Candace Owens Cinematic Universe DP1

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/19/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #120)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 8:28 PM (post #116)

VTL: whiteflame

Scum again? WYA

Working on a debate round, but yeah, I’m still here. Apologies for the limited posting, debate’s moved fast.

Fair. Thought you forgot about us

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 8:52 PM (post #121)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/19/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #120)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 8:28 PM (post #116)

VTL: whiteflame

Scum again? WYA

Working on a debate round, but yeah, I’m still here. Apologies for the limited posting, debate’s moved fast.

Fair. Thought you forgot about us

I’ll do some quick responses before it gets too late. Doesn’t seem like a lot has come up, but doesn’t mean I’m going to sit back and do nothing.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/19/2026 at 8:59 PM (post #122)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 8:52 PM (post #121)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/19/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #120)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 8:28 PM (post #116)

VTL: whiteflame

Scum again? WYA

Working on a debate round, but yeah, I’m still here. Apologies for the limited posting, debate’s moved fast.

Fair. Thought you forgot about us

I’ll do some quick responses before it gets too late. Doesn’t seem like a lot has come up, but doesn’t mean I’m going to sit back and do nothing.

Yeah this game is moving at a snail's pace.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/19/2026 at 12:42 PM (post #92)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 11:24 AM (post #89)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 12:22 PM (post #87)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 12:18 PM (post #86)

I'm confused anyway. How is Hated a free kill for scum?

Hated goes to Mylo / LyLo if hated doesn't deactive scum get a quick hammer and a win

But Pie's saying his does disable at MYLO/LYLO, which now that I think about it is the only way that role even remotely deserves to exist.

The only way it doesn’t is if Town misfire a Vig, in which case it’s 4-2 at DP2, which is retarded. But even if that were the case, scum couldn’t quickhammer me because I would need 3 votes to be lynched. Only way we auto lose on DP2 is if Vig misfires AND scum have a second NK. Which makes zero sense

So I took a look back through your explanation. Besides the possibility of the Vig (unclear how likely that is), the main thing that's bothering me is that, if we do eliminate one member of the scum team, the calculus changes, placing us at MYLO/LYLO one DP later (assuming a DP2 successful lynch, it goes from 7-2 --> 5-2 --> 4-1 at DP3). I don't want to make too big of a deal out of it, since that's less the point and more that it's odd your PM would specify a DP instead of MYLO/LYLO, though maybe that's just because of all the issues we've already covered with determining when those start. Anyway, not sussing the claim rn, but I am mulling over it.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 2:44 PM (post #97)

Yeah I don't really buy that Mikal has seen "few Hateds that deactivate at all". Seems like Hateds that deactivate should be a common occurrence.

I've seen it both ways. If it doesn't deactivate, then the Hated is a default lynch before MYLO/LYLO. If it does, then no worries. Been a while since I've seen the former, usually falls into the latter camp these days.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 5:29 PM (post #110)

whiteflame - Null. Measured and neutral as always. Hesitates to jump on the #SacrificePie! movement, but he'd do that as either alignment.

Fair. I think it would be stranger if anyone has a hard read on me atm, don't think I've done anything to stand out in either direction.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 7:27 PM (post #111)

Ode to the Lost Like Button of Mafia

What joy you brought me

In times of stress

My ego boost

My time saver

My "read" sign

Oh the glory days

When a post would hit 5, 6, 7 likes

The heart leaping higher with each number

And the soul could rejoice

that success had landed

mirth was shared or shrewdness acknowledged

Then the mods came

Eyes red, truncheons bouncing in hand

With swift cruelty they stole you from me

My ego boost

My time saver

My "read" sign

I look to where you were

And see only "quote", "reply"

This minimalist nothing

Where posts stand naked, unadorned

Blank henges hulking silent on the hill

Guys I am so bored

Well, this just made my evening, so thank you.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 8:28 PM (post #115)

A reminder that I will be with grandma at the hospital all day tomorrow, though I will still post when I can during wait times. Or maybe I'll just let Rex replace me since it seems like town is gonna sleepwalk to a big fat L. Your ELO doesn't change if you only play a partial game, right?

