From mafia - Game Over

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:24 AM (post #268)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:20 AM (post #264)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:15 AM (post #260)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:06 AM (post #254)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:04 AM (post #251)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:01 AM (post #247)

Options are simple.

1) No Lynch (we lose a lynch)

2) Lynch the most active guy over a tunnel effort

Lynch the dude who is acting differently than he normally does by tunneling someone for the oddest reason, giving kohai a pass when he normally pushes him d1, and instead trying to intimidate people away from lynching him even though he would never give someone else the same pass in his shoes.

The reason is common sense in wanting to solve Thoth early because he’s always an odd ball. Wow, is it really rocket science?

"Always the oddball" is kind of vague, and could apply to plenty of other people as well. You could arguably make a more compelling case for that in wylted or mago as well. You have done it ad nauseum with kohai.

Many people including you I believe have explicitly told me in DMs that he’s straight weird and odd. Wylted is a smart guy. Mago is a smart guy. Are you really comparing them to Thoth? Kohai I agree with you. He was next on the list, but there was more to work with Thoth

Most of you all are odd, if you mean that literally. Don't understand how being odd has anything to do with them being scum.

Youre conflating two separate things. My original push on Thoth was because I wanted to solve him early. Then after rereading, I saw he was basically following you with respect to Wylted. Not just me who saw it after I pointed it out. Wylted and Mag1c did as well. So then best case, we lynch scum Thoth. Worst case we solve Thoth as town.

3) Lynch the inactive who hasn’t posted once

Translation: Lynch completely randomly to get attention off himself, ignoring the fact that Casey is equally inactive.

im fine lynching Casey too lol. Want to switch to her lmfao? Bffr

If I let you off the hook for not claiming, and you end up being scum I am never gonna forgive myself for getting played lol so no.

Im not playing you. Literally just use basic logic. It’s back to the whole Vanilla thing. Just cause I think different and want to cover my bases doesn’t mean I’m scum. The logic only to you is bad. It made sense to Mag1c in both cases I believe. Like literally just look at how hard you’re tunneling me

I don't believe there is any basis in reality to the tunneling accusation, I think you use that word as a talking point to discredit my arguments and overall point. I am simply holding you to the same standards you would hold anyone else in your position. You and I both know if someone else is doing the same thing you aren't sitting on your laurels and letting them do this. We have policy lynched people for this type of thing plenty of time before. Me and you are not an exclusion to the rule we enforce because of our time and experience in this game.

We policy lynch people for refusing to claim at L-1. You’re actively advocating to lynch me regardless of my claim. Theres a massive difference

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:23 AM (post #267)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #263)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:16 AM (post #261)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Soft claiming isn't a compromise, its a cop out that lets you get away with it. Thoth didn't have a good reason to claim. You are the only person who seems to genuinely scum read him. Wylted and kohai are on that wagon and seem to be more or less bandwagoning you, where as the people voting you actually seem to scum read you. The difference in the quality of the wagon make up is staggering.

Lol really? I’ll let you decide how you want me to soft claim. Something only you would know. Your wagon literally has Mago who hasn’t done anything. And then Thoth who voted me before you. I have Wylted who you think is town if I’m not mistaken, and Kohai who has claimed to be confirmable. Pretty easy

Maybe if you had come with this earlier than ONE HOUR left of the day phase we could talk. Unfortunately we are at the place now where I just wanna lynch you.

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ILikePie5 (3/5): Thoth (p#108), Lunatic (p#135), Magoroth (p#201)

RexFavilla (3/5): Kohai (p#22), wylted (p#146), ILikePie5 (p#225)

Not Voting (3): Casey_Risk, Mag1cman (p#186), RexFavilla

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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:27 AM (post #270)

It would be really great if someone else could enter the thread. We are likely going to hit a no lynch here.

Youre actively enabling a no lynch. Literally just take a step back and think about you tunneling me. Just cause you don’t think it’s logical, doesn’t mean it’s illogical. You alrwady fell into this trap in that Anonymous game with the whole Vanilla. It’s literally the exact same situation here.

If we lynch pie, and he flips scum, look into kohai. Pie has been strangely avoidant of him this game, he always pressures kohai.

