Jim Carrey Mafia DP1

I worry we sus Thoth and Kohai out of habit more than anything.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 11/3/2026 at 9:32 PM (post #99)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/3/2026 at 8:14 PM (post #93)

Can anyone remember a game on DC where scum claimed a Miller?

I would have to look, but I am pretty sure it has been done on here

Have you found any yet?

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Working. As I said I did not expect this game to start for a few days and even with that assumption I was not sure if I should sign up. This is what I see so far-

The Flavor issue I do not see as that helpful. I did skim Jim Carry's most popular 30 films or so and he is such an erratic actor the majority of them its hard to place him as the good or bad guy. He is often a fuck up and a bad person who somehow does something kinda good in the end. I would explain what I saw more specifically but I feel it would just coach the mafia and be counter productive although I did spend a bit of time on it.

The mass role claim I am not a fan of. Again- to tie a specific role to Jim Carry's behavior in a movie is a mess. Then we would also just hand the mafia a map to kill outing our invests and functions that can stop a kill. And all we get to bet on is a conflicting claim. I just do not see it as a good D1 move.

I did like WFs attention to the process of a mass claim. #96 and #102 looked good to me. I also do have the bias that I generally follow their logic very easily and our play styles match up. They do have the bandwith as a player to make that same level of reasoning as scum so its between very soft town indicator to just NAI. Such are D1 reads

ILikePie5 I have decent feelings about their push on Thoth. Specifically while its opportunistic my meta read on them would be they do not pull punches and shove for advantage as they see it and wanting Thoth to claim to sort them lines up with what I expect from a T! Pie. I also noted that they did not really hammer on Thoth painting them but instead just had a specific reason and focused on it. A while back looking through Pies scum games I did feel they throw the kitchen sink at people as scum grabbing all sorts of positions while as town they are generally more laser focused on a specific issue.

Wryly I do not feel great about. They are initially anti flavor but without great reasoning in #3. I personally do not see the anti-claim mechanic as that impactful in any way but we can simply agree to disagree there. They then pivot from #16 being passively ok with a mass claim into #28 really diving in hard. Then their takes on Rex feel bad. Of very specific note starting in #77 they are shoving that Rex is town because of the miller claim but they are not doing it because "Rex" would not claim miller as scum. Its like a site meta argument thing? That just feels weird to me. Like, I am playing on this site and god help the poor bastard who assumes I would not do something. I have also seen really wild bussing thats rarely seen on other sites here.

Point being that it would have made more sense to me if their argument was S! Rex would not make such a play. It would speak to a mindset of a player examining and individual based upon their actions and drawing a conclusion. The argument that its not site meta is... Ehhh... Fucking weird? This is one of the things that pinged me reading through the thread.

Onto Rex their line is consistant. The 2 issues raised were them not reading their PM for a bit and their miller claim. On the miller side its NAI for me. I do not know them well enough to know the latitude of their plays. I can simply say I have claimed miller as scum and thought nothing of it but I do not have reason to view them and say they would or would not do such a thing. To the other piece what they voiced about the phone makes sense to me. I am not quite sure how to articulate this but such very specific odd details voiced in mafia I have not seen as a lie. Generally the lies people tell are suppose to be convincing. Dude has a phone that does not run discord? Yeah, thats weird. But its one of the few times I will say "Too scummy to be scum" in that its just not a lie I would expect scum to make. While also it does not give me faith that they are town I simply believe this was a true statement and will move on from it.

Thoth is of note. The initial push for a mass claim is something I disagree with as a strategy. But it would take some massive balls to push that as scum. From my soft lizard brain vibes feels that looks more like a T! Thoth to me. But then they kinda dance around the subject which I dislike. They walk back the issue in #106 from pushing it as a real legit strategy into "Well I was just presenting an option" kinda deal. Now while that in itself was one of those 'ehhh' kinda deals the other piece that caught my attention was their progression on Rex. #87 is a holy shit this is so fucking TMI omg kinda post. Then their #111 backs it off to a soft suspicion. This is two potentially inconstant thought lines I noted reading through the thread.