Priorities where they have to be. Hopefully replacement isn't necessary, though I haven't made a habit of punishing players that opt out early when I enter results.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/19/2026 at 10:19 AM (post #71)

I figured it was a pretty obvious joke, though I couldn't put it past Rex to include something absurd just for shits and giggles.

Right. This theme is an obvious joke. You can't assume that an absurd claim didn't come from Rex.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/19/2026 at 10:41 AM (post #76)

Nice shade

I didn't mean that as shade, just as an observation.

Again, I don't really see the point of a Hated that deactivates before it could give scum a free mislynch. If we weren't going to lynch a Hated claimant, we would cast their votes so as to avoid lynching them, and if we were going to lynch them, they would get lynched anyway. The numbers change, but how we should coordinate our votes does not. It's like the whole purpose of the role is just to be SOP-claimable, unless we are so retarded that we all independently swing around votes without worrying about coordination or the risk of a mislynch. A Hated that doesn't deactivate when scum can freely mislynch them is probably too dangerous to put in a game.

cast our * votes

Originally Posted by wylted on 7/19/2026 at 11:01 AM (post #83)

If there is a big it's Erika Kirk tbh, given Candice's theories

Theories about?

I may not have thought for long enough to recognize the Candace Owens' left tit claim as a joke, but I can look at Abby Shapiro's tits for hours

You said in #8 that your Hated deactivates on DP3. Later, it sounded like you were saying it deactivates at MYLO/LYLO. Did you say DP3 because you figured that's when we would hit MYLO/LYLO?

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 2:01 PM (post #100)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 7/19/2026 at 2:56 PM (post #99)

My top two scum picks for this game would have been ben and Erica so there is also that

males sense with how much conspiracy Owens has been pushing at them

Lmao is this some meta-conspiracy shit where Candace Owens accuses them of being controlled opposition?

Originally Posted by wylted on 7/19/2026 at 2:31 PM (post #104)

If I put hateds in a game, I personally would not want them to deactivate at mylo, merely because I want to encourage not claiming these negative utility roles long term.

That would be all the more reason to claim them in advance.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 4:29 PM (post #110)

wylted - I don't know what to make of his bullshit about my left titty joke or whether he even is Candace Owens. I feel like there's no way he didn't get that I was joking, or at least I would have said so before Thoth and Kohai and Pie seemed to entertain the notion that I might not be joking.

I never doubted that you were joking, just whether it was your joke or Rex's.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 6:27 PM (post #111)

What joy you brought me

In times of stress

My ego boost

My time saver

My "read" sign

Oh the glory days

When a post would hit 5, 6, 7 likes

The heart leaping higher with each number

And the soul could rejoice

that success had landed

mirth was shared or shrewdness acknowledged

Then the mods came

Eyes red, truncheons bouncing in hand

With swift cruelty they stole you from me

My ego boost

My time saver

My "read" sign

I look to where you were

And see only "quote", "reply"

This minimalist nothing

Where posts stand naked, unadorned

Blank henges hulking silent on the hill

I tried to post a like button image but idk if it came through or not

There's not nearly as much for me to base reads on as I would like. Kohai's wild assumptions about game balance are NAI. Pie's Hated claim can't be safely tested. Mikal's claim-not-claim and insistence that we kill Pie strike me as scummier than anyone else.

Under most circumstances, I would call this anti-town, but I am halfway tempted to suggest we force a claim out of a random person just to advance the game. Make the iron hot by striking and whatnot.

Does anyone else see wylted as basically an Innocent Child for an un-CC'd claim to the main character? I'm puzzled as to why this hasn't been brought up. Did you all think that this was too obvious to merit pointing out?

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Wryly (1/5): wylted (p#3)

Lunatic (1/5): ILikePie5 (p#94)

Vader (1/5): Thoth (p#55)

ILikePie5 (1/5): Mikal (p#63)

whiteflame (1/5): Kohai (p#116)

Not Voting (4): Lunatic, Vader, whiteflame, Wryly

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 1 day, 5 hours.