Also wylted needs to be pressured if he doesn't have a damn good reason for whatever gambit hes pulling tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #272)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:23 AM (post #267)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #263)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:16 AM (post #261)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Soft claiming isn't a compromise, its a cop out that lets you get away with it. Thoth didn't have a good reason to claim. You are the only person who seems to genuinely scum read him. Wylted and kohai are on that wagon and seem to be more or less bandwagoning you, where as the people voting you actually seem to scum read you. The difference in the quality of the wagon make up is staggering.

Lol really? I’ll let you decide how you want me to soft claim. Something only you would know. Your wagon literally has Mago who hasn’t done anything. And then Thoth who voted me before you. I have Wylted who you think is town if I’m not mistaken, and Kohai who has claimed to be confirmable. Pretty easy

Maybe if you had come with this earlier than ONE HOUR left of the day phase we could talk. Unfortunately we are at the place now where I just wanna lynch you.

It’s literally just you and me. We still have an hour. Tell me however, you want me to soft claim. I will literally do it. If another person comes on, fine I’ll full claim

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:31 AM (post #274)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:27 AM (post #270)

It would be really great if someone else could enter the thread. We are likely going to hit a no lynch here.

Youre actively enabling a no lynch. Literally just take a step back and think about you tunneling me. Just cause you don’t think it’s logical, doesn’t mean it’s illogical. You alrwady fell into this trap in that Anonymous game with the whole Vanilla. It’s literally the exact same situation here.

I mean you were deadset that a townie was scum and tunneled them on bad logic to your own death. You are willing to let pride overcome your ability to play this game to your maximum, which is probably the only thing holding you from being one of the greats as a mafia player. You are good, you and me both know that. But you dying on hills like this never does you any favors. It's okay to be wrong. If I am wrong here, I'll accept this on the chin. But I do think your behavior has been drastically different this game, and I feel like others are picking up on that as well.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:33 AM (post #276)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #272)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:23 AM (post #267)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #263)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:16 AM (post #261)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Soft claiming isn't a compromise, its a cop out that lets you get away with it. Thoth didn't have a good reason to claim. You are the only person who seems to genuinely scum read him. Wylted and kohai are on that wagon and seem to be more or less bandwagoning you, where as the people voting you actually seem to scum read you. The difference in the quality of the wagon make up is staggering.

Lol really? I’ll let you decide how you want me to soft claim. Something only you would know. Your wagon literally has Mago who hasn’t done anything. And then Thoth who voted me before you. I have Wylted who you think is town if I’m not mistaken, and Kohai who has claimed to be confirmable. Pretty easy

Maybe if you had come with this earlier than ONE HOUR left of the day phase we could talk. Unfortunately we are at the place now where I just wanna lynch you.

It’s literally just you and me. We still have an hour. Tell me however, you want me to soft claim. I will literally do it. If another person comes on, fine I’ll full claim

Why are you unwilling to even character claim? Why does this have to be a soft situation? What if I find your soft scummy? You will just accuse me of tunneling more. It's too late man, we have an hour left and we need a lynch. As it stands I'd prefer you be that lynch based on all the behavior difference I have noticed so far.

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ILikePie5 (3/5): Thoth (p#108), Lunatic (p#135), Magoroth (p#201)

RexFavilla (3/5): Kohai (p#22), wylted (p#146), ILikePie5 (p#225)

Not Voting (3): Casey_Risk, Mag1cman (p#186), RexFavilla

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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:35 AM (post #277)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:31 AM (post #274)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:27 AM (post #270)

It would be really great if someone else could enter the thread. We are likely going to hit a no lynch here.

Youre actively enabling a no lynch. Literally just take a step back and think about you tunneling me. Just cause you don’t think it’s logical, doesn’t mean it’s illogical. You alrwady fell into this trap in that Anonymous game with the whole Vanilla. It’s literally the exact same situation here.

I mean you were deadset that a townie was scum and tunneled them on bad logic to your own death.

What are you even talking about it? And how do you know he’s a townie?

And it was “bad logic” just for you. Other people agreed with me.

You are willing to let pride overcome your ability to play this game to your maximum, which is probably the only thing holding you from being one of the greats as a mafia player. You are good, you and me both know that. But you dying on hills like this never does you any favors. It's okay to be wrong. If I am wrong here, I'll accept this on the chin. But I do think your behavior has been drastically different this game, and I feel like others are picking up on that as well.

