Majora's Mask Mafia - Final Day

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/16/2026 at 4:00 PM (post #36)

Whoever the TP is, please reveal yourself and take the win with Town. Make ours and your life easier

I have tried this with town as TP and they are just too stupid to ever cooperate even at the cost of themselves.

I'm not talkining about situations where I might be scum claiming it. I am talking about situations where they were reasonably certain I was TP and still lost an ally by being stupid

I’ve literally used a Day Vig as proof I was TP, shot a target that one of the most townread player wanted me to, and got lynched regardless because FML. I’d really like to change that dynamic at some point, but it requires a degree of trust that I’m not sure enough people can muster.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/16/2026 at 5:30 PM (post #43)

It also feels like “we can’t trust flips” is the type of thing scum would say to fit in after someone revealed Tailor is possible

I don’t understand this. So speaking to the obvious is scummy? I’m pretty sure it’s something we’re all thinking.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/16/2026 at 5:31 PM (post #44)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 16/08/2026 at 17:42 (post #23)

At least as a tailor.

Tael could be scum. Maybe since im tied to him. It could be bad info but doubt it

Wdym you’re tied to him?

They're both fairies in the game that develop a friendly relationship with Skull Kid before he gets taken over by Majora. One sticks with him (Tael), the other goes to Link (Tatl).

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/16/2026 at 5:34 PM (post #45)

I too think third party should reveal but they probably won’t, it depends on their win condition, they could be pretty much anything that doesn’t have to see Town lose in order to win

Except that we know based on the OP that the TP can win with town or scum. Throwing their lot in with town now lends them a lot of credence. Throwing it in later would probably be a different story.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/16/2026 at 9:51 PM (post #52)

Magoroth's posts mega sus let's get his claim

VTL: Magoroth

I’m hesitant to go with you on this. It’s a weird basis for sussing Banana, but I think it’s NAI based on how I’ve seen Magoroth behave before. Can’t tell what his aim is, but his argument is weak.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 17/08/2026 at 15:11 (post #62)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/16/2026 at 5:30 PM (post #43)

It also feels like “we can’t trust flips” is the type of thing scum would say to fit in after someone revealed Tailor is possible

I don’t understand this. So speaking to the obvious is scummy? I’m pretty sure it’s something we’re all thinking.

No, its not true, we can mostly trust flips, there’s literally like one flip maybe that we can’t trust, saying otherwise is anti-town as hell

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 10:07 AM (post #65)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 17/08/2026 at 15:11 (post #62)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/16/2026 at 5:30 PM (post #43)

It also feels like “we can’t trust flips” is the type of thing scum would say to fit in after someone revealed Tailor is possible

I don’t understand this. So speaking to the obvious is scummy? I’m pretty sure it’s something we’re all thinking.

No, its not true, we can mostly trust flips, there’s literally like one flip maybe that we can’t trust, saying otherwise is anti-town as hell

If the information is correct that there is a Tailor, then there is precisely one flip we cannot trust. Considering it's early in the game and we necessarily have limited claim information, we should be interrogating flips closely, so while objectively you're correct that most flips will be accurate, I don't agree that that means we can just trust the flips we see nor that calling out the uncertainty "is anti-town as hell". It's a normal reaction to the existence of a Tailor in the game. It's fine if you have a different reaction, but speaking as someone who largely shares Banana's perspective, I don't agree with your view.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/17/2026 at 7:10 AM (post #61)

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/16/2026 at 4:00 PM (post #36)

Whoever the TP is, please reveal yourself and take the win with Town. Make ours and your life easier

I have tried this with town as TP and they are just too stupid to ever cooperate even at the cost of themselves.

I'm not talkining about situations where I might be scum claiming it. I am talking about situations where they were reasonably certain I was TP and still lost an ally by being stupid

I’ve literally used a Day Vig as proof I was TP, shot a target that one of the most townread player wanted me to, and got lynched regardless because FML. I’d really like to change that dynamic at some point, but it requires a degree of trust that I’m not sure enough people can muster.

Its probably a lazy thing, why hunt for scum when you can lynch one guaranteed lol. Im always okay with complying with third party, until one tries to screw us over.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #65)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 17/08/2026 at 15:11 (post #62)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/16/2026 at 5:30 PM (post #43)

It also feels like “we can’t trust flips” is the type of thing scum would say to fit in after someone revealed Tailor is possible

I don’t understand this. So speaking to the obvious is scummy? I’m pretty sure it’s something we’re all thinking.

