesterday because of Flora. Why shouldn’t we lynch you today?

you know how pie and I always clash. I’m my biggest mafia wet dream would be MIs lynching Pie on day 1

Sorry that was directed at Fiona but the tag didn’t work

Ah ok. What’s your read on me right now?

Leaning scum ngl

So I left for a trip this weekend thinking I could phonepost, only to realize after I left that I didn't have the login info for this account saved on my phone.. Will be more active this DP, but will be busy till tomorrow night. I need to reread in light of the flips, but gut scumread from DP1 is still Brand for me. Will post a full set of reads Monday night.

It's rough Jailor killed Flora.. I was going to hard defend them today..

I already had this draft queued up so I'm going to post it:

"We should not lynch Flora today, their behaviour makes no sense from a scum perspective UNLESS Brand is also scum..

"Think about this, why would Flora hardpush Martin, who had 0 votes on them at that point, when Brand was the far better counter wagon?

"He's either protecting his scum partner Brand, or he's actually sticking to his "lynch vanilla claims" strat..

"Brand was objectively scummy last DP.. I want to ensure they do not escape the conversation today.."

How can you confuse me for magic? He's a taco bell cuckservative, I'm a coastal elite libtard..

I just wanna say Leaning did not replace me, there's something else at play here..

Also who the fuck replaced Brand? How can Julian be Supa? Supa is not on the sign up list..

Why was Julian killed any way? They're an an inactive slot thus liable to be mislynched.. The illusionist (basically janitor) role is kind of useless if Coroner exists..

@Magoroth Can disguiser and illusionist use their roles jointly? i.e disguiser takes over someone, illusionist sanitizes the disguiser so the flip is ???..

This would mean the Julian slot was scum..

A-Deirdre wrote:

I’ll be more active this evening, got a few things to handle this afternoon. I get Pie’s idea for the massclaim and if we want to do alphabetical order as he suggested, I’ll try to be around on time to get mine in. I’ll need to revisit my reads from last DP, but like Pie, Fiona and Caine are my main concerns. I can’t dismiss Llewella or Brand, either, both of whom I had reasons to sus last DP.

We should re-evaluate. With the janitored flip, mass claim is no longer as effective as it could be..

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Deirdre wrote:

I'm going to be on a recording in a minute, but had a couple of thoughts I want to get out.

I really don't get the Julian NK. Beyond the fact that he hadn't claimed, which would lend itself to a Janitor, I wouldn't say he was a stand out at all. There might be something to his scumreads being a reason for it, though he's hardly the only one who was considering Fiona or Caine, especially coming off of the last DP.

Also, no one's mentioned it, but The King's Royal Herald posting one of the most famous lines from Gintoki Sakata from Gintama. Lol.

Who would be familiar with that reference besides you?

Anyone who is decently familiar with anime. Haven't seen Gintama myself, but it's one of the more famous lines in the series.

A-Oberon wrote:

Also who the fuck replaced Brand? How can Julian be Supa? Supa is not on the sign up list..

Why was Julian killed any way? They're an an inactive slot thus liable to be mislynched.. The illusionist (basically janitor) role is kind of useless if Coroner exists..

@Magoroth Can disguiser and illusionist use their roles jointly? i.e disguiser takes over someone, illusionist sanitizes the disguiser so the flip is ???..

This would mean the Julian slot was scum..

If the Julian slot was killed then either

1) There’s a third party and they killed him for some reason

2) The mafia NK got blocked

3) Mafia and town vig jointly killed pie

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

Why did you spam test posts all day phase instead of do anything else? Why only participate at EOD?

Becauae I’m literally trying to build new features and needed to test them.

You understand how it looks that you had time to post, and chose not to really do anything with it til EOD when you voted martin after saying you town read her right?

As a developer myself, I understand Caine's behaviour completely..

We should re-evaluate. With the janitored flip, mass claim is no longer as effective as it could be..

I agree, though that's true for exactly one claim here. There are two other scum players and one TP who don't have access to a safe claim, and even the one scum player who got it may have just flipped another VT or gotten a role that may be disprovable. Not saying we just all out now, but I'd still consider it.

A-Oberon wrote:

Also who the fuck replaced Brand? How can Julian be Supa? Supa is not on the sign up list..

Why was Julian killed any way? They're an an inactive slot thus liable to be mislynched.. The illusionist (basically janitor) role is kind of useless if Coroner exists..

@Magoroth Can disguiser and illusionist use their roles jointly? i.e disguiser takes over someone, illusionist sanitizes the disguiser so the flip is ???..

This would mean the Julian slot was scum..

Yes, Disguiser and Illusionist can achieve that effect.

You misunderstand me.. See what Mag posted above..

I'm saying the Julian player was scum disguiser.. They have a illusionist scum buddy.. Julian killed someone to take over their account, then had their buddy janitor the flip to conceal the role.. This is the only way it makes sense..

A-Oberon wrote:

You misunderstand me.. See what Mag posted above..

I'm saying the Julian player was scum disguiser.. They have a illusionist scum buddy.. Julian killed someone to take over their account, then had their buddy janitor the flip to conceal the role.. This is the only way it makes sense..

So who killed Julian?

A-Oberon wrote:

How can you confuse me for magic? He's a taco bell cuckservative, I'm a coastal elite libtard..

You just haven't posted enough for me to accurately figure it out I guess, and Magic was very inactive last game towards the later phases so assumed it was you

Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..

Bleys -

Brand -

Caine - vanilla

Deidre -

Fiona -

Gerard - vanilla (his rot13 code was too simple, I'm sure scum already knows this so I'm just going to put it up here..)

Llewella -

Oberon -

Random -

Julian - ???

Flora - vanilla

Martin - banana - vanilla

So far we only have vanilla claims.. Just probabilistically I suspect this game is very vanilla heavy.. There's a jailor, a crier, probably a coroner, and maybe 1 other town role, and that's probably it..

As a developer myself, I understand Caine's behaviour completely..

That makes one of us

A-Oberon wrote:

Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..

Oh I see. Yeah that does make sense

A-Oberon wrote:

Bleys -

Brand -

Caine - vanilla

Deidre -

Fiona -

Gerard - vanilla (his rot13 code was too simple, I'm sure scum already knows this so I'm just going to put it up here..)

Llewella -

Oberon -

Random -

Julian - ???

Flora - vanilla

Martin - banana - vanilla

So far we only have vanilla claims.. Just probabilistically I suspect this game is very vanilla heavy.. There's a jailor, a crier, probably a coroner, and maybe 1 other town role, and that's probably it..

tbh that’s what I’m thinking as well. Lynching VT claims blindly will get us nowhere

A-Oberon wrote:

Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..

Illusionist

Description: You are a master of illusion and subterfuge, destroying evidence and wiping out all traces of nefarious activity.

Ability: Sanitize a player at night. If they die that night or during the ensuing day, their role, alignment and last will won’t be revealed. One charge. Renewed up to once if the target does not die.

^^^^

From the Set up thread

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Oberon wrote:

Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..

Illusionist

Description: You are a master of illusion and subterfuge, destroying evidence and wiping out all traces of nefarious activity.

Ability: Sanitize a player at night. If they die that night or during the ensuing day, their role, alignment and last will won’t be revealed. One charge. Renewed up to once if the target does not die.

^^^^

From the Set up thread

These mechs are confusing me. So this basically confirms that Julius slot was janitored.