Frieren Mafia - DP1

Mikal wrote:

Its just easy to bully you into slipping. 3 games running you have been a dp1 scum lynch for saying weird shit. Pressure on you is never bad because the more you talk the more you slip.

So you are either quiet and its prob a scum tell

Or you talk a lot and if you are scum, you inevitably will throw

so hes just scum either way?

Mikal wrote:

Also angle shooting isn't banned. He said minimal. So im sure ill pull from my arsenal at some point. Plus wf wont kill me. So not to worried about it

he wont kill you? why are u so sure about that

Thoth wrote:

I’m honestly starting to reconsider that scumread since this is Mikal we are talking about, but I’ll park my vote for now and watch as the day progresses.

I’ll soft that I am male.

wait why did u soft

Lunatic wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

Do you still have those same thoughts/gut feels/whatever on Mikal? Why or why not?

It was kind of RVS but he was not taking the bait. That said I think it’s unlikely Thoth is scum three times in a row. But pretty sure I’ve said the same thing about Whiteflame and been wrong in the past. That said there is a world where Mikal’s Thoth push is not just an opportunistic thing and something he genuinely thinks will go somewhere useful. It’s early game though so we will see. With 9 players and having so many strong players in this one I’d rather focus people like pie and Mikal and yourself early on though

what is rvs again

ooh big post from magic

Lunatic wrote:

I still wanna lynch Mikal honestly.

why?

Mag1cman wrote:

Last sentence probably pairs scum Lunatic with someone outside of Pie, Mikal, and I (Banana, Wylted, Magoroth, Rex, Thoth). Of those names, Thoth sticks out the most for obvious reasons.

Consequently, this unpairs scum Lunatic with Pie and Mikal. 80% confidence

if anyones gonna bus its gonna be him tho

Banana wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

VTL Banana

Come on Pie, we tricked her into joining lets do this.

no. bad.

are u town?

Just got back from hanging out with family but doesn't look like i missed to much

Initial gut check is there is prob 1 scum between rex and Anna

I dislike anas entrance and I hate that I do because im tired of pressuring and killing her. But the random questions to people and how its separated out just seems fake. Like less reads and more about how shes responding to look like shes engaging

I also disliked the initial pressure from rex on to her. Dont think they could be paired as scum

Banana wrote:

Mikal wrote:

Its just easy to bully you into slipping. 3 games running you have been a dp1 scum lynch for saying weird shit. Pressure on you is never bad because the more you talk the more you slip.

So you are either quiet and its prob a scum tell

Or you talk a lot and if you are scum, you inevitably will throw

so hes just scum either way?

No. If he falls silent he’s scum, if keeps talking he is either town or scum. If slips, he’s scum, if not, he’s town. That’s what Mikal’s saying.

Banana wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

Do you still have those same thoughts/gut feels/whatever on Mikal? Why or why not?

It was kind of RVS but he was not taking the bait. That said I think it’s unlikely Thoth is scum three times in a row. But pretty sure I’ve said the same thing about Whiteflame and been wrong in the past. That said there is a world where Mikal’s Thoth push is not just an opportunistic thing and something he genuinely thinks will go somewhere useful. It’s early game though so we will see. With 9 players and having so many strong players in this one I’d rather focus people like pie and Mikal and yourself early on though

what is rvs again

Random vote start, random vote selection, random vote something else idr

Bascially just reaction baiting someone with a random vote

Banana wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

Last sentence probably pairs scum Lunatic with someone outside of Pie, Mikal, and I (Banana, Wylted, Magoroth, Rex, Thoth). Of those names, Thoth sticks out the most for obvious reasons.

Consequently, this unpairs scum Lunatic with Pie and Mikal. 80% confidence

if anyones gonna bus its gonna be him tho

Maybe. That’s why it’s not 99%. But this reads like a quote to keep town away from a whole section of players. In a scum Lunatic world, that’s most likely what it is. I think putting attention on your teammate early is a bad idea in a 7v2.

Like if you’re gonna distance your partner DP1, you’d want to do it later in the DP after you’re sure your distancing isn’t gonna lead to significant pressure on them

RexFavilla wrote:

Banana wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

VTL Banana

Come on Pie, we tricked her into joining lets do this.

no. bad.

are u town?

Amazing.