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Vader (2/5): Thoth (p#55), wylted (p#142)

Lunatic (1/5): ILikePie5 (p#94)

ILikePie5 (1/5): Mikal (p#63)

whiteflame (1/5): Kohai (p#116)

Not Voting (4): Lunatic, Vader, whiteflame, Wryly

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 1 day, 1 hour.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 1:29 AM (post #129)

Again, I don't really see the point of a Hated that deactivates before it could give scum a free mislynch. If we weren't going to lynch a Hated claimant, we would cast their votes so as to avoid lynching them, and if we were going to lynch them, they would get lynched anyway. The numbers change, but how we should coordinate our votes does not. It's like the whole purpose of the role is just to be SOP-claimable, unless we are so retarded that we all independently swing around votes without worrying about coordination or the risk of a mislynch. A Hated that doesn't deactivate when scum can freely mislynch them is probably too dangerous to put in a game.

Like I said, I've seen both versions in the game before. I agree that the version that deactivates at a certain point is mainly there to be SOP claimable.

The big question is, do we think that Pie might fake this claim? Initially, I would have said yes. I think we have to have some doubt over it by default since it's a relatively safe claim to give. He did out it early, but then there's that DP3 deactivation, which I've never seen before.

The more I've thought about it, though, the more I buy the claim. I don't think Pie inserts the DP3 deactivation into a fake claim, that seems like something done by a mod who wants to prevent similar problems to those we encountered with the Popular deactivating at MYLO last game. I've got a slight town lean on him for that and some minor behavioral reads. I'm willing to revisit him later in the game, but at least for this DP, I find him believable.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 1:51 AM (post #139)

There's not nearly as much for me to base reads on as I would like. Kohai's wild assumptions about game balance are NAI. Pie's Hated claim can't be safely tested. Mikal's claim-not-claim and insistence that we kill Pie strike me as scummier than anyone else.

Under most circumstances, I would call this anti-town, but I am halfway tempted to suggest we force a claim out of a random person just to advance the game. Make the iron hot by striking and whatnot.

I'll have to write up a set of reads sometime today. I'm null on Kohai atm, a little sus of Mikal jumping that hard on Pie as well, though that would not be terribly unusual for him as town, either.

As for forcing a claim out of someone... we've already got a couple of claims, and I'm hesitant to just go fishing for more at random. I'd like Mikal to explain his softclaim from earlier, which might require him to provide a character claim or even a role claim, so that's where I'm putting my attention right now.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 1:56 AM (post #140)

Does anyone else see wylted as basically an Innocent Child for an un-CC'd claim to the main character? I'm puzzled as to why this hasn't been brought up. Did you all think that this was too obvious to merit pointing out?

I didn't want to draw attention to it. Given that Candace Owens is almost certainly in this game, it's not a question of whether that claim is real or not, it's a question of whether it's town or not. I made Barry scum and he was the title character of that game, so I don't think we should make any assumptions based on Wylted's CC.

Originally Posted by wylted on 7/20/2026 at 8:27 AM (post #142)

I don't like the deflection from wryly even if it was a joke

Where is vader? He is essentially lingering

UNVOTE

VTL: Vader

Not clear what the deflection was or why it stands out to you.

As for Vader, sure, I'd like to see more from him. He tends to vanish, so we shouldn't let him coast.

Sorry I have more thoughts but the World Cup distracted. Might be pockets too since I’m at work

Alright finally gonna take a look at this game. Just a heads up I’m not too familiar with Candace Owens

Originally Posted by wylted on 7/18/2026 at 9:27 AM (post #5)

You would like Candace nick fuentes, ben Shapiro and Glenn beck hate her, which automatically makes her somebody you would like

My parents brain washing me into loving Glenn Beck as a teen lol. Dudes mental

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/18/2026 at 10:51 AM (post #8)

I’m here, going to SOP claim.

I am Ben Shapiro and I am Hated Townie, meaning I take one less vote to lynch. Effect ends DP3. Justification is that I undermined Charlie and harassed Candace and am hated by people on the right

lEtS tEsT iT