From mafia - Game Over

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:57 AM (post #239)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 6:59 AM (post #223)

2.5 hours left

And your holding the day phase hostage by not claiming? How would you treat anyone else doing this?

I would’ve claimed, but you were literally like, I’m fine lynching him anyways. Nice way to get somebody to claim lol

Do we have plurality lynching or what happens if we don’t get a majority?

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 7:57 AM (post #238)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:55 AM (post #236)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 7:51 AM (post #234)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:49 AM (post #232)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 6:26 AM (post #214)

Honestly, though, yall frustrate me sometimes. Pie is not as active, he’s scum. Pie is active, he must be scum. Pie refuses to claim, so lynch him anyways. Oh wait other people refuse to L-1, let’s move on from them.

Sounds like PDS to me - Pie Derangement Syndrome

No one mentioned your activity so you are projecting. We have policy lynched people for inactivity plenty of time, but it’s something we do in absence of other reads. You are the other read in this situation. Intimidation tactics can’t always save you.

Im talking the previous game lol where I almost got lynched while sleeping. Regardless, we’re at an impasse, and I’m willing to compromise to move on

The last game was entirely inactive dp1 until like the last two hours. We’d have had to have policy lynched everyone to get out of that conundrum. Regardless what compromise are you talking about? Are you going to claim?

Im not going to full claim, but we can meet in the middle. I’m willing to soft claim

Yeah lol. I don’t negotiate with terrorists. We can just lynch you and find out your flip if you want to play it this way.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:58 AM (post #240)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 7:57 AM (post #238)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:55 AM (post #236)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 7:51 AM (post #234)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:49 AM (post #232)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 6:26 AM (post #214)

Honestly, though, yall frustrate me sometimes. Pie is not as active, he’s scum. Pie is active, he must be scum. Pie refuses to claim, so lynch him anyways. Oh wait other people refuse to L-1, let’s move on from them.

Sounds like PDS to me - Pie Derangement Syndrome

No one mentioned your activity so you are projecting. We have policy lynched people for inactivity plenty of time, but it’s something we do in absence of other reads. You are the other read in this situation. Intimidation tactics can’t always save you.

Im talking the previous game lol where I almost got lynched while sleeping. Regardless, we’re at an impasse, and I’m willing to compromise to move on

The last game was entirely inactive dp1 until like the last two hours. We’d have had to have policy lynched everyone to get out of that conundrum. Regardless what compromise are you talking about? Are you going to claim?

Im not going to full claim, but we can meet in the middle. I’m willing to soft claim

You are at L-2, with a fast expiring day phase. You don’t hold the bargaining chips you think you do. At most you get lucky and people will be too inactive to hammer you.

I mean if you’re just going to tunnel me, I have no reason to acquiesce to your request. You’re holding a double standard. REF gets away with it every time. Thoth got away with it lol

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/28/2026 at 8:59 AM (post #242)

Do we have plurality lynching or what happens if we don’t get a majority?

Pretty sure it ends in a no lynch

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 7:59 AM (post #241)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:57 AM (post #239)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 6:59 AM (post #223)

2.5 hours left

And your holding the day phase hostage by not claiming? How would you treat anyone else doing this?

I would’ve claimed, but you were literally like, I’m fine lynching him anyways. Nice way to get somebody to claim lol

Your claim doesn’t just convince one person, it convinces every person voting you. If you are unwilling to do it for me, do it to convince them. Or be lynched. I asked you how you would treat anyone else doing this, and you chose not to answer. That’s pretty telling.

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Pie wants to die on this hill. Let’s oblige him.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:01 AM (post #246)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 7:59 AM (post #241)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 8:57 AM (post #239)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 6:59 AM (post #223)

2.5 hours left

And your holding the day phase hostage by not claiming? How would you treat anyone else doing this?

I would’ve claimed, but you were literally like, I’m fine lynching him anyways. Nice way to get somebody to claim lol

Your claim doesn’t just convince one person, it convinces every person voting you. If you are unwilling to do it for me, do it to convince them. Or be lynched. I asked you how you would treat anyone else doing this, and you chose not to answer. That’s pretty telling.

Im not going to lynch the most active dude for refusing to claim with 3 votes over someone who has been AWOL all day. Common sense lol. Youre just obsessed with your tunnel that basically only two people agree with. One is Thoth who basically has gone AWOL, and the other is a guy who is notorious for being scum when he’s inactive

Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once or lynch the active townie who’s being tunneled, so much so that he said he doesn’t care even if I claim. Use your common sense folks

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:01 AM (post #247)

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

Lynch the dude who is acting differently than he normally does by tunneling someone for the oddest reason, giving kohai a pass when he normally pushes him d1, and instead trying to intimidate people away from lynching him even though he would never give someone else the same pass in his shoes.

