Epstein's Island Mafia DP1

Originally Posted by Kohai on 08/10/2026 at 16:14 (post #360)

Shining is rubbing me the wrong way. Feels line TMI on flavor.

Where’s the TMI?

It’s really not a stretch to say the scum team is Epstein and Maxwell lol

I haven’t thought about it, but if I was as inactive as Shining usually is it wouldn’t surprise me if my first contribution is to say what the scum team flavour might look like. It’s an attempt at scumhuntig even if it’s not particularly useful

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 8:20 AM (post #362)

I haven’t thought about it, but if I was as inactive as Shining usually is it wouldn’t surprise me if my first contribution is to say what the scum team flavour might look like. It’s an attempt at scumhuntig even if it’s not particularly useful

I just don't know why he won't read, he is only sometimes responding to pings. But he clearly hasnt even read the first few pages. You can tell because he didn't even know about the peek stuff which was discussed earlier on. If you were town and trying to solve you'd think that reading even a bit would be the priority. Again, I can see town earth doing this too, but its very frustrating, and if we give him a free pass and he is scum it's gonna be mega annoying, to me at least.

I won't even bother with the peek shit and that Helz posted a guide I needed to sign in to some forum for.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/8/2026 at 10:06 AM (post #359)

Originally Posted by Shining on 10/8/2026 at 9:53 AM (post #358)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/8/2026 at 9:46 AM (post #356)

Originally Posted by Shining on 10/8/2026 at 7:43 AM (post #355)

I will just tell you outright you should probably plan on a second person should you decide to abandon the wagon. You guys are talking about having the game reach DP4, but remember that you can also just blitz through days if needed. In other words, don't rush too much.

Who do you want to lynch?

Thoth kinda rubbed me the wrong way in a manner I quite can't describe. I think it might have something to do with our interaction regarding whatever role Epstein and Dershowitz have in this game. IDK. If he flipped now, I wouldn't be surprised if hes Mafia!Epstein.

Why is this?

Why is what? I would assume a potential theme is something like Epstein and Maxwell since they were the ringleaders of the island.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 08/10/2026 at 16:30 (post #363)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 8:20 AM (post #362)

I haven’t thought about it, but if I was as inactive as Shining usually is it wouldn’t surprise me if my first contribution is to say what the scum team flavour might look like. It’s an attempt at scumhuntig even if it’s not particularly useful

I just don't know why he won't read, he is only sometimes responding to pings. But he clearly hasnt even read the first few pages. You can tell because he didn't even know about the peek stuff which was discussed earlier on. If you were town and trying to solve you'd think that reading even a bit would be the priority. Again, I can see town earth doing this too, but its very frustrating, and if we give him a free pass and he is scum it's gonna be mega annoying, to me at least.

I get your frustration, I really do, but I don’t think he’s scum unfortunately. I could be wrong but I don’t see myself voting them at EoD.

Ofc if circumstances change or if anyone can show why I’m wrong to read Shining the way I am I’d be open to changing my mind.

I will say I am a little uneasy that Shining seems to be piggybacking off of my points to defend himself

For the record very soon I will have go inactive yet again until roughly 12am CEST (6pm Eastern Time)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 8:38 AM (post #366)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 08/10/2026 at 16:30 (post #363)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 8:20 AM (post #362)

I haven’t thought about it, but if I was as inactive as Shining usually is it wouldn’t surprise me if my first contribution is to say what the scum team flavour might look like. It’s an attempt at scumhuntig even if it’s not particularly useful

I just don't know why he won't read, he is only sometimes responding to pings. But he clearly hasnt even read the first few pages. You can tell because he didn't even know about the peek stuff which was discussed earlier on. If you were town and trying to solve you'd think that reading even a bit would be the priority. Again, I can see town earth doing this too, but its very frustrating, and if we give him a free pass and he is scum it's gonna be mega annoying, to me at least.

I get your frustration, I really do, but I don’t think he’s scum unfortunately. I could be wrong but I don’t see myself voting them at EoD.

Ofc if circumstances change or if anyone can show why I’m wrong to read Shining the way I am I’d be open to changing my mind.

I don't see anything to town read him off of, at best hes a null read, but he has every oppterunity not to be. All he needs to do is participate, read literally anything. If you were town you would want to do that right?

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 08/10/2026 at 16:50 (post #369)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 8:38 AM (post #366)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 08/10/2026 at 16:30 (post #363)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 8:20 AM (post #362)

I haven’t thought about it, but if I was as inactive as Shining usually is it wouldn’t surprise me if my first contribution is to say what the scum team flavour might look like. It’s an attempt at scumhuntig even if it’s not particularly useful

I just don't know why he won't read, he is only sometimes responding to pings. But he clearly hasnt even read the first few pages. You can tell because he didn't even know about the peek stuff which was discussed earlier on. If you were town and trying to solve you'd think that reading even a bit would be the priority. Again, I can see town earth doing this too, but its very frustrating, and if we give him a free pass and he is scum it's gonna be mega annoying, to me at least.

