State Attorneys General Mafia DP2

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Originally Posted by wylted on 27/10/2026 at 16:13 (post #242)

We do actually have mago in a verified lie with the hint at being a vigilante

Fascinating. How is that lie pro-scum? I have lied literally every game I've been in, and I lie as Town a lot too

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 10:57 PM (post #218)

I'm seriously just trying to get a handle on your thinking, Thoth, so I'm just going to put the focus in one place. You don't have to respond to the above, just address this.

Why did you want other claims to come in before you were willing to claim? Statements like "it will do more harm than good until more info comes out" imply that even stating that your night action had failed was dangerous prior to getting more claims. Walk me through the logic there. I get that you wanted to see if someone would just claim that they had interfered with your action, but why wait? What was the danger? What was the value in waiting? I get not wanting to claim, but I don't get this.

Right, so I think you are looking for a specific chain of reasoning or a specific role I feared cpuld be in the game, when my reasoning was just that I did not know how other claims would pan out and I was defaulting to not claiming without a speciric reason. Dunno why you seem to think claiming is the default.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 14:13 (post #226)

Originally Posted by wylted on 10/27/2026 at 6:14 AM (post #223)

I personally don't see what a mago or rex claim will get us.

I'm down for lynching on what we got. I also don't think my claim will change anyone's read on me one way or another so that's not going to help narrow down scum either.

Alright, so we have:

WF - Alan Wilson (South Carolina) - Governor

Wylted - Ken Paxton (Texas) - ???

Banana - - Watcher (watched WF NP1, no one visited)

Thoth - Keith Kautz (Wyoming) - 2X Adjudicator (failed NP1)

Kohai/Luna2.0 - Gentner Drummond - Pretender

REF - ??? - ???

Mago - ??? - ???

What's your preference atm?

I’m the Attorney General of Kansas, I claimed earlier today, I’m Vote Thief

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/27/2026 at 10:39 AM (post #245)

Originally Posted by wylted on 27/10/2026 at 16:13 (post #242)

We do actually have mago in a verified lie with the hint at being a vigilante

Fascinating. How is that lie pro-scum? I have lied literally every game I've been in, and I lie as Town a lot too

I dunno if I like that meta as town, but it is true that you lie a lot as either alignment

Originally Posted by Thoth on 27/10/2026 at 16:41 (post #248)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/27/2026 at 10:39 AM (post #245)

Originally Posted by wylted on 27/10/2026 at 16:13 (post #242)

We do actually have mago in a verified lie with the hint at being a vigilante

Fascinating. How is that lie pro-scum? I have lied literally every game I've been in, and I lie as Town a lot too

I dunno if I like that meta as town, but it is true that you lie a lot as either alignment

I’m from Eastern Europe, we are not known for our honesty

Anyways I gotta leave ASAP and will be around again within 45 min for 30 min and after that will be gone for around 8 hours

@Pie if I can conditionally vote. I’d like to vote Banana, Wylted or Rex if either those are the top train at EoD.

Also just a note for future hosts, please don’t use majority, it is the worst voting system. Not everyone has time to be around at EoG and risking a lynch not happening because people aren’t around is just silly. Use plurality with hammering pls

Conditional VTL on Banana

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/27/2026 at 10:42 AM (post #249)

I’m from Eastern Europe, we are not known for our honesty

Since when is the Netherlands Eastern Europe?

Originally Posted by wylted on 10/27/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #241)

I think banana is the only lynch we can pull off unless lunatic is open for something else. The only thing giving me pause right now is the watcher claim was early enough where it held a huge risk of being disproven after she listed the night action.

Maybe so, but I’m not defaulting there just yet. If it ends up being the only choice, I’m not averse to it.

Originally Posted by wylted on 27/10/2026 at 16:46 (post #251)

Fascinating. How is that lie pro-scum? I have lied literally every game I've been in, and I lie as Town a lot too

Pro scum is putting words. In my mouth. I said we had a verifiable lie, not that there couldn't be town motivation behind it.

This is like when you lied by repeatedly stating that I said I should be town read.

Do me a favor and don't claim I am saying something I haven't said.

Also what is your lynch order at?

I think there are two scum in you Rex and Banana. Less sure of this since neither of you seem super scummy tonally. I would be okay with Banana today. If she flips scum I could go for either uou or Rex. If she flips Town then I don’t know. I’ll think anout it tomorrow

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/27/2026 at 11:40 AM (post #246)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 10:57 PM (post #218)

I'm seriously just trying to get a handle on your thinking, Thoth, so I'm just going to put the focus in one place. You don't have to respond to the above, just address this.