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Translation: Lynch completely randomly to get attention off himself, ignoring the fact that Casey is equally inactive.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:01 AM (post #248)

Pie wants to die on this hill. Let’s oblige him.

Lol, you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim. And by doing so, you’re purposely splitting the lynch and going closer to a no lynch, which only benefits scum

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:04 AM (post #251)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:01 AM (post #247)

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

Lynch the dude who is acting differently than he normally does by tunneling someone for the oddest reason, giving kohai a pass when he normally pushes him d1, and instead trying to intimidate people away from lynching him even though he would never give someone else the same pass in his shoes.

The reason is common sense in wanting to solve Thoth early because he’s always an odd ball. Wow, is it really rocket science?

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Translation: Lynch completely randomly to get attention off himself, ignoring the fact that Casey is equally inactive.

im fine lynching Casey too lol. Want to switch to her lmfao? Bffr

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:05 AM (post #252)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:01 AM (post #248)

Pie wants to die on this hill. Let’s oblige him.

Lol, you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim. And by doing so, you’re purposely splitting the lynch and going closer to a no lynch, which only benefits scum

Before you chose intimidation tactics by claiming you would wait til l-1 I would have been happy to move on after a claim.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:07 AM (post #255)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:05 AM (post #252)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:01 AM (post #248)

Pie wants to die on this hill. Let’s oblige him.

Lol, you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim. And by doing so, you’re purposely splitting the lynch and going closer to a no lynch, which only benefits scum

Before you chose intimidation tactics by claiming you would wait til l-1 I would have been happy to move on after a claim.

Oh no no no. You said that long before we got this far. At this point you’re actively letting a No Lynch happen. If anyone is the terrorist, it’s you. I’m fine claiming first thing tomorrow. I’m willing to compromise. You’re like no. Die.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

Also L-1 is not an intimidation tactic. It ensures there’s at least 2 townies wanting a claim from you. It’s golden rule. Common sense. I never said I’m refusing to claim at L-1. I wholeheartedly and happily will, as I’ve done all the time

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:06 AM (post #254)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:04 AM (post #251)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:01 AM (post #247)

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

Lynch the dude who is acting differently than he normally does by tunneling someone for the oddest reason, giving kohai a pass when he normally pushes him d1, and instead trying to intimidate people away from lynching him even though he would never give someone else the same pass in his shoes.

The reason is common sense in wanting to solve Thoth early because he’s always an odd ball. Wow, is it really rocket science?

"Always the oddball" is kind of vague, and could apply to plenty of other people as well. You could arguably make a more compelling case for that in wylted or mago as well. You have done it ad nauseum with kohai.

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Translation: Lynch completely randomly to get attention off himself, ignoring the fact that Casey is equally inactive.

im fine lynching Casey too lol. Want to switch to her lmfao? Bffr

If I let you off the hook for not claiming, and you end up being scum I am never gonna forgive myself for getting played lol so no.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:14 AM (post #259)

Also L-1 is not an intimidation tactic. It ensures there’s at least 2 townies wanting a claim from you. It’s golden rule. Common sense. I never said I’m refusing to claim at L-1. I wholeheartedly and happily will, as I’ve done all the time

You are going to be a major interest for the rest of the game. If you are town, mafia will be paranoid of you anyway for your resistance to claiming and holding the day phase hostage til the last hour and a half. There is 0 benefit for you as town to be doing this. There is benefit to stalling your claim if you are scum however. Waiting for POE to narrow down helps with finding a role to fit whatever fake character you got, assuming scum chose the characters and not the questions. You don't want to be locked into a claim, have town decide its scummy, and press you for a role whilst you are unprepared for it.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:16 AM (post #261)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Soft claiming isn't a compromise, its a cop out that lets you get away with it. Thoth didn't have a good reason to claim. You are the only person who seems to genuinely scum read him. Wylted and kohai are on that wagon and seem to be more or less bandwagoning you, where as the people voting you actually seem to scum read you. The difference in the quality of the wagon make up is staggering.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:15 AM (post #260)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:06 AM (post #254)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:04 AM (post #251)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:01 AM (post #247)

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

Lynch the dude who is acting differently than he normally does by tunneling someone for the oddest reason, giving kohai a pass when he normally pushes him d1, and instead trying to intimidate people away from lynching him even though he would never give someone else the same pass in his shoes.

The reason is common sense in wanting to solve Thoth early because he’s always an odd ball. Wow, is it really rocket science?

"Always the oddball" is kind of vague, and could apply to plenty of other people as well. You could arguably make a more compelling case for that in wylted or mago as well. You have done it ad nauseum with kohai.

