Jim Carrey Mafia DP1

Oh Donalds, not Donald.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/2/2026 at 5:18 PM (post #28)

Pros and cons of a mass role claim.

Pros:

1. We can finally say we did it, and if it blows up in our face spectacularly we can always point back to Jim Carrie mafia as a cautionary tale.
2. YOLO.
3. Right away we'll be able to eliminate the PRs from the POE.
4. Late claimers or resistors could narrow down the POE still further; weak or shady role claims could narrow down the POE still further.
5. After we tighten the POE as much as reasonably possible, we could demand character claims from those in it, this DP -- so they basically have to think of an entire fake claim, role and character, right out the gate, which is a scum nightmare. They'd have to make their invented role at least sorta kinda fit with their character, and they still wouldn't know which characters of the four are safe, so decent chance to trap them in a CC.
6. We could potentially get a correct lynch DP1.

Cons:

1. It's crazy.
2. Everyone has to agree to it.
3. Ideally everyone should claim at the same time, which is difficult to pull off. It's easy to just stall and plead irl stuff.
4. We give away our roles to scum and basically forfeit the night game. Our PRs would be dead quickly and our mech game would be crippled by the transparency we will have brought on ourselves.
5. Whoever is last to claim will have great advantage if they happen to be scum.
6. We could easily still mislynch despite a mass role claim and then we just dropped our trousers for nothing.
7. Lunatic will have a "smh" attitude with us at endgame and that will just be the worst.

I'll admit, I'm tempted just to let this happen so that we can see how wrong it goes. Not going to support it, but if everyone else does, I'll accede to it.

I will respond to each of Wryly's points in a bit, but my biggest qualm with it is that, if it goes horribly wrong or stunningly right, Lunatic might not like his game effectively ending on day 1

Kinda shitty to do that to someone given that they may have been looking forward to hosting and it will probably be several months before their next turn in the host queue

I did not expect the game to kick off for 2 days from now. I will try to make some showing

There is a reason I was a reserve. I will try to hold myself to my own standard and do better than the last game I played

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/2/2026 at 8:33 PM (post #35)

wasn't it a dude who crashed that jet.

That's not the narrative I feel like going with.

Why not just go for broke and say it was a trans socialist theythem.

You compassionate hand wringers are really cramping my anarchist zest here. It's a perfectly kosher play, it's not like we're breaking his game. It will probably be disastrous anyway.

Oh whatevs. Let's spend the DP poking our fork at odd peas and stray crumbs on our plate as usual.

Mass claim sounds interesting. I’d be down perhaps tomorrow, I don’t want Luna’s game to end instantly on D1.

What if scum has some crazy roles that look towny so beyond character claims, role claims tell us nothing and end up giving scum info?

Mass roll claiming is dumb. Luna disclosed an anticlaim built into the structure of the fake claims. There could be hidden role elements as well - scum could have a role that requires them to guess the targets role, for example. Luna famously hates mass claims and prizes behavioral analysis.

Actually I just read my role PM and I have to SOP claim - I'm the miller.

Shaddap you face

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/3/2026 at 5:10 AM (post #40)

What if scum has some crazy roles that look towny so beyond character claims, role claims tell us nothing and end up giving scum info?

Its possible. Luna has made Masons scum before

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 8:15 AM (post #43)

Actually I just read my role PM and I have to SOP claim - I'm the miller.

Yikes

VTL: Thoth

Let’s get Thoth’s role claim

We need to start pushing people while we have time.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/3/2026 at 10:16 AM (post #49)

Let’s get Thoth’s role claim

Why? Just cause he sucks at it?

Seems as good a reason as any

UNVOTE

VTL: Thoth

Worth mentioning that Thoth won't even be on till like midnight or the wee hours of the morning, so we'll just be doing nothing for ~12 hours but building a wagon.

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 9:17 AM (post #51)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/3/2026 at 10:16 AM (post #49)

Let’s get Thoth’s role claim

Why? Just cause he sucks at it?

yep lol

my soft claim is that my character is played by jim carrey. ur welcome

on the mass claim, im not against it, but town sometimes get scummy roles and if scum if good at fake claiming and have a good role it doesnt get us anywhere just tells scum the power roles. we would need to be confdent in our ability to sus out the role mechanics for this to outwiegh the negtives but if you guys think we can do that i am okay with it. i dont think its gonna break the game or anything tho

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/2/2026 at 2:55 PM (post #24)

I don’t know anything about this theme

u dont know the actor jim carrey? how

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/3/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #58)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/2/2026 at 2:55 PM (post #24)

I don’t know anything about this theme

u dont know the actor jim carrey? how

cause i dont do pop culture lol

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/3/2026 at 10:16 AM (post #49)

Let’s get Thoth’s role claim

Meh. Idk how I feel about this pressure-people-based-on-history stuff.