Wryly wrote:
Yeah I'd like to know that as well, I assumed he got a shekel for every DP he survived.
Or maybe he has a night action where he has to 'jew' people to get shekels and if he targets a broke demographic like blacks or Indians he doesn't get any shekels.
How is it that im the Germans and im the one one who's suppose to target him when im a confirm mason. Is the suggestion that im Germans, a mason, and that is win if i kill them
The amount of flailing going on is boggling.
He literally was asking people are you the hidden jew lol
ILikePie5 wrote:
Wryly wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
Right now, I have more of a reason to buy WF as town than Mikal. WF is 90% town. Mikal is more like 65%
Are you basing those numbers on Mikal not being roleblocked
Yes at least partially
One of you could be lying about being roleblocked, so I'm not sure that should strengthen likelihood percentages.
Wryly wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
Wryly wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
Right now, I have more of a reason to buy WF as town than Mikal. WF is 90% town. Mikal is more like 65%
Are you basing those numbers on Mikal not being roleblocked
Yes at least partially
One of you could be lying about being roleblocked, so I'm not sure that should strengthen likelihood percentages.
Thats also a fair point
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RexFavilla wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Yeah I'd like to know that as well, I assumed he got a shekel for every DP he survived.
Or maybe he has a night action where he has to 'jew' people to get shekels and if he targets a broke demographic like blacks or Indians he doesn't get any shekels.
omfg I'm dead
RexFavilla wrote:
Mikal's role sounds like the Germans. He's like Hans Landa from Inglorious Bastards - opening PMs and interrogating people, trying to sniff out (and snuff out) the Jews. It makes perfect sense for a lyncher to also be a neighborizer.
I can’t say I agree with this one. Don’t have a strong townread on Mikal, but him being a Neighborizer and a Lyncher seems like a lot.
Wryly wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
There's a more than decent chance that there are no Vanillas in the game at all and that was the fake mechanic. I get that that was part of the argument we had about that mechanic last DP and everyone just sort of accepted that it had to be true, but it's the difference between having at least 2 Vanillas and having 0 or 1.
If 5 is the fake mechanic, why are people fake claiming? Just to avoid outing themselves as the Germans? So only one scum is fake claiming?
Avoiding claiming Germans specifically would make sense given the tie to Jews. That might tie more into the lack of a theme split being wrong, so I take your point, though whether there’s an active theme split or just an anti-claim mechanic between these two characters is unclear.
wylted wrote:
I just realized this and at least one of you on my wagon is sincere but how the fuck would a "lyncher"
Make sense with a role that gets town confirmed by the mod on DP3?
Your theory rests on lunatic giving the TP an impossible task and why are you tp hunting instead of scum hunting?
I don’t get your point, but I think you’re scum, so…
Mikal wrote:
How is it that im the Germans and im the one one who's suppose to target him when im a confirm mason. Is the suggestion that im Germans, a mason, and that is win if i kill them
But you're NOT a confirmed Mason, and you've been lying about that all game. A mason is confirmed town (or not mafia) to the person they are making a PM with and can only draw town (or 'not mafia') into the mason PM, so the PM pool is a confirmed town pool. Both Pie and Whiteflame have confirmed that you are not a mason because your affiliation was not confirmed to them. You are a neighborizer. Why you lyin'?
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wylted (2/5): whiteflame (p#27), Mikal (p#51)
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whiteflame wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Mikal's role sounds like the Germans. He's like Hans Landa from Inglorious Bastards - opening PMs and interrogating people, trying to sniff out (and snuff out) the Jews. It makes perfect sense for a lyncher to also be a neighborizer.
I can’t say I agree with this one. Don’t have a strong townread on Mikal, but him being a Neighborizer and a Lyncher seems like a lot.
Why? Neighborizer makes a lyncher's job easier. And he targeted you, who claimed softed a religion very early. It makes sense that he suspected that if someone is lying about being the jews it was you because if you are you came up with a religious 'fake claim' very early. That's more likely to come with someone with a religious 'real' claim.
Its literally called a mason. Why in the fuck would I lie about that. I would just have said I recruit people into the neighborhood and the justification would still make sense as a neighborizer. I have no control over what he names this shit lol
Mikal wrote:
Its literally called a mason. Why in the fuck would I lie about that. I would just have said I recruit people into the neighborhood and the justification would still make sense as a neighborizer. I have no control over what he names this shit lol
Just like Pie called what was functionally a redirector a 'magnet' last game lol?