Mikal wrote:

Just got back from hanging out with family but doesn't look like i missed to much

Initial gut check is there is prob 1 scum between rex and Anna

I dislike anas entrance and I hate that I do because im tired of pressuring and killing her. But the random questions to people and how its separated out just seems fake. Like less reads and more about how shes responding to look like shes engaging

I also disliked the initial pressure from rex on to her. Dont think they could be paired as scum

Maybe. I think some of the questions are just of lesser quality. And Pie at least gave his reads when he popped in to ask questions. It is a little scummy. Doesn’t feel like the worst thing in the world, but I see what you mean.

i do wonder if the timing of her entrance has anything to do with me saying we should get a claim from one of the inactives. Eh. Tbh this is also the moment when I would’ve expected her to enter the thread as either affiliation.

Rex is honestly the person I would pursue after Thoth. He’s clearly hanging out in the thread but has nothing to say other than some jokes and some memes

I can see a Rex-Banana world. But believing it is another thing. I still find Thoth to be scummiest.

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

Thoth (3/5): Mikal (p#18), ILikePie5 (p#73), Mag1cman (p#78)

Mikal (2/5): Thoth (p#16), Lunatic (p#49)

Banana (1/5): RexFavilla (p#19)

Magoroth (1/5): wylted (p#27)

Not Voting (2): Banana, Magoroth

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 1 day, 13 hours.

I am Himmel - Vanilla

I dislike anas entrance and I hate that I do because im tired of pressuring and killing her. But the random questions to people and how its separated out just seems fake. Like less reads and more about how shes responding to look like shes engaging

kind of doesnt make sense tho, im actually feeling like this entire perspective is faked ironicly because you are kind of nit picking like a few posts that i have made at the start of the game lol. but on the other hand you havent really been doin much yourself, your just posting to post. you kind of had some troll takes and a weak poke on thoth, and now me. like this just doesnt look too good for u sir.

Mag1cman wrote:

Banana wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

Do you still have those same thoughts/gut feels/whatever on Mikal? Why or why not?

It was kind of RVS but he was not taking the bait. That said I think it’s unlikely Thoth is scum three times in a row. But pretty sure I’ve said the same thing about Whiteflame and been wrong in the past. That said there is a world where Mikal’s Thoth push is not just an opportunistic thing and something he genuinely thinks will go somewhere useful. It’s early game though so we will see. With 9 players and having so many strong players in this one I’d rather focus people like pie and Mikal and yourself early on though

what is rvs again

Random vote start, random vote selection, random vote something else idr

Bascially just reaction baiting someone with a random vote

does this work ever and what does it accomplish lol

Maybe. That’s why it’s not 99%. But this reads like a quote to keep town away from a whole section of players. In a scum Lunatic world, that’s most likely what it is. I think putting attention on your teammate early is a bad idea in a 7v2.

could be but pitt was 7 v 2 as well js

VTL: Mikal

mikal is the most scummy to me. his views are hypocritical, it doesnt feel like he is really trying despite pushing others for having "fake" stands, i just dont really get it. he has been a bit trolly and doesnt seem to be using his time in a good way. i get a feeling he is probs scum

Justification

This doesn't make much sense at all

Because i was gone and there is nothing to engage with so far. Which is also why no one has really developed hard reads.

My point is individually responding to posts like "why?" Or "explain that" is something I often find mafia do when they are wanting to appear town. Its like cheap analysis

Just mentioned below. Im not sure its a hard read for me but it seems like feigned engagement. Thoth claim imo is a much bigger issue.

Cus himmel as vanilla is kinda troll

So like thinking on this. There is a world where he is vanilla but lord that makes not a lot of sense. Himel is literally the foundation of the show and the reason they are going to kill the demon king

Where the character and role claim combined or separate

Would you give mafia

You are x because y

Or

A character not in the game is x

A role not in the game is y

Depending on how this is answered im prob killing thoth

If he gave a character with a justification for that character thoth is likely hard town

If he did the latter. Thoth is prob scum

The character and role they would receive would not come with a justification, so more like the latter than the former.

Im prob okay with pushing thoth. Want to hear the justification but with the character and role being separate. Himmel makes the most sense as a fake claim as well ironically. Just doesn't make sense for him to be in the game and be vanilla.

Bodyguard

Paladin

Etc would be his lane.

Don't want to jump on this to hard yet and end early because there is an outside world where wf made him vanilla but this is extremely odd.

My bet is the opted for the fake role and character and if thoth is scum. Then he is prob with a noob cus no one let's him claim this out the gate