Pride? Really? Like look at yourself dude. I admitted I was wrong with Thoth and moved on. I got what I needed. You just refuse to even consider for a second that I’m town. Even if I did claim, you’d still lynch me.

You’re saying the exact same thing you said in the Vanilla game. And no one else is “picking” anything up. Thoth was on me before you, and Mago is just wagoning and disappeared again.

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ILikePie5 (3/5): Thoth (p#108), Lunatic (p#135), Magoroth (p#201)

RexFavilla (3/5): Kohai (p#22), wylted (p#146), ILikePie5 (p#225)

Not Voting (3): Casey_Risk, Mag1cman (p#186), RexFavilla

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I did not disappear, I’m reading with avid interest

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:36 AM (post #278)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:33 AM (post #276)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #272)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:23 AM (post #267)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #263)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:16 AM (post #261)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:12 AM (post #258)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 8:07 AM (post #256)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:06 AM (post #253)

All this talk of tunneling when all you realistically had to do to get me to switch to Rex was claim, the same way you pushed Thoth to claim. I would have switched to Rex, you took it this far mate.

At this point you’re just lying. You explicitly said you want to lynch me regardless of what I claim lol

"I still want a claim from pie. Character at least. I could be persuaded into an inactive lynch if we can’t get a replacement soon."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-1?page=7&comment_number=183

And I said I’m willing to compromise with you. To which you refuse. Thoth didn’t full claim at L-3 did he? He didn’t even character claim. So again, double standard

Soft claiming isn't a compromise, its a cop out that lets you get away with it. Thoth didn't have a good reason to claim. You are the only person who seems to genuinely scum read him. Wylted and kohai are on that wagon and seem to be more or less bandwagoning you, where as the people voting you actually seem to scum read you. The difference in the quality of the wagon make up is staggering.

Lol really? I’ll let you decide how you want me to soft claim. Something only you would know. Your wagon literally has Mago who hasn’t done anything. And then Thoth who voted me before you. I have Wylted who you think is town if I’m not mistaken, and Kohai who has claimed to be confirmable. Pretty easy

Maybe if you had come with this earlier than ONE HOUR left of the day phase we could talk. Unfortunately we are at the place now where I just wanna lynch you.

It’s literally just you and me. We still have an hour. Tell me however, you want me to soft claim. I will literally do it. If another person comes on, fine I’ll full claim

Why are you unwilling to even character claim? Why does this have to be a soft situation? What if I find your soft scummy? You will just accuse me of tunneling more. It's too late man, we have an hour left and we need a lynch. As it stands I'd prefer you be that lynch based on all the behavior difference I have noticed so far.

I will character claim. Fine. Jade Herrera. Now can we please vote REF and avoid the no lynch.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/28/2026 at 9:39 AM (post #282)

I did not disappear, I’m reading with avid interest

Welcome back. You + Luna gets us to 5 on REF

VTL: RexFavilla

I still am narrowing my eyes at Pie but Rex is a liability

Idt we can replace every inactive

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RexFavilla (4/5): Kohai (p#22), wylted (p#146), ILikePie5 (p#225), Mag1cman (p#285)

ILikePie5 (3/5): Thoth (p#108), Lunatic (p#135), Magoroth (p#201)

Not Voting (2): Casey_Risk, RexFavilla

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If Rex town my top guess is Pie+Kohai

What are you even talking about it? And how do you know he’s a townie?

I am talking about the anonymous game where you tunneled banana who was town lol

And it was “bad logic” just for you. Other people agreed with me.

Both wylteds and Kohais votes are bandwagon votes. All of me thoth and magic are on you for actual behavior.

Pride? Really? Like look at yourself dude. I admitted I was wrong with Thoth and moved on. I got what I needed. You just refuse to even consider for a second that I’m town. Even if I did claim, you’d still lynch me.

You refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for putting yourself in this situation, and continue to believe I am tunneling you despite the fact that I showed you evidence I would have been able to have been swayed into voting an inactive had you been willing to claim earlier. Now we have less than an hour left, and you still haven't claimed. How are you managing to be the victim here when you've had every oppertunity to dig yourself out of this hole?

