Stereotype Mafia DP2

I’m here

I can't say anything has really shifted my perspective on Ultra, either. Maybe he did just post bits and pieces of his PM to ChatGPT and leave out an important detail that every other claimed Vanilla says they have, but that combined with providing very limited takes on other players (he's behaviorally sussed Wylted a few times this DP after saying that he claimed because he didn't want Wylted to claim earlier and believing there are multiple Vanillas in the game, then turned his attention to Helz and Rex to get claims and then just stayed gone), and a claim that stands out from everyone else's (again, it's the only generational claim on the table) just gives me a bunch of small red flags.

Wylted has a few too, but they're almost all behavioral. I don't love a lot of his opinions this game, and so we've got the opposite problem: he stands out, but I'm trying to parse whether he would do this much to stand out if he was scum. That justification doesn't help and both of them are in the same boat on the Vanilla claims.

The fact that Ultra is not dead just makes me think he's scum more

Helz wrote:

wylted wrote:

I know I have no room to talk. This is a game that appears to me about various races of people and I called Jews scummy. It's in vogue to hate on Jews and calling an open Jew a secret jew because it's like a meta commentary on the game and is an obvious display of humor.

The role you are talking about is so rare. It's like considering jesters. Just lose if there's jesters because it's bastard modding and you are leaving it up to chance anyway

I have no idea what you are on about there. I think you are absolute flat scum from your positions with other players and 2 slips I won't unpack yet.

I want you to die or I want a no elimination today. Thats my goal.

Why not unpack them

Helz harping on the whole I’m affiliation confirmable after tonight so vote Wylted is just retarded when we’ve all asked him 50 times why Wylted. He doesn’t realize that I’ve pulled the same bs multiple times

Wryly wrote:

Looking back, not super happy that Ultra has been such an easy wagon. A large percentage of players seem to have voted him at one point or another. He could just be LHF.

Would be hilarious if Mikal is straight claiming Indians but is scum and his actual role justification is that Indians are telephone scammers, hence scum mason.

I don't think I buy no Jews in the game, especially with Muslims and Christians being claimed, so someone is lying. That would indicate Mechanic 3 is false. And that Jews are on the scum side of the theme split. Or 3P, I suppose.

100% agree.

Why on earth is no lynching today good? That mean town gets just two tiwn directed kills this whole game. Insanity.

RexFavilla wrote:

Why on earth is no lynching today good? That mean town gets just two tiwn directed kills this whole game. Insanity.

Yeah, that makes no sense to me, either.

ILikePie5 wrote:

Helz harping on the whole I’m affiliation confirmable after tonight so vote Wylted is just retarded when we’ve all asked him 50 times why Wylted. He doesn’t realize that I’ve pulled the same bs multiple times

Like how can you have two players holding out and causing a no lynch demanding you lynch their pick and they can't even make a coherent case for why that player is scum?

1 Age

2 Nationalities

2 Gender

3 Religion

4 Races

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

wylted (3/6): MeowMix (p#567), Helz (p#658), Mikal (p#852)

Ultracrepidarian (3/6): ILikePie5 (p#626), wylted (p#662), RexFavilla (p#786)

Helz (1/6): Ultracrepidarian (p#477)

Not Voting (3): Thoth (p#760), whiteflame (p#611), Wryly

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase has ended.

ILikePie5 wrote:

1 Age

Ultra (Boomer)

2 Nationalities

Kohai (Russians)

Rex (Canadians)

2 Gender

Pie (Women)

Wryly (LGBT)

2 Religion

Whiteflame (Christians)

Helz (Muslims)

5 Races

Banana (Asians)

Mikal (Indians)

Wylted (Whites)

MeowMix (Blacks)

Thoth (Mexicans)

Slight modification, since it's 5 races and 2 religions.

whiteflame wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

1 Age

Ultra (Boomer)

2 Nationalities

Kohai (Russians)

Rex (Canadians)

2 Gender

Pie (Women)

Wryly (LGBT)

2 Religion

Whiteflame (Christians)

Helz (Muslims)

5 Races

Banana (Asians)

Mikal (Indians)

Wylted (Whites)

MeowMix (Blacks)

Thoth (Mexicans)

Slight modification, since it's 5 races and 2 religions.

