I'm down to trust Thoth. When mafia comes up with a fake claim in a game said to be role madness, they will want to claim a PR of some kind.
Any future vanilla claims feel more iffy. A second one could be plausible but feels less likely.
I'm down to trust Thoth. When mafia comes up with a fake claim in a game said to be role madness, they will want to claim a PR of some kind.
Any future vanilla claims feel more iffy. A second one could be plausible but feels less likely.
I still don’t know what to type!
Agreed
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
FTR my definition of role madness is zero vanilla.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
trusting
Thoth
Pie
leaves
Kohai
Vader
Lunatic
Whiteflame
I still don’t know what to type!
Official Vote Count
Kohai (2/4) - magic, Pie,
lunatic (1/4) - Vader (2)
Magic (1/4) - Kohai
Thoth (1/4) - whiteflame
Not voting: Thoth, lunatic,
DP1 ends in ~27 hours. DP1 ends on 09/25, 23:30 EDT.
unvote VTL Lunatic
I still don’t know what to type!
Unvote
We have just over 24 hours. We need to come up with a consensus
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/24/2026 at 8:41 PM (post #157)
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We have just over 24 hours. We need to come up with a consensus
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Yup. Starting to feel like I’m missing something obvious after Thoth’s claim, but I can’t put my finger on it.
Also, just saying, not that terrible of a role PM from where I’m sitting. Zombie Apocalypse is just about the only thing that would work for a Tree Stump from where I’m sitting. Guess they’re smart zombies.
I’m going to need to dig back through and reconsider my reads. I know attention is mostly on Luna atm, but I’m also aware I’m common to several POEs, so I suspect I won’t be far behind if he does full claim. I’d prefer to wait another DP to do so, but that will be up to the rest of you to decide.
Official Vote Count
lunatic (2/4) - Vader (2), magic,
Kohai (1/4) - Pie,
Not voting: Thoth, lunatic, Kohai, whiteflame
DP1 ends in ~26 hours. DP1 ends on 09/25, 23:30 EDT.
Yes, I am a vanilla townie, which, as Mag1c noted, means the game is not rolemad per my understanding of rolemad, hence why I said the OP was wrong. My 'character', i.e., apocalypse, is the Sun turning into a red giant and swallowing the Earth. Justification is that this will happen in a billion years, so almost nobody today cares about it or preps for it. Actually, this will happen in about five or six billion years, and Bullish was probably thinking of the Sun becoming hot enough to boil the oceans and kill most or all known forms of life, which is a bit less apocalyptic. I thought whiteflame might be vanilla because one vanilla often means multiple vanillas and I figured his PM might have a similar justification to mine since he claimed that it's something preppers don't normally care about.
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
Do you have an issue character claiming?
I definitely don’t like Thoth’s character. Two sun apocalypses, especially with so many out there?
Also, Thoth should know by now that rolemad can have Vanillas. Why call that out as a lie?
That is what I thought rolemad meant: there are no vanillas.
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
Again, I have been sick, I will try to participate tonight and discuss what's been said today but I can't guarantee deep analysis.
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
Mistyped that Roman numeral, it’s Ice-IX. Long day.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/24/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #168)
Mistyped that Roman numeral, it’s Ice-IX. Long day.
So it goes.
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 9/24/2026 at 10:40 PM (post #171)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/24/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #168)
Mistyped that Roman numeral, it’s Ice-IX. Long day.
So it goes.
My man.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 9/24/2026 at 5:58 PM (post #148)
I am sorry, guys. I have been sick. I am vanilla. I will try to post more in a bit. I was thinking whiteflame might be vanilla too based on him saying something similar to my PM. I don’t think he should confirm or deny if he hasn’t yet.
A single vanilla existing doesn't reduce a game from being role mad btw. More than one maybe.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/24/2026 at 3:52 PM (post #142)
It’s been… a day, got a lot busier when I had to handle a mess at home. My bandwidth is lower than usual, but I’ll try to be involved from here.
If the consensus is that we want to move on from Mag1c, that’s fine, though I still have reservations there. I’ll set those aside for now. Pie at least knows he was visited. It’s unclear if he knew Mag1c was the one to do it, but he buys his claim. I could see a world in which they do this as a scum team, though it seems pretty convoluted. I could see them just both being town.
As for who to put attention on, I don’t think we’re going to get much more out of Kohai. Maybe he gives up his full claim, but we’ll likely still be in the same boat with him unless someone has information on his night action or lack thereof. Absent that, I’m more interested in Thoth’s claim, particularly after he started fishing for mine.
VTL Thoth
I also don't understand why he was fishing for yours if he was just assuming you were a vanilla. That is literally pointless, even if you assume you know someone's a vanilla, you never call attention to that.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Might as well get up a claims list.
Dead players:
Vader v.1.0: Solar Flare - 2X RB
Banana: Alien Invasion - Even Night Follower
Lunatic: Nuclear Warfare - ???
Whiteflame: Ice-IX - ???