Many people including you I believe have explicitly told me in DMs that he’s straight weird and odd. Wylted is a smart guy. Mago is a smart guy. Are you really comparing them to Thoth? Kohai I agree with you. He was next on the list, but there was more to work with Thoth

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Translation: Lynch completely randomly to get attention off himself, ignoring the fact that Casey is equally inactive.

im fine lynching Casey too lol. Want to switch to her lmfao? Bffr

If I let you off the hook for not claiming, and you end up being scum I am never gonna forgive myself for getting played lol so no.

Im not playing you. Literally just use basic logic. It’s back to the whole Vanilla thing. Just cause I think different and want to cover my bases doesn’t mean I’m scum. The logic only to you is bad. It made sense to Mag1c in both cases I believe. Like literally just look at how hard you’re tunneling me

1 hour remainin guys

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:18 AM (post #262)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:14 AM (post #259)

Also L-1 is not an intimidation tactic. It ensures there’s at least 2 townies wanting a claim from you. It’s golden rule. Common sense. I never said I’m refusing to claim at L-1. I wholeheartedly and happily will, as I’ve done all the time

You are going to be a major interest for the rest of the game. If you are town, mafia will be paranoid of you anyway for your resistance to claiming and holding the day phase hostage til the last hour and a half. There is 0 benefit for you as town to be doing this. There is benefit to stalling your claim if you are scum however. Waiting for POE to narrow down helps with finding a role to fit whatever fake character you got, assuming scum chose the characters and not the questions. You don't want to be locked into a claim, have town decide its scummy, and press you for a role whilst you are unprepared for it.

You and I both know that as scum I have claims prepared and ready to go. And if scum want to keep me alive, Godspeed to them because I will sniff em out. It’s better than just being NKed NP1 every single time.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #263)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:16 AM (post #261)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Soft claiming isn't a compromise, its a cop out that lets you get away with it. Thoth didn't have a good reason to claim. You are the only person who seems to genuinely scum read him. Wylted and kohai are on that wagon and seem to be more or less bandwagoning you, where as the people voting you actually seem to scum read you. The difference in the quality of the wagon make up is staggering.

Lol really? I’ll let you decide how you want me to soft claim. Something only you would know. Your wagon literally has Mago who hasn’t done anything. And then Thoth who voted me before you. I have Wylted who you think is town if I’m not mistaken, and Kohai who has claimed to be confirmable. Pretty easy

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:20 AM (post #264)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:15 AM (post #260)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:06 AM (post #254)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:04 AM (post #251)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:01 AM (post #247)

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

Lynch the dude who is acting differently than he normally does by tunneling someone for the oddest reason, giving kohai a pass when he normally pushes him d1, and instead trying to intimidate people away from lynching him even though he would never give someone else the same pass in his shoes.

The reason is common sense in wanting to solve Thoth early because he’s always an odd ball. Wow, is it really rocket science?

"Always the oddball" is kind of vague, and could apply to plenty of other people as well. You could arguably make a more compelling case for that in wylted or mago as well. You have done it ad nauseum with kohai.

Many people including you I believe have explicitly told me in DMs that he’s straight weird and odd. Wylted is a smart guy. Mago is a smart guy. Are you really comparing them to Thoth? Kohai I agree with you. He was next on the list, but there was more to work with Thoth

Most of you all are odd, if you mean that literally. Don't understand how being odd has anything to do with them being scum.

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Translation: Lynch completely randomly to get attention off himself, ignoring the fact that Casey is equally inactive.

im fine lynching Casey too lol. Want to switch to her lmfao? Bffr

If I let you off the hook for not claiming, and you end up being scum I am never gonna forgive myself for getting played lol so no.

Im not playing you. Literally just use basic logic. It’s back to the whole Vanilla thing. Just cause I think different and want to cover my bases doesn’t mean I’m scum. The logic only to you is bad. It made sense to Mag1c in both cases I believe. Like literally just look at how hard you’re tunneling me

I don't believe there is any basis in reality to the tunneling accusation, I think you use that word as a talking point to discredit my arguments and overall point. I am simply holding you to the same standards you would hold anyone else in your position. You and I both know if someone else is doing the same thing you aren't sitting on your laurels and letting them do this. We have policy lynched people for this type of thing plenty of time before. Me and you are not an exclusion to the rule we enforce because of our time and experience in this game.

Automated Vote Count

This system-generated vote count was posted on behalf of the main host.

ILikePie5 (3/5): Thoth (p#108), Lunatic (p#135), Magoroth (p#201)

RexFavilla (3/5): Kohai (p#22), wylted (p#146), ILikePie5 (p#225)

Not Voting (3): Casey_Risk, Mag1cman (p#186), RexFavilla

With 9 players alive, the base elimination threshold is 5. Configured role modifiers may change vote power or an individual player's threshold. Day phase ends in 2 hours.

It would be really great if someone else could enter the thread. We are likely going to hit a no lynch here.