Ya you’re right, I was dreaming about Jews all night thanks to Mikal and Wylted

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

wylted (3/6): MeowMix (p#567), Helz (p#658), Mikal (p#852)

Ultracrepidarian (3/6): ILikePie5 (p#626), wylted (p#662), RexFavilla (p#786)

Helz (1/6): Ultracrepidarian (p#477)

Not Voting (3): Thoth (p#760), whiteflame (p#611), Wryly

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase has ended.

40 minutes

Ultra did claim about a day before Wylted did, though his earlier claim came as a result of a lot of pressure. Harder to read into Wylted's claim since he basically just gave it after subbing in. If he's scum, either his teammates gave it to him, or he straight claimed his character.

I'm not getting anywhere with this analysis. I really don't like Wylted's most recent posts. I'm kind of baffled by the read on Wryly and I don't like his surmising about a potential Suicide Bomber. That's the main thing that's irking me. Maybe it's just Wylted being random and giving some weird hot takes, but I can't help but see them as attempts to distract from his lynch.

That being said, he's not wrong in #862. I didn't get Ultra's logic for trying to stop Wylted from claiming on the basis that he might be a Cop, particularly with the flipped Lie Detector. Wylted's wrong that we're all races and I'm not sure why Ultra would have seen the Vanilla claim as a release valve, but there's at least one good point in there.

So yeah, Ultra still sticks out a little more than Wylted to me. If it comes down to having a lynch on Wylted or no one, I'd prefer the lynch, but if it's a choice between the two of them, it's Ultra.

VTL: Ultracrepidarian

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

Ultracrepidarian (4/6): ILikePie5 (p#626), wylted (p#662), RexFavilla (p#786), whiteflame (p#917)

wylted (3/6): MeowMix (p#567), Helz (p#658), Mikal (p#852)

Helz (1/6): Ultracrepidarian (p#477)

Not Voting (2): Thoth (p#760), Wryly

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase has ended.

21 minutes

I'll stick around for the little time we have left, but seems like I'm mostly just talking with Pie and Rex at this point and we're on the same page. Please recognize that Thoth doesn't get a vote because he's locked in on Wryly. We need someone to change their vote and for Wryly to place theirs.

whiteflame wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

1 Age

Ultra (Boomer)

2 Nationalities

Kohai (Russians)

Rex (Canadians)

2 Gender

Pie (Women)

Wryly (LGBT)

2 Religion

Whiteflame (Christians)

Helz (Muslims)

5 Races

Banana (Asians)

Mikal (Indians)

Wylted (Whites)

MeowMix (Blacks)

Thoth (Mexicans)

Slight modification, since it's 5 races and 2 religions.

I'd consider Indians and Mexicans nationalities, not races. The race of Mexicans if they can be said to have one is Hispanic/Latino, though there is a wide range of subclades - castizo, mestizo, afro-latino, indigenous. The race of Indians is subcontinental or South Asian because you see the same racial makeup in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and parts of Nepal, with the main different being more Indo-Aryan admixture in Pakistan and more East Asian admixture in Nepal, and higher levels of Ancient Ancestral South Indian (AASI) among the Tamil peoples, which contains a higher Denisovan genetic component. We should really strive to be more scientific and rigorous with our racism, this is shoddy work.

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RexFavilla wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

1 Age

Ultra (Boomer)

2 Nationalities

Kohai (Russians)

Rex (Canadians)

2 Gender

Pie (Women)

Wryly (LGBT)

2 Religion

Whiteflame (Christians)

Helz (Muslims)

5 Races

Banana (Asians)

Mikal (Indians)

Wylted (Whites)

MeowMix (Blacks)

Thoth (Mexicans)

Slight modification, since it's 5 races and 2 religions.