Why did you want other claims to come in before you were willing to claim? Statements like "it will do more harm than good until more info comes out" imply that even stating that your night action had failed was dangerous prior to getting more claims. Walk me through the logic there. I get that you wanted to see if someone would just claim that they had interfered with your action, but why wait? What was the danger? What was the value in waiting? I get not wanting to claim, but I don't get this.

Right, so I think you are looking for a specific chain of reasoning or a specific role I feared cpuld be in the game, when my reasoning was just that I did not know how other claims would pan out and I was defaulting to not claiming without a speciric reason. Dunno why you seem to think claiming is the default.

What I don’t get is why you specifically held off on claiming to receive more claims first. I’m not sure what your logic was and I’m still kind of baffled by it. You were hinting that receiving that information would somehow make your claim more important. I don’t love that there is no obvious benefit I can see, to you or any of us, resulting from you waiting to state that your role had failed.

And again, I didn’t say that claiming is the default. I’ve repeatedly pointed to the way you framed that claim and the associated night action as valuable to town, so much so that it had to wait until others had claimed. Framing things that way implies more than just “my role failed.”

I’ve said I’m townreading you and I meant that, mainly because I can’t see all this as a scum gambit. That being said, please consider the way you phrase things like this in the future. I thought you were at minimum breadcrumbing an actual role you’d used. I wouldn’t have gotten so caught up on this if you’d just been clear from the outset that you had no information and your claim wasn’t reliant on that of others coming first.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/27/2026 at 11:41 AM (post #247)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 14:13 (post #226)

Originally Posted by wylted on 10/27/2026 at 6:14 AM (post #223)

I personally don't see what a mago or rex claim will get us.

I'm down for lynching on what we got. I also don't think my claim will change anyone's read on me one way or another so that's not going to help narrow down scum either.

Alright, so we have:

WF - Alan Wilson (South Carolina) - Governor

Wylted - Ken Paxton (Texas) - ???

Banana - - Watcher (watched WF NP1, no one visited)

Thoth - Keith Kautz (Wyoming) - 2X Adjudicator (failed NP1)

Kohai/Luna2.0 - Gentner Drummond - Pretender

REF - ??? - ???

Mago - ??? - ???

What's your preference atm?

I’m the Attorney General of Kansas, I claimed earlier today, I’m Vote Thief

My bad, I remember you saying that and completely forgot when I posted this.

From where I’m sitting, I’m fine either lynching Banana or pushing Rex for a claim (I didn’t realize he was the only totally unclaimed player left in this game). I don’t see a reason why he should get off Scot free when we at least have a character claim from everyone else. And I don’t love his absence from the end of this DP. So for now:

VTL REF

I’ll be around until EoD, so I can shift to Banana if he just doesn’t show up.

Should’ve tagged you on that.

I get the Rex wagon but something tells me he is likely to flip town

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/27/2026 at 12:06 PM (post #260)

I get the Rex wagon but something tells me he is likely to flip town

Is this just a gut read or is this coming from somewhere? I still have no idea what your reads are.

I’ll possibly just follow WF since I don’t really trust my gut thus game. I’m all over the place and keep going back and forth on who I think is scum.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/27/2026 at 11:26 AM (post #261)

Is this just a gut read or is this coming from somewhere? I still have no idea what your reads are.

I am still seeing you as town. Mild townread on Magoroth, and on Lunatic due to Kohai. Banana and Rex are null-ish, but I do get a better gutread from Rex than from Banana. I think I have a gut radar on Rex that I don't have for Banana. That leaves wylted, who I suppose I see as slight town, but I have been hard fooled by him before.

If I had to shoot anyone earlier in this DP, it would be wylted due to higher activity and more opportunities to learn from his previous interactions after he flips, even though I am more sus of Banana

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/27/2026 at 10:45 AM (post #250)

Anyways I gotta leave ASAP and will be around again within 45 min for 30 min and after that will be gone for around 8 hours

@Pie if I can conditionally vote. I’d like to vote Banana, Wylted or Rex if either those are the top train at EoD.

Also just a note for future hosts, please don’t use majority, it is the worst voting system. Not everyone has time to be around at EoG and risking a lynch not happening because people aren’t around is just silly. Use plurality with hammering pls

Conditional VTL on Banana

Theres no conditional voting

Originally Posted by wylted on 10/27/2026 at 11:45 AM (post #266)

I just want to know if you would be open to trying something with your role tonight?

Anything for you daddy

Official Vote Count:

REF (2/4) - Whiteflame, Wylted

Banana (1/4) - Lunatic

Wylted (1/4) - Mago