No, its not true, we can mostly trust flips, there’s literally like one flip maybe that we can’t trust, saying otherwise is anti-town as hell

You are really making a mountain out of a molehill here buddy

I think she’s scum and the statement and the way she said it pings me, there’s nothing else to go on and its early d1, I don’t think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill. Could I be wrong? Yes; I don’t think so at all, but even if I am at least it gives us something to talk about, and yes I do really think that statement is scummy as hell, nobody else said it btw

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #69)

I think she’s scum and the statement and the way she said it pings me, there’s nothing else to go on and its early d1, I don’t think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill. Could I be wrong? Yes; I don’t think so at all, but even if I am at least it gives us something to talk about, and yes I do really think that statement is scummy as hell, nobody else said it btw

someone says there is a tailor, i say to not trust flips. unless there’s a reason to believe he’s lying for some reason seems a reasonable response to that

Originally Posted by Banana on 17/08/2026 at 17:38 (post #70)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #69)

I think she’s scum and the statement and the way she said it pings me, there’s nothing else to go on and its early d1, I don’t think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill. Could I be wrong? Yes; I don’t think so at all, but even if I am at least it gives us something to talk about, and yes I do really think that statement is scummy as hell, nobody else said it btw

someone says there is a tailor, i say to not trust flips. unless there’s a reason to believe he’s lying for some reason seems a reasonable response to that

If we don’t trust flips, might as well not play the game anymore. Someone acts scummy and they flip scum, I will assume they are scum, barring serious evidence of the contrary. This is literally a recipe for destroying the whole town. I’ve seen people lose games with this mentality. And you’re just saying that’s what you’d do? Nah, you’re scum

It’s one thing to be skeptical; if someone acts scummy and they flip town, yeah maybe there is room for doubt, even if they flip town and act towny you can allow some doubt, but saying you can’t trust flips is just anti-town as fuck

So yeah vote Banana pretty please?

Like I said this is the type of statement that 1) sows confusion and 2) scum would say to keep themselves involved and appear to be interested in the game/solving the game. Please vote her.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 10:14 AM (post #72)

Originally Posted by Banana on 17/08/2026 at 17:38 (post #70)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #69)

I think she’s scum and the statement and the way she said it pings me, there’s nothing else to go on and its early d1, I don’t think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill. Could I be wrong? Yes; I don’t think so at all, but even if I am at least it gives us something to talk about, and yes I do really think that statement is scummy as hell, nobody else said it btw

someone says there is a tailor, i say to not trust flips. unless there’s a reason to believe he’s lying for some reason seems a reasonable response to that

If we don’t trust flips, might as well not play the game anymore. Someone acts scummy and they flip scum, I will assume they are scum, barring serious evidence of the contrary. This is literally a recipe for destroying the whole town. I’ve seen people lose games with this mentality. And you’re just saying that’s what you’d do? Nah, you’re scum

u r blowing this out of proportion lol. how about I rephrase it to “take flips with a grain of salt” if it’s the wording that’s tripping u up. if there’s a tailor it’s a given

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 10:46 AM (post #75)

Like I said this is the type of statement that 1) sows confusion and 2) scum would say to keep themselves involved and appear to be interested in the game/solving the game. Please vote her.

so u believe mikal that there’s a tailor but u also think that the tailor just isn’t gonna use there role? i am sorry but i dont get ur logic.

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Shining (1/6): ILikePie5 (p#21)

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It’s one thing to be skeptical; if someone acts scummy and they flip town, yeah maybe there is room for doubt, even if they flip town and act towny you can allow some doubt, but saying you can’t trust flips is just anti-town as fuck

So... you just don't like that she was being absolutist with the statement? How she said it doesn't really bother me.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 12:46 PM (post #75)

Like I said this is the type of statement that 1) sows confusion and 2) scum would say to keep themselves involved and appear to be interested in the game/solving the game. Please vote her.

I legitimately do not understand how this is meant to sow confusion. All of us have played with Tailors before and everyone else gets what she was trying to say. I'll admit that it's not the kind of thing you have to actually post for people to get it, but I can't say I see it as performative.