I get your frustration, I really do, but I don’t think he’s scum unfortunately. I could be wrong but I don’t see myself voting them at EoD.

Ofc if circumstances change or if anyone can show why I’m wrong to read Shining the way I am I’d be open to changing my mind.

I don't see anything to town read him off of, at best hes a null read, but he has every oppterunity not to be. All he needs to do is participate, read literally anything. If you were town you would want to do that right?

Ofc

Gotta go now, cya all later. I’ll do my best to pop in at 10pm CEST (4pm Eastern Time) in case y’all decide to lynch then, but I can’t make any promises.

@Savant would it be possible for me to conditionally vote the top train at 4pm Eastern Time, as long as that train is not Helz, Lunatic, Whiteflame, or myself?

I'll allow conditional voting

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 10:38 AM (post #367)

I will say I am a little uneasy that Shining seems to be piggybacking off of my points to defend himself

I also dislike that he’s done more to defend himself than move the game forward with his own reads and analysis

VTL: Shining

Unofficial Vote Count

Shining (3/5): Lunatic, Magoroth, Kohai

Helz (2/5): Mag1c, WF

Not voting: Helz, Noah, Thoth, Shining

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/8/2026 at 2:09 PM (post #376)

I wish I could do more, but I'm just getting a feel for it and also paying attention to everyone else.

Thats perfectly fine as you’re still learning the game

I just got up

Try not to lynch me until I can talk

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/8/2026 at 9:14 AM (post #360)

Shining is rubbing me the wrong way. Feels line TMI on flavor.

This is something that pinged me as well reading through. Less that they had a guess for who the flavor roles might be but more for how deadset they are on the exact names. Probably the only behavior I have seen from them that has really bothered me outside of (what I believe to be) their norm.

True. I am not sure that is AI for them though. Do they also not read up as town? The one game I remember playing with them they were scum and they did really engage for a small amount of time when they were on the chopping block. Then just floated in the background for like 2 days before I could figure things out.

Oh, yeah. I closed the site to shut out the Artificial Intelligence scrapers. A lot of Artificial Intelligence was specifically training itself off mafia games because they deal with complex human interactions that are bot free. Fuck the clankers. May they burn in hell.

Conditional voting opens up some excellent doors for us to easily control the day cycles time. If we all simply picked a time our votes would go into effect as we voted we would perfectly control exactly when a day ends. It could be a good idea to consider.

Although I do feel we should reconsider the timeline. I get peoples plans for exactly 4 day phases but if we block a kill or get a mafia early we could have more. What we will not have more of is days IRL to play the game. That sets us up for a bit of a problem.

We are alereadh over our two day budget for D1. Personally I think shining is still the best lynch. At minimum I’d like a claim from them.

The only thing he did is whine that he was a wagon and defended himself. He hasn’t contributed any original reads

Fair point.

I am not opposed to Shining I just still look at them as a policy elimination. I have been running around all morning and just took a break for a late lunch but I would not be opposed to setting a hard deadline. Mag is looking to drop a vote a 4 eastern but I believe thats in only 55 minutes or so.

We should get our day cycles under control either way. If I was scum I would want to drag days out as long as possible to then force chaos in the end blitzing lynches with little consideration.

Something that also occurred to me is if town actually did run lynches faster than scum could submit actions it could be game breaking removing the scum kpn.

I don't know that its practical to implement without some kinda communication role though.. Even if we got a hand full of players together that trusted etch other on the same page there would still be ways to work around it now that I am thinking about it.

Anyways, in 50ish minutes Thoths vote will drop on @Shining putting them at L1 if nobody else votes

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/8/2026 at 2:08 PM (post #385)

Something that also occurred to me is if town actually did run lynches faster than scum could submit actions it could be game breaking removing the scum kpn.

I will clarify that normally I would consider this against the spirit of the game. But given the hard "Town auto-looses" mechanic and my belief that wolves are playing for that I feel its fair game to fuck around with time considerations.

If they are gona do it so should we.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 7:40 AM (post #341)

I feel like Thoth thinks Shining knows more about the setup than he should which is why he asking Shining that bit about Dershowitz/Epstein. It ties in with him asking Kohai about the Vanillaiser bait

Could not possibly be an attempt to engage in discussion huh? Why not sus the people who brought those topics up?

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/8/2026 at 1:53 PM (post #380)

True. I am not sure that is AI for them though. Do they also not read up as town? The one game I remember playing with them they were scum and they did really engage for a small amount of time when they were on the chopping block. Then just floated in the background for like 2 days before I could figure things out.

I know my activity is inconsistent, but Shining is consistently AWOL