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Mag1cman (2/5): ILikePie5 (p#26), wylted (p#51)
Lunatic (1/5): Banana (p#78)
Not Voting (5): Lunatic, Mag1cman, RexFavilla, whiteflame, Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 4 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
My internet is down i'm standing out in the rain just to tell you this FEEL SPECIAL FEEL HONORED
It was back up by the time I went back inside I don't fucking believe this
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 12:09 PM (post #90)
Ill be going to bed soon, hopefully pie and mharman chip in a bit later. Would be good ot hear more from wryly and whiteflame as well if they are able to venture off of my claim for more than 5 minutes.
It's to be expected with the dearth of other data to analyze, I'm afraid. I don't need a role claim from you though. If you're town you're Bulletproof and if you're scum you wouldn't tell me otherwise anyway. A character claim would help me, though.
Regarding the "yes it is lol" in #76, I'd like you to tell me what roles you think completely overlap between Thoth and Mikal. Also I'm not sure what you mean by #88.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/4/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #28)
Can we make a new rule that even if the person who is inactive is replaced, they should be forced to claim. Otherwise that slot just gets a free pass for now reason
Not sure how I feel about it. If they're scum they're definitely coming in with a big advantage, but it also doesn't seem fair to punish the substitute for the inactivity of the original player.
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Mag1cman (2/5): ILikePie5 (p#26), wylted (p#51)
Lunatic (1/5): Banana (p#78)
Not Voting (5): Lunatic, Mag1cman, RexFavilla, whiteflame, Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 3 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Did you ask Kohai if the other two roles in the list would always be roles that are in the game as well? Mikal's role being in the list indicates at least some of the other players' roles make it into the "joke."
What role justification did Kohai give you?
Nvm apparently I temporarily forgot google exists.
I figured it was obvious, but if you're looking for specifics, I can provide some. The justification references her sharp tongue and wit on stage as a stand-up. She spends the show developing her skills after initially supporting her husband's abortive efforts.
Did you ask Kohai if the other two roles in the list would always be roles that are in the game as well? Mikal's role being in the list indicates at least some of the other players' roles make it into the "joke."
I can be more specific with the question, but when I asked about whether all those roles were in the game, he only said that they could be.
Generally been a busy Sunday, but I do want to dig back through this and the last DP and give some reads when I get a chance.
I do agree with wylted that it's likely a 50/50 situation on Luna, hence my concern about his pushback on the claim.
Apart from that, I'll just give some really basic thoughts for now.
Rex and Mag1c are necessarily going to be tough because of limited posting so far, though that's just a consequence of subbing in/a busy holiday weekend. I like what I've seen from Mag1c so far, harder to read Rex.
Banana's public pronouncement is a point in her favor, though I'm always wary of just auto-townreading roles that I haven't seen given to scum before. It's screwed me over a few times. I think she looks pretty consistent with her usual town behavior so far.
Pie, wylted and Wryly are all the players I mainly want to spend time going through, so I'll withhold thoughts on them for now.
Driving home, I’ll check in in the evening. I skimmed a little.
@WF Can you ask if the other 2 roles given are pre-selected of random ie how does he get the two other roles
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Mag1cman (2/5): ILikePie5 (p#26), wylted (p#51)
Lunatic (1/5): Banana (p#78)
Not Voting (5): Lunatic, Mag1cman, RexFavilla, whiteflame, Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 1 hour.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/5/2026 at 11:28 AM (post #94)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 12:09 PM (post #90)
Ill be going to bed soon, hopefully pie and mharman chip in a bit later. Would be good ot hear more from wryly and whiteflame as well if they are able to venture off of my claim for more than 5 minutes.
It's to be expected with the dearth of other data to analyze, I'm afraid. I don't need a role claim from you though. If you're town you're Bulletproof and if you're scum you wouldn't tell me otherwise anyway. A character claim would help me, though.
I do think my character claim straight up gives away which of the three roles I am unfortunately.
Regarding the "yes it is lol" in #76, I'd like you to tell me what roles you think completely overlap between Thoth and Mikal.
76 is in reference to game balance mechanics that I already know for a fact exist that no one else can know based on my role pm, talking about overlapping mechanics in general. I'd rather not elaborate on this.
Also I'm not sure what you mean by #88.
Im saying he's putting in a role that works like dreamer but with roles, but includes a role that's already flipped, so why would it be out of the question for more than one role to exist? Or was he just straight up being bastard with the mechanics of his role? We should be looking at the existence of more than one role as being possible, and not closing our minds to that possibility is all I am saying.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by wylted on 7/5/2026 at 2:53 PM (post #102)
You haven’t provided a single reason that I am even a lynch option but okay.
If we believe whiteflame, and I was attempting to be polite about this than you are either scum and 100% redirector or town and 100% bulletproof
But you have seen redirector as town. I get that it's also a common scum aligned role, but if I had come out saying I was a town redirector would that be grounds for automatically lynching me?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/5/2026 at 12:47 PM (post #99)
Generally been a busy Sunday, but I do want to dig back through this and the last DP and give some reads when I get a chance.
I do agree with wylted that it's likely a 50/50 situation on Luna, hence my concern about his pushback on the claim.