Here you go. Since ultra didn't get mod killed for it. Why not. Ill copy and paste a summary in old English
Dumb fuck dear God
RexFavilla wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Mikal's role sounds like the Germans. He's like Hans Landa from Inglorious Bastards - opening PMs and interrogating people, trying to sniff out (and snuff out) the Jews. It makes perfect sense for a lyncher to also be a neighborizer.
I can’t say I agree with this one. Don’t have a strong townread on Mikal, but him being a Neighborizer and a Lyncher seems like a lot.
Why? Neighborizer makes a lyncher's job easier. And he targeted you, who claimed softed a religion very early. It makes sense that he suspected that if someone is lying about being the jews it was you because if you are you came up with a religious 'fake claim' very early. That's more likely to come with someone with a religious 'real' claim.
I’ll just nip this in the bud. I was recruited first, not WF. Second, Luna names his Neighborizer as Masons. I already did the research
wylted wrote:
I don’t get your point, but I think you’re scum, so…
So the theory is I am a TP scum whose wincon is to lynch the Jew who has been both town confirmed and confirmed death proof, but that I am also on the scum team?
The theory is that you are on the scum team, that there is also a “Germans” on the scum team or you are the Germans yourself, and that you could have killed him during the DP or executed an extra NK if you discovered them.
wylted wrote:
Fuck it I will confess. Because whatever the fuck whatever. I was given white male as a fake claim by lunatic, but I am literally a German and my wincon is to kill the Jew . I get one bullet to attempt it at night but apparently the Jew is bullet proof and the other way I win is by getting them lynched but they get town confirmed today so that's literally impossible. So i don't know why lunatic literally made my wincon impossible but there it is. Go ahead and lynch me or whatever, I can't win anyway. I tried even my attempt to call the Jew a scribe failed because lunatic felt the need to interject like a dick head. I will never play a game he hosts again. This role is complete bullshit. Also my read on ultra is legitimate I think he is genuinely scum.
Lunatic confirmed to me in DMs that zero fake claims were given to anyone so idk why you'd lie about lying. I encourage others to confirm that with him.
RexFavilla wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Mikal's role sounds like the Germans. He's like Hans Landa from Inglorious Bastards - opening PMs and interrogating people, trying to sniff out (and snuff out) the Jews. It makes perfect sense for a lyncher to also be a neighborizer.
I can’t say I agree with this one. Don’t have a strong townread on Mikal, but him being a Neighborizer and a Lyncher seems like a lot.
Why? Neighborizer makes a lyncher's job easier. And he targeted you, who claimed softed a religion very early. It makes sense that he suspected that if someone is lying about being the jews it was you because if you are you came up with a religious 'fake claim' very early. That's more likely to come with someone with a religious 'real' claim.
I have some reason to doubt that that would require me getting into what information I think Mikal had about my role and why that matters, so I’ll abstain from specifics, but I don’t think this narrative holds up.
Thanks for the confession
wylted wrote:
Fuck it I will confess. Because whatever the fuck whatever. I was given white male as a fake claim by lunatic, but I am literally a German and my wincon is to kill the Jew . I get one bullet to attempt it at night but apparently the Jew is bullet proof and the other way I win is by getting them lynched but they get town confirmed today so that's literally impossible. So i don't know why lunatic literally made my wincon impossible but there it is. Go ahead and lynch me or whatever, I can't win anyway. I tried even my attempt to call the Jew a scribe failed because lunatic felt the need to interject like a dick head. I will never play a game he hosts again. This role is complete bullshit. Also my read on ultra is legitimate I think he is genuinely scum.
This shit is just getting ridiculous.
From the lands of India arise more than a million voices, laboring within great call houses. Day by day and night by night, these hosts do place countless missives unto the folk of America. Though their calls be vexing and oft most foolish, still do many answer the ringing bell.
Thus art thou the recruiter of thee masons. With each passing eve, thou mayest place thy call unto a single soul and bid them join thy fellowship. Should thy brethren of the town prevail, then shalt thou likewise claim victory alongside them.
wylted wrote:
Lunatic confirmed to me in DMs that zero fake claims were given to anyone so idk why you'd lie about lying. I encourage others to confirm that with him.
WTF, fine I accidentally got the white male pm it was meant to go to a member of the scum team so I utilized it as a fake claim to signal to them I am one of them.
I was trying not to make lunatic look stupid but since he wants to talk shit, here we go. Lunatic fucked up and sent me the wrong PM and I utilized it as a fake claim or whatever.
I have no incentive to lie. I will get lynched for my confession anyway
You've got zero credibility at this point, but on the off chance you're telling the truth about this, it indicates the white male PM was supposed to go to MeowMix, since you two replaced in at the same time.
Are you claiming to be a Lost Wolf then?