You’re saying the exact same thing you said in the Vanilla game. And no one else is “picking” anything up. Thoth was on me before you, and Mago is just wagoning and disappeared again.

If mago is bandwagoning why did you guys have a multi-response engagement about your behavior? Seems much different that a bandwagon from my shoes.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 8:41 AM (post #285)

VTL: RexFavilla

Do you have significant reason to town read pie? You are choosing to shoot completely randomly in the dark if you choose this path. We have mikal as a reserve who could still replace in.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:43 AM (post #290)

What are you even talking about it? And how do you know he’s a townie?

I am talking about the anonymous game where you tunneled banana who was town lol

Okay and? You’ve tunneled me multiple times and I’ve been town every time lol.

And it was “bad logic” just for you. Other people agreed with me.

Both wylteds and Kohais votes are bandwagon votes. All of me thoth and magic are on you for actual behavior.

On REF? Idk. I was referring to the Thoth vote

Pride? Really? Like look at yourself dude. I admitted I was wrong with Thoth and moved on. I got what I needed. You just refuse to even consider for a second that I’m town. Even if I did claim, you’d still lynch me.

You refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for putting yourself in this situation, and continue to believe I am tunneling you despite the fact that I showed you evidence I would have been able to have been swayed into voting an inactive had you been willing to claim earlier. Now we have less than an hour left, and you still haven't claimed. How are you managing to be the victim here when you've had every oppertunity to dig yourself out of this hole?

Your mind has been set since last night. Let’s be real here. Pie = scum. For the record, I did character claim just now cause I don’t want a No lynch at all.

You’re saying the exact same thing you said in the Vanilla game. And no one else is “picking” anything up. Thoth was on me before you, and Mago is just wagoning and disappeared again.

If mago is bandwagoning why did you guys have a multi-response engagement about your behavior? Seems much different that a bandwagon from my shoes.

He just said he agrees. He hasn’t even read the thread. He read what you said and took at prima facie without reading anything else.

This is going to be so infuriating if this ends in a no lynch.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:49 AM (post #293)

This is going to be so infuriating if this ends in a no lynch.

Hammer REF then.

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RexFavilla (4/5): Kohai (p#22), wylted (p#146), ILikePie5 (p#225), Mag1cman (p#285)

ILikePie5 (3/5): Thoth (p#108), Lunatic (p#135), Magoroth (p#201)

Not Voting (2): Casey_Risk, RexFavilla

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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 10:44 AM (post #291)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 8:41 AM (post #285)

VTL: RexFavilla

Do you have significant reason to town read pie? You are choosing to shoot completely randomly in the dark if you choose this path. We have mikal as a reserve who could still replace in.

Casey inactive Magoroth pretty low activity too

i don’t have a reason to townread Pie. There’s a few things that I would be townreading a lesser skilled player for

Okay and? You’ve tunneled me multiple times and I’ve been town every time lol.

You find one example, and the one example is of you being a massive hypocrite, and doing the same thing you are accusing me of, the irony is pretty funny.

On REF? Idk. I was referring to the Thoth vote

I am not seeing a lot of arguments that say that Thoth is a liability for being town in your game and not clutching it up lol Or for him being "buddying" me about wylted, only you.

Your mind has been set since last night. Let’s be real here. Pie = scum.

Last night was when you should have claimed bother. Everyone has been asleep since then and now the day phase is ending. It's almost like you knew you could argue your way out of this and stall for time while people aren't online to call you on your bs.

For the record, I did character claim just now cause I don’t want a No lynch at all.

Where and what did you claim?

He just said he agrees. He hasn’t even read the thread. He read what you said and took at prima facie without reading anything else.

He called you out for town reading everyone.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/28/2026 at 10:39 AM (post #282)

I did not disappear, I’m reading with avid interest

possibly magoroth scum meta here

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 8:55 AM (post #296)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 10:44 AM (post #291)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 8:41 AM (post #285)

VTL: RexFavilla

Do you have significant reason to town read pie? You are choosing to shoot completely randomly in the dark if you choose this path. We have mikal as a reserve who could still replace in.

Casey inactive Magoroth pretty low activity too

i don’t have a reason to townread Pie. There’s a few things that I would be townreading a lesser skilled player for

Magic. We can't keep letting him get away with this!

Lunatic hard town