Epstein's Island Mafia DP2

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:51 PM (post #179)

I targeted you two because I had a strong scum read on one of you and a mild Town read on the other. I wanted to see if redirecting a potential Mafia action away from a Townie or forcing a scum PR to target their own teammate would mess up the Mafia's night phase and give us info."

Wait. So did you target or did you not? You said you targeted me but previously said you didn’t act?

Targeted or were going to target???

I did not act, I decided to wait until DP3

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:53 PM (post #183)

I did not act, I decided to wait until DP3

Why so late in the game?

I didn't have enough evidence from others nor Lunatic to actually believe that he was Scum

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:50 PM (post #176)

I’m gonna get some dinner and sign off. I’m animal sitting this weekend and have a bar mitzvah to attend tomorrow. It’s gonna be a brutal weekend

No worries. I have substantial obligations tomorrow as well. Gotta be the adult for an event at my American Legion as well as having to meet with a business partner on a situation thats going sideways which will eat a chunk of the day. I will drop in as I can regardless but I feel like we have a decent 50/50 in front of us. Mag1c is who I am leaning twords right now though. I do not see WF and Mag1c being possible given their claims unless Thoth/Luna say otherwise and Luna has a decent town feel for me even if they are a sneaky sneak who does have the skill to get one past me.

I know it was stupid, and I'm seeing that now, but I promise i'm gonna do my best to get a scum read on someone

Oh god, I discovered the Follow button earlier and I come back to see 128 notifications

At least I have power back temporarily so I can use my computer, which helps

Reading up now

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 10:55 PM (post #188)

Oh god, I discovered the Follow button earlier and I come back to see 128 notifications

At least I have power back temporarily so I can use my computer, which helps

Reading up now

Hey Thoth. Don’t claim but can you confirm if your role may cause someone to be vacillated

Wondering if Noah accidentally slipped

what do you mean "slipped"?

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:57 PM (post #189)

vacillated

Wut

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 9:58 PM (post #191)

what do you mean "slipped"?

It would take me some time to explain how slips really work but the short of it is simply that someone says something that directly contradicts themselves or reveals knowledge they could not have without a wolf chat and such.

I am not seeing what they are in this interaction but thats what they are referencing.

Where have you beeeen all day?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 11:01 PM (post #192)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:57 PM (post #189)

vacillated

Wut

Vanillaize **

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:02 PM (post #194)

Where have you beeeen all day?

Inside my house, I ain't going out into a hurricane

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 10:01 PM (post #192)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:57 PM (post #189)

vacillated

Wut

So we are looking at if balance could exist with Mag1c blackmailed by scum + WF being vanalized / audited / turned into a citizen. It looks like there has to be a scum between those two

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #194)

Where have you beeeen all day?

He’s nocturnal. He posts while all of us normies sleep

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 10:02 PM (post #195)

Vanillaize **

I saw that earlier. No, my role cannot do that.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 11:03 PM (post #199)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 10:02 PM (post #195)

Vanillaize **

I saw that earlier. No, my role cannot do that.

Alright.

If I had a nuke right now I would go Mag1c then WF then Noah and I would bet money its a win.

If Thoth/Luna/Kohai got me fooled at this moment good on them.

there is no slip here, my role is to redirect the action of a potential mafia away from us (Town), could ya'll give me the sentence that looked bad to y'all. We wouldn't want to Lynch a Townie?

Have you ever seen a Town Vanillaizer?

so either

1. Wf is scum lying about being vanillaized and scum does not have a vanillaizer

2. Mag1c is lying about being blackmailed and scum does not have a blackmailer

3. The vanillaizer came from town

What is our suspicion for WF, how did we get that. I may have overlooked some chats, so idk

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 11:04 PM (post #201)

If I had a nuke right now I would go Mag1c then WF then Noah and I would bet money its a win.

If Thoth/Luna/Kohai got me fooled at this moment good on them.

low key agree with this

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 11:06 PM (post #205)

What is our suspicion for WF, how did we get that. I may have overlooked some chats, so idk

The issue is he claimed he was vanilkaized and we are trying to reconcile this with balance

I'm confused, how did we get the suspicion that I am a scum, I can barely play the role of a Redirector without struggling?

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 10:05 PM (post #204)

so either

1. Wf is scum lying about being vanillaized and scum does not have a vanillaizer

2. Mag1c is lying about being blackmailed and scum does not have a blackmailer

3. The vanillaizer came from town

Yeah. Pretty much the long and short of it. I do not see any world where its possible for game balance that scum has both unless some townie has some crazy God level powers.

Why did you say in #37 that Helz/Mag1c are never a team? I agree with Lunatic that this whole post comes off as super tunnelly, just excluding entire teams based on gutreads.