Epstein's Island Mafia DP2

I arrive

My current feeling is that Magic is scum and faked the Blackmail knowing it seems to fit the theme split super well. It might be an early planned bus with Helz, but I doubt it. Could be worth looking to see if anyone’s reads echo the sort of sentiments Mag1c would give.

2x odd-night is such a weird restriction set. Like, does Savant expect the game to reach night 5? I don’t see a noobwolf claiming anything without scummate approval, though.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 6:52 PM (post #301)

I arrive

Welcome. I hope you’re safe

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 6:38 PM (post #300)

So do we believe that Mag1cman is scum?

Either he or wf are scum

I do prefer this supposed self-announce silencer (has to be Silencer at this point) over mod-announced because of the ambiguity over whether or not it’s real, and would like it to become the meta for Silencer around here.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 11:22 PM (post #221)

Kohai's #246 yesterday is now supermassive TMI

To respond to this, I made the exact same point in the last game I was popular:

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/n/deltarune-mafia-chapter-2?page=8&comment_number=231

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #306)

To respond to this, I made the exact same point in the last game I was popular:

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/n/deltarune-mafia-chapter-2?page=8&comment_number=231

Consider that point dropped, then.

I should have checked whether or not that game had a Vanillaizer before posting that, but it did not.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 8:40 PM (post #308)

I should have checked whether or not that game had a Vanillaizer before posting that, but it did not.

It didn't, but the fact remains that I'm always thinking about such roles when I have a role that can confirm myself or confirm my role.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:01 PM (post #94)

Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: Troocallt someone who is black mailed isn’t even allowed to claim that.

Troocallt ?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:05 PM (post #310)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:01 PM (post #94)

Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: Troocallt someone who is black mailed isn’t even allowed to claim that.

Troocallt ?

Damn I’m drunk. I meant to write

Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: I someone who is black mailed typically is not allowed to claim that they were blackmailed

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:09 PM (post #311)

Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: I someone who is black mailed typically is not allowed to claim that they were blackmailed

It could just be a variant of silencer, but it is sus.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #312)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:09 PM (post #311)

Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: I someone who is black mailed typically is not allowed to claim that they were blackmailed

It could just be a variant of silencer, but it is sus

True. But if there’s a town role that could lead to someone being silenced then they should claim

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:11 PM (post #313)

True. But if there’s a town role that could lead to someone being silenced then they should claim

Yeah, I meant it could be a variant of scum silencer lol

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Mag1cman (3/4): Kohai (p#166), whiteflame (p#288), NoAhLeEcLaRk (p#293)

Helz (1/4): Mag1cman (p#8)

Not Voting (3): Helz, Lunatic, Thoth

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I don't get all the talk around post #100 about Blackmailer + Vanillaizer being OP. It's not that OP if scum have nothing else. Wonky, but not OP

What is Prober?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:27 PM (post #316)

I don't get all the talk around post #100 about Blackmailer + Vanillaizer being OP. It's not that OP if scum have nothing else. Wonky, but not OP

Problem is this is still really powerful especially I. The face of all this negative utility

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:31 PM (post #318)

Problem is this is still really powerful especially I. The face of all this negative utility

Not everyone has claimed, and I figure there is at least one liar among the claimants.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:32 PM (post #319)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:31 PM (post #318)

Problem is this is still really powerful especially I. The face of all this negative utility

Not everyone has claimed, and I figure there is at least one liar among the claimants.

You, Mag1c and Luna are the only ones that haven’t. Unless y’all have some super god powers then we are very under powered here.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:32 PM (post #320)

You, Mag1c and Luna are the only ones that haven’t. Unless y’all have some super god powers then we are very under powered here.

Again, one of the current claimants has most likely lied.

Re: #117, I built my Madoka Magica game on here over an alignment-changing mechanic, and I was astounded to learn that MU considers alignment changes bastard.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:29 PM (post #317)

What is Prober?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Prober

Cop that turns town players they visit Vanilla.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #321)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:32 PM (post #320)

You, Mag1c and Luna are the only ones that haven’t. Unless y’all have some super god powers then we are very under powered here.

Again, one of the current claimants has most likely lied.

It’s probable, though that doesn’t really change the fact that there are surprisingly few town PRs with roles that are unequivocally beneficial to town in the field so far. There are three players, yourself included, who may have information that shifts that perspective, but the rest of us don’t have that insight. Thats balanced against a Vanillaizer and a Blackmailer, which make for a pretty powerful scum team even if they’re 1X shots.

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 5:38 PM (post #300)

So do we believe that Mag1cman is scum?

what do you believe? Duno why it matters what the rest of us believe.

you have to make your own opinions

I will be home in an hour or so. Skimming the thread

I voted for him so yeah I do believe he is scum.

My point would be that you need to make your own opinions. This is a game of lies and deception.

never go with the popular position just because. It makes you look like scum who is more interested in blending in than town trying to solve

Well i'm more suspicious of Lunatic, and I know they are suspicious of you but I'm not yet. "YET"

Well i'm more suspicious of Lunatic, and I know they are suspicious of you but I'm not yet. "YET"