I still don't completely understand what you mean by pushback, my responses have been fairly robotic. I've directly confirmed I am one of the three roles you posited. Just trying to get you to think outside the box on things you and others may be jumping to preemptive conclusions about is all.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Not to omgus here, but I am really suspicious of the way Banana is acting. I would be suspicious if she voted like that on anyone else, not just suspicious because she voted me. I already wasn't the biggest fan of her Thoth vote.
She has role confirmation going for her, but otherwise her behavior isn't great.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Understood. Bananas role aside, what do you think of her behavior?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Banana's public pronouncement is a point in her favor, though I'm always wary of just auto-townreading roles that I haven't seen given to scum before. It's screwed me over a few times. I think she looks pretty consistent with her usual town behavior so far.
Im actually a bit baffled by this. What about Bananas behavior is in line with her town behavior?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 6:18 PM (post #105)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/5/2026 at 12:47 PM (post #99)
Generally been a busy Sunday, but I do want to dig back through this and the last DP and give some reads when I get a chance.
I do agree with wylted that it's likely a 50/50 situation on Luna, hence my concern about his pushback on the claim.
I still don't completely understand what you mean by pushback, my responses have been fairly robotic. I've directly confirmed I am one of the three roles you posited. Just trying to get you to think outside the box on things you and others may be jumping to preemptive conclusions about is all.
I’ll grant that you’ve confirmed your role is in that group, though recognizing what that includes, I think it’s fair to be suspicious about coasting on that restriction should you be pushed to claim.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 6:30 PM (post #110)
Banana's public pronouncement is a point in her favor, though I'm always wary of just auto-townreading roles that I haven't seen given to scum before. It's screwed me over a few times. I think she looks pretty consistent with her usual town behavior so far.
Im actually a bit baffled by this. What about Bananas behavior is in line with her town behavior?
She tends to show more willingness to make stronger scumreads earlier as town. I also think she would have been more likely to go for an easy lynch on Shining given that Thoth would have been entirely unconfirmable going forward, while Shining’s absence was actively getting him sussed and was almost certain to get him replaced.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/5/2026 at 4:36 PM (post #112)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 6:18 PM (post #105)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/5/2026 at 12:47 PM (post #99)
Generally been a busy Sunday, but I do want to dig back through this and the last DP and give some reads when I get a chance.
I do agree with wylted that it's likely a 50/50 situation on Luna, hence my concern about his pushback on the claim.
I still don't completely understand what you mean by pushback, my responses have been fairly robotic. I've directly confirmed I am one of the three roles you posited. Just trying to get you to think outside the box on things you and others may be jumping to preemptive conclusions about is all.
I’ll grant that you’ve confirmed your role is in that group, though recognizing what that includes, I think it’s fair to be suspicious about coasting on that restriction should you be pushed to claim.
If my claim is still a major topic of discussion by tomorrow to the point where it’s a clear hindrance to the advancement of the game and the ability to pressure other players, I will claim. I wouldn’t be averting to claim if I didn’t see a clear town reason to do so. I would like to see some more scum
hunting from you however, outside of the result.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/5/2026 at 4:40 PM (post #114)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 6:30 PM (post #110)
Banana's public pronouncement is a point in her favor, though I'm always wary of just auto-townreading roles that I haven't seen given to scum before. It's screwed me over a few times. I think she looks pretty consistent with her usual town behavior so far.
Im actually a bit baffled by this. What about Bananas behavior is in line with her town behavior?
She tends to show more willingness to make stronger scumreads earlier as town. I also think she would have been more likely to go for an easy lynch on Shining given that Thoth would have been entirely unconfirmable going forward, while Shining’s absence was actively getting him sussed and was almost certain to get him replaced.
Knowing Thoth was town he seems like the ideal mislynch though. It’s something scum could never confidently kill, and if people decided to town read him he was secure to live until lylo.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
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Mag1cman (1/5): ILikePie5 (p#26)
Lunatic (1/5): Banana (p#78)
Not Voting (6): Lunatic, Mag1cman, RexFavilla, whiteflame, Wryly, wylted (p#117)
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 1 day, 22 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
If my claim is still a major topic of discussion by tomorrow to the point where it’s a clear hindrance to the advancement of the game and the ability to pressure other players, I will claim. I wouldn’t be averting to claim if I didn’t see a clear town reason to do so.
Alright, I'm open to hearing from others on that score.
I would like to see some more scum hunting from you however, outside of the result.
Still working on a read set.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 6:43 PM (post #116)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/5/2026 at 4:40 PM (post #114)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/5/2026 at 6:30 PM (post #110)
Banana's public pronouncement is a point in her favor, though I'm always wary of just auto-townreading roles that I haven't seen given to scum before. It's screwed me over a few times. I think she looks pretty consistent with her usual town behavior so far.
Im actually a bit baffled by this. What about Bananas behavior is in line with her town behavior?
She tends to show more willingness to make stronger scumreads earlier as town. I also think she would have been more likely to go for an easy lynch on Shining given that Thoth would have been entirely unconfirmable going forward, while Shining’s absence was actively getting him sussed and was almost certain to get him replaced.
Knowing Thoth was town he seems like the ideal mislynch though. It’s something scum could never confidently kill, and if people decided to town read him he was secure to live until lylo.
I agree that he didn't do himself any favors, but he could have been mislynched at any time. Shining was an unknown based on inactivity, something that either he could have resolved later or his replacement could resolve. Both lynches were justifiable.