Originally Posted by Banana on 17/08/2026 at 19:23 (post #76)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 10:14 AM (post #72)

Originally Posted by Banana on 17/08/2026 at 17:38 (post #70)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #69)

I think she’s scum and the statement and the way she said it pings me, there’s nothing else to go on and its early d1, I don’t think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill. Could I be wrong? Yes; I don’t think so at all, but even if I am at least it gives us something to talk about, and yes I do really think that statement is scummy as hell, nobody else said it btw

someone says there is a tailor, i say to not trust flips. unless there’s a reason to believe he’s lying for some reason seems a reasonable response to that

If we don’t trust flips, might as well not play the game anymore. Someone acts scummy and they flip scum, I will assume they are scum, barring serious evidence of the contrary. This is literally a recipe for destroying the whole town. I’ve seen people lose games with this mentality. And you’re just saying that’s what you’d do? Nah, you’re scum

u r blowing this out of proportion lol. how about I rephrase it to “take flips with a grain of salt” if it’s the wording that’s tripping u up. if there’s a tailor it’s a given

Then why didn’t you say it like that at the start?

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 17/08/2026 at 20:09 (post #79)

It’s one thing to be skeptical; if someone acts scummy and they flip town, yeah maybe there is room for doubt, even if they flip town and act towny you can allow some doubt, but saying you can’t trust flips is just anti-town as fuck

So... you just don't like that she was being absolutist with the statement? How she said it doesn't really bother me.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 12:46 PM (post #75)

Like I said this is the type of statement that 1) sows confusion and 2) scum would say to keep themselves involved and appear to be interested in the game/solving the game. Please vote her.

I legitimately do not understand how this is meant to sow confusion. All of us have played with Tailors before and everyone else gets what she was trying to say. I'll admit that it's not the kind of thing you have to actually post for people to get it, but I can't say I see it as performative.

Because if we can’t trust flips then that removes a huge amount of information from the game

Banana and Maggie feels like TvT to be honest.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 2:58 PM (post #81)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 17/08/2026 at 20:09 (post #79)

It’s one thing to be skeptical; if someone acts scummy and they flip town, yeah maybe there is room for doubt, even if they flip town and act towny you can allow some doubt, but saying you can’t trust flips is just anti-town as fuck

So... you just don't like that she was being absolutist with the statement? How she said it doesn't really bother me.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 12:46 PM (post #75)

Like I said this is the type of statement that 1) sows confusion and 2) scum would say to keep themselves involved and appear to be interested in the game/solving the game. Please vote her.

I legitimately do not understand how this is meant to sow confusion. All of us have played with Tailors before and everyone else gets what she was trying to say. I'll admit that it's not the kind of thing you have to actually post for people to get it, but I can't say I see it as performative.

Because if we can’t trust flips then that removes a huge amount of information from the game

Except the fact that she said it doesn't suddenly mean we'll discount all flips. You're really harping on this and I don't see the harm that Banana has caused by mentioning her distrust.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 12:58 PM (post #80)

Originally Posted by Banana on 17/08/2026 at 19:23 (post #76)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 10:14 AM (post #72)

Originally Posted by Banana on 17/08/2026 at 17:38 (post #70)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/17/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #69)

I think she’s scum and the statement and the way she said it pings me, there’s nothing else to go on and its early d1, I don’t think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill. Could I be wrong? Yes; I don’t think so at all, but even if I am at least it gives us something to talk about, and yes I do really think that statement is scummy as hell, nobody else said it btw

someone says there is a tailor, i say to not trust flips. unless there’s a reason to believe he’s lying for some reason seems a reasonable response to that

If we don’t trust flips, might as well not play the game anymore. Someone acts scummy and they flip scum, I will assume they are scum, barring serious evidence of the contrary. This is literally a recipe for destroying the whole town. I’ve seen people lose games with this mentality. And you’re just saying that’s what you’d do? Nah, you’re scum

u r blowing this out of proportion lol. how about I rephrase it to “take flips with a grain of salt” if it’s the wording that’s tripping u up. if there’s a tailor it’s a given

Then why didn’t you say it like that at the start?

bcuz I’m an evil maniacal mafia member plotting ur demise and sowing seeds of doubt ig just like u suggested silly person lol

we are losing a bit of time, more than half dp is already up. it’s too bad this has been the only discussion that’s been had so far. anyone else wanna participate or should we hyper focus on one thing all day?

I don't think this is a useful way to spend our time, either. I've got enough to do that I'll be busy for the next couple of hours, but I'll aim to get some more discussion going after I get back.

VTL: whiteflame

I feel like, if there’s a scum in Shining/Mag1cman, there’s only one scum; they aren’t paired. Shining seems to have made a seamless transition between saying I was probably Town to considering what Mag1cman had to say about me and then expessing doubts at his previous read. Yes, it’s not a very strong read, but it strikes me as the type of thing you wouldn’t do with a partner, it feels too organic/real/not fake

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Let’s vote shining. Lock him into a claim early