Thoth: Sun turning into a red giant - Vanilla
Pie: ??? - something that registers a visit to him
Mag1c: God exists and we face judgment - Doctor (chosen as "Jesus" NP0)
Kohai: Zombie Apocalypse - Tree Stump
Vader v.2.0 (formerly JenKiggans2026): Vacuum Decay - Miller
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/24/2026 at 11:16 PM (post #174)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/24/2026 at 3:52 PM (post #142)
It’s been… a day, got a lot busier when I had to handle a mess at home. My bandwidth is lower than usual, but I’ll try to be involved from here.
If the consensus is that we want to move on from Mag1c, that’s fine, though I still have reservations there. I’ll set those aside for now. Pie at least knows he was visited. It’s unclear if he knew Mag1c was the one to do it, but he buys his claim. I could see a world in which they do this as a scum team, though it seems pretty convoluted. I could see them just both being town.
As for who to put attention on, I don’t think we’re going to get much more out of Kohai. Maybe he gives up his full claim, but we’ll likely still be in the same boat with him unless someone has information on his night action or lack thereof. Absent that, I’m more interested in Thoth’s claim, particularly after he started fishing for mine.
VTL Thoth
I also don't understand why he was fishing for yours if he was just assuming you were a vanilla. That is literally pointless, even if you assume you know someone's a vanilla, you never call attention to that.
Yep, it's beyond me. I'm going to sleep on this because I feel like staring at my screen isn't getting me any closer to an answer. Will be active tomorrow.
Claims:
Thoth- Sun turning into red giant- Vanilla
Whiteflame- Ice-IX from Cat’s Cradle
Vader 2- Vacuum Decay- Miller
Lunatic- Nuclear War
Mag1cMan- God exists and we face judgment- Doctor (chose Jesus as his god) (protected pie)
Kohai- Zombie Apocalypse- Tree Stump
Unclaimed:
Pie (knows someone visited him)
Softs, justifications:
Thoth- Sun turning into red giant- Vanilla
“Yes, I am a vanilla townie, which, as Mag1c noted, means the game is not rolemad per my understanding of rolemad, hence why I said the OP was wrong. My 'character', i.e., apocalypse, is the Sun turning into a red giant and swallowing the Earth. Justification is that this will happen in a billion years, so almost nobody today cares about it or preps for it. " - Post 161 dp2
“At least one statement in the OP is false” + “I am not an Informed Townie.” - Post 5 dp1
“My role PM contradicts a statement in the OP.” - Post 30 dp1
Says he is saying #30 mainly to breadcrumb. - Post 31 dp1
Says he suspects Whiteflame's apocalypse range based on his expectations of the game + what he can see from his role PM. - Post 42 dp1
“Mine kinda make sense. It's not what I would have picked for this 'character' (type of apocalypse), but I get Bullish's thinking.” - Post 52 dp1
Says he reread his PM and realized the PM itself is factually incorrect. - Post 87 dp1
Reiterates that the PM is factually incorrect according to his understanding/search. - Post 91 dp1
Whiteflame- Ice-IX from Cat’s Cradle
“I’m the Ice-Nine or Ice-XI apocalypse from Cat’s Cradle, my favorite Kurt Vonnegut book. “- Post 166 dp2
Says he got “one of my all-time favorite apocalypses.” - Post 8 dp1
Says his apocalypse gives him “clear grounding” on what the game encompasses; suggests the range goes from events killing many people/fundamentally changing the world to the end of humanity. - Post 10 dp1
His apocalypse is from a book. - Post 37 dp1
Vader 2- Vacuum Decay- Miller
“I am a Miller” - Post 13 dp2
“My character is false vacuum decay. It’s a fake a quantum state that is meta stable and because I am false I am Miller” - Post 14 dp2
Lunatic- Nuclear War
“Mine's a pretty common fear, though im unsure how realistic it is. Maybe more realistic if you buy into paranoia from recent events.” - Post 65
“Nuclear Warfare. Not role claiming at this time, especially before a kohai full claim and a Thoth claim.“ - Post 123
Mag1cMan- God exists and we face judgment- Doctor (chose Jesus as his god)
“You might ask, how does that lead to Doctor? The answer is that I got to choose which god exists NP0. My options were Athena, Ra, and Jesus.
I thought this game had a lot more moving parts and bs roles than it actually did, so I chose Jesus hoping to get something really OP like a res ability, and got Doctor, because Jesus healed the sick, the crippled, and the demonically possessed.” - Post 105 dp2
“too many people are afraid of mine.” Says there are a couple different ways it could happen and knows a couple in his town who prepare for it. - Post 68 dp1
Kohai- Zombie Apocalypse- Tree Stump
“Role: Zombie apocalypse” - Post 144 dp2
“Zombies were dead but are back to life to eat your brian. Hence i come back to life as a tree stump” - Post 146 dp2
“my character, along with the justification and role, make absolutely zero sense whatsoever.” - Post 51 dp1
“I won’t claim character or justification. I will however claim tree stump.” Says this explains why he was hesitant to claim and that he is effectively stuck in the game for its duration. - Post 274 dp1
Unclaimed:
Pie
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
VTL pie for a claim, he is the last to claim.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Just seen you made a claims list too lol
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.