I'd consider Indians and Mexicans nationalities, not races. The race of Mexicans if they can be said to have one is Hispanic/Latino, though there is a wide range of subclades - castizo, mestizo, afro-latino, indigenous. The race of Indians is subcontinental or South Asian because you see the same racial makeup in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and parts of Nepal, with the main different being more Indo-Aryan admixture in Pakistan and more East Asian admixture in Nepal, and higher levels of Ancient Ancestral South Indian (AASI) among the Tamil peoples, which contains a higher Denisovan genetic component. We should really strive to be more scientific and rigorous with our racism, this is shoddy work.

You know what, fair. I apologize, I really should be bringing phrenology into this while I'm at it (I'll get out my tape measure and skull collection). That would mean 4 Nationalities and 3 Races.

1 Age

Ultra (Boomer)

4 Nationalities

Kohai (Russians)

Rex (Canadians)

Mikal (Indians)

Thoth (Mexicans)

2 Gender

Pie (Women)

Wryly (LGBT)

2 Religion

Whiteflame (Christians)

Helz (Muslims)

3 Races

Banana (Asians)

Wylted (Whites)

MeowMix (Blacks)

whiteflame wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

I'd consider Indians and Mexicans nationalities, not races. The race of Mexicans if they can be said to have one is Hispanic/Latino, though there is a wide range of subclades - castizo, mestizo, afro-latino, indigenous. The race of Indians is subcontinental or South Asian because you see the same racial makeup in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and parts of Nepal, with the main different being more Indo-Aryan admixture in Pakistan and more East Asian admixture in Nepal, and higher levels of Ancient Ancestral South Indian (AASI) among the Tamil peoples, which contains a higher Denisovan genetic component. We should really strive to be more scientific and rigorous with our racism, this is shoddy work.

You know what, fair. I apologize, I really should be bringing phrenology into this while I'm at it (I'll get out my tape measure and skull collection). That would mean 4 Nationalities and 3 Races.

Never leave your calipers at home. Sometimes I like to double check when I'm riding public transit and can't quite tell at a glance; you can never be too careful. I aspire to the 'He's Laotian, aint ya?' level but, alas, I've at times fallen short.

Actual Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

Ultracrepidarian (4/6): ILikePie5 (p#626), wylted (p#662), RexFavilla (p#786), whiteflame (p#917)

wylted (3/6): MeowMix (p#567), Helz (p#658), Mikal (p#852)

Wryly (3/6): Thoth (p#734)

Helz (1/6): Ultracrepidarian (p#477)

Not Voting (2): Thoth (p#760), Wryly

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase ends in 8 minutes

RexFavilla wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

I'd consider Indians and Mexicans nationalities, not races. The race of Mexicans if they can be said to have one is Hispanic/Latino, though there is a wide range of subclades - castizo, mestizo, afro-latino, indigenous. The race of Indians is subcontinental or South Asian because you see the same racial makeup in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and parts of Nepal, with the main different being more Indo-Aryan admixture in Pakistan and more East Asian admixture in Nepal, and higher levels of Ancient Ancestral South Indian (AASI) among the Tamil peoples, which contains a higher Denisovan genetic component. We should really strive to be more scientific and rigorous with our racism, this is shoddy work.

You know what, fair. I apologize, I really should be bringing phrenology into this while I'm at it (I'll get out my tape measure and skull collection). That would mean 4 Nationalities and 3 Races.

Never leave your calipers at home. Sometimes I like to double check when I'm riding public transit and can't quite tell at a glance; you can never be too careful. I aspire to the 'He's Laotian, aint ya?' level but, alas, I've at times fallen short.

Love a good King of the Hill reference. And yeah, I feel that bafflement from Kahn. Dude didn't see that coming.

Well, this is looking like it will result in a whole lot of nothing. And I'm sure we'll be facing the exact same question next DP, just without any flips to inform our reads. I guess it's not the end of the world that we will likely end up on an odd number, but with the TP in play, I can't say I'm comfortable with it. God help us...