Jim Carrey Mafia DP1

can someone bring me up to speed I’ll try to read this later, how much time is there left?

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/4/2026 at 5:02 PM (post #180)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 04/11/2026 at 22:02 (post #174)

^ u

Sorry, I’ll try to be more active the upcoming days. I’m tired as fuck, worked 7 days in a row and now I’m back at it again.. had a day off two days ago. Just be kind pls

Aw, take it easy man. That's rough.

ok caught up. reads since wryly asked me twice lol

thoth: scum lean. the bus driver claim is the main thing. wf and wryly both said its mostly been a scum role here, and rex’s point that a town bd makes a game this small crazy swingy makes it feel even less likely. he also pushed the mass claim then dodged claiming for like a day, no breadcrumbs like wf said, and the timing being outside his normal hours is odd. his rex read also went from “blatant TMI” to moderately sus to soft sus which is weird

wylted: slight scum but less than i thought. he jumped on the mass claim fast then went after thoth for suggesting it, wf already covered that. my vibes vote on him was weak tbh, i dont have a real case

wryly: slight town. most active and the miller reasoning holds up for me.

rex: town lean. miller claim is risky for scum and the phone thing is too random to be a lie. also he put me at slight scum with zero reasoning so thats a null on that read from me lol

whiteflame: town lean. reads are thorough and consistent

helz: slight town. the wryly read was stretchy tho, wf explained why the site meta argument is fine

pie: null. opportunistic on thoth but thats just pie

mago: null. barely posted but hes tired and asked for a catch up so ill give him that

UNVOTE

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/4/2026 at 5:03 PM (post #181)

can someone bring me up to speed I’ll try to read this later, how much time is there left?

Rex claimed Miller and whether or not that should be townread is being debated. As you know, Thoth pushed for a mass role claim that met with lukewarm response, despite the fact that if I had god-like powers I would have pushed it through just to see what happened. He's being sussed for spearheading the mass claim but hesitating to role claim himself. He's now claimed he's a town Bus Driver.

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/4/2026 at 1:40 PM (post #165)

I wouldn't put it past lunatic to make busdriver a town role, but that and miller seems to be going overboard.

well if its a scum role this would be a good argumnet for why the mass claim is a bad idea. i think thoth is prolly lying tho so i am not saying it is, but we should be pretty sure about it because if we think scummy roles could be town then we are shooting ourselves in the foot with a mass claim.

also i find it ironic if we end up voting thoth for his role but on the same end of the spectrum acklowedge him and his strategy of mass role claiming. because while im not a fan of his role i have to admit that it doesnt help him to suggest a mass role claim when he has a role like that

Lol did I ask twice? My bad. Thank u for the reads.

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/4/2026 at 4:40 PM (post #177)

Town busdriver also makes a game this small incredibly swingy.

DP1 5:2

Lynch

NP1 5:1 - at this point the BD has a 1/6 chance of busdriving the remaining scum and the NK ending the game

NK

DP2 4:1

Mislynch

NP2 3:1 - at this point the BD has 1 1/3 chance of busdriving the last scum and the kill target, ending the game

If the busdriver survives the game becomes incredibly risky for scum. If they have some strong counter to the role it's pointless as a town role. It's different than the redirector because the reditector has to manipulate actions in the right direction, essentially doubling the odds for scum. If they redirect the NK target to the surviving scum, it doesn't end the game. All the busdriver has to do is target both the target and the killer and it doesn't matter, the game is over.

Possibly why town Bus Drivers are rare.

Lunaric just confirmed to me that scum were given no fake role claims.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 3:48 PM (post #189)

Lunaric just confirmed to me that scum were given no fake role claims.

i assumed as much or he would have said in op

Luna confirmed I am not Compulsive

Smh do y'all think I would just claim Bus Driver if I thought it were so scummy? I would sooner YOLO some obscure town role

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 2:11 PM (post #157)

Alas for the lost records.

I been tried to told y'all to back DART Mafia up

Originally Posted by Thoth on 11/4/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #192)

Smh do y'all think I would just claim Bus Driver if I thought it were so scummy? I would sooner YOLO some obscure town role

Maybe you would've YOLO'd an obscure fake role. Maybe you would have panic-yeeted a straight claim. Wifom.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 11/4/2026 at 7:17 PM (post #193)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 2:11 PM (post #157)

Alas for the lost records.

I been tried to told y'all to back DART Mafia up

Hey, I stressed that we back up DART mafia almost as passionately as I stressed that someone other than me should do it.

We should get a counter-wagon started. Who's everyone second sus?

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 5:52 PM (post #190)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 3:48 PM (post #189)

Lunaric just confirmed to me that scum were given no fake role claims.

i assumed as much or he would have said in op

It's good to have things explicitly confirmed. :->

Yeah, so I am still pushing for the mass role claim even with so little time left, but it's not like I am apparently leading any charges here

yeah on second thought i dont think thoth would claim bus driver like that hmm

Tbf as scum in this position I would probably have claimed a wild custom role and banked on people believing that Lunatic was being Lunatic

Way more fun than claiming Bus Driver

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #200)

yeah on second thought i dont think thoth would claim bus driver like that hmm

He’s claimed various outlandish stuff before if my memory serves correct

Vibes based reads based on flow of what I’ve read (still depressed)

WF and REF are lean town.

Wylted, Mago, Helz are null

Wryly and Banana are tilt scum

Thoth is lean scum

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 8:20 PM (post #203)

still depressed

Try this

Why am I being scumread this time?

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 7:17 PM (post #202)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #200)

yeah on second thought i dont think thoth would claim bus driver like that hmm

He’s claimed various outlandish stuff before if my memory serves correct

yeah but bus driver isnt outlandish, its straight a scum role. by outlandish i would think maybe some off kilter role that he thought would be obscure. do u think bus driver is in that category

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 6:58 PM (post #197)

We should get a counter-wagon started. Who's everyone second sus?

pies reads are starting to sus me a bit, they dont make a lot of sense

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/3/2026 at 6:10 AM (post #40)

What if scum has some crazy roles that look towny so beyond character claims, role claims tell us nothing and end up giving scum info?

Can you elaborate? When have scum ever had crazy roles that look towny?

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #208)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/3/2026 at 6:10 AM (post #40)

What if scum has some crazy roles that look towny so beyond character claims, role claims tell us nothing and end up giving scum info?

Can you elaborate? When have scum ever had crazy roles that look towny?

He might have been thinking of the wild roles that were common on Sc2Mafia

Ah, Pie already said like Masons for instance. Hadn't reread that far.

Aside from Rex and Thoth, basically all I have to go on for anyone else is vibes, and I really hate going on vibes. I always sus whiteflame and Pie, so I don't trust my gut on either of them. There's not much to go on for Helz or Mago, and wylted is eh. I have a good feeling about Nana but I always have a good feeling about Nana.