Anyways. Some of what I got skimming a bit. Expect me to participate in bursts for the initial day cycle or two. This day in particular is a problem for my real life obligations and I am seriously pushing myself as far as the hours I am working. I will not have time for a bit to just be active and interact.

iLikePie5 - null

Magoroth - slight scum too quiet

Whiteflame - null

Wylted - =|

Wryly - null

RexFavilla - obvious town

Thoth - slight scum reaction to being pushed for a claim feels off

Helz - slight town vibes

Banana - slight scum vibes

Just because I decided to overexplain everything this game and did not very specifically line it out- My view on Wryly is that its potentially TMI giving a town read because they could be spoiled scum handing town cred with a conclusion that does not match reasoning.

If they are scum they know if Rex is town or scum. They are grabbing a piece I could have seen a town individual looking at and applying meta reasoning to solve Rex but instead they are making angled arguments about if the entire site would make a play? To get super nerdy I would expect someone's mindset hunting to look at an individual and question what they would do. While an argument about site meta does carry anecdotal experience I just find it strange that their mind would jump to external justification of the entire sites patterns while giving such a confident read. That thought process feels like it could come from someone justifying a position with logic more than someone creating a position from logic if that makes sense. Place yourself in Wrylys shoes and consider how they reasoned this position out.

For D1 unless I have time to jump back in before days end and something changes I am mostly considering Wryly or Thoth. I am honestly not thrilled about how we have handled breaking RVS today but its not like I did much to help there.

Has nothing to do with meta. That post was questioning how willing any smart scum player would be to claim Miller. It's a fake claim that puts you in the position of needing a Cop to be in the game but also needing there to not be a Miller already, and since the former makes the latter likelier, who would fake claim it? Sussing the fact that I spoke in broad terms instead of about Rex individually seems like poking at a nothingburger.

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/4/2026 at 11:05 AM (post #126)

I worry we sus Thoth and Kohai out of habit more than anything.

good let's get him claimed so we can quickly move him to the town pile and this won't be an issue in the endgame

He's already at L-2. I imagine we'll be getting a claim from him before EOD.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 12:30 PM (post #131)

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/4/2026 at 11:05 AM (post #126)

I worry we sus Thoth and Kohai out of habit more than anything.

good let's get him claimed so we can quickly move him to the town pile and this won't be an issue in the endgame

He's already at L-2. I imagine we'll be getting a claim from him before EOD.

Honestly just lynch him if she doesn't claim as soon as he gets on he had all last night to do it.

Like we're sitting around not doing shit all day cause Thoth wouldn't claim last night and if we take pressure off the wagon people might not get back on the wagon in time for when he decides to log back on in the wee hours of the morning.

Then let's just consider him at L-1 (I'll commit my vote) and move on. Who's our next person of interest?

Why post #44

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Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/3/2026 at 8:14 PM (post #93)

Can anyone remember a game on DC where scum claimed a Miller?

Wylted did when he was scum with Luna. Forgot the game

And ofc Thoth hasn’t claimed yet. Yall never learn.

There are 4 people who have signaled they want you to role claim, so role claim or get lynched. Pretty simple

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/4/2026 at 12:53 PM (post #138)

Why post #44

because if I was making the game and had a miller that's who it would be. just fun speculation.

Why do scum's work for them?

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 1:32 PM (post #140)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/3/2026 at 8:14 PM (post #93)

Can anyone remember a game on DC where scum claimed a Miller?

Wylted did when he was scum with Luna. Forgot the game

@wyl what game was this

Okay, it was The Pitt mafia, and Miller was given to scum as a fake claim by the moderator. That's different; zero risk there. Here, we know mafia were not given fake role claims. At least, it's implied by the OP.

Also, even if it hadn't been a fake claim provided by the moderator, it was wylted, and wylted does dumb shit. Rex is a different animal.

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