Jim Carrey Mafia Dp3

mago is prolly scum here but I want helz claim before we hammer

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/9/2026 at 3:40 PM (post #31)

mago is prolly scum here but I want helz claim before we hammer

Can we not fucking vote right now, let alone hammer?

Who do you think was most likely to kill Pie?

My thought is that Pie investigated either Wryly or WF NP1. He definitely was defending Wryly whenever someone pushed her last DP. I'm toying with the idea the scum rolecopped Wryly, which is the only thing that makes Wylted's insane quickhammer play make sense as scum. Knowing you can take out the doc and then safely kill Pie. But then again wryly did screech out that she was the doctor before finally ACKing, which was dumb. Don't give scum free info right after they do you dirty like that.

Originally Posted by Banana on 09/11/2026 at 21:03 (post #27)

for soldier not bulletproof

Literally the same. I made up the fake claim without much forethought. I’ve been avoiding the game thread on purpose since I wanted to live to the end, and I didn’t think scum would kill an inactive

wylted has to be scum here or scum would have hammered him, literally just vote wylted and we win

Its also hella convenient for Wylted to ignore one glaring thing - Pie had me outside of his PoE and he as much as pointed this out - why do you think a player like Pie leaves an inactive outside his PoE? Think a little bit

Originally Posted by wylted on 09/11/2026 at 22:56 (post #38)

also clearly my bluff on rex at the beginning of DP2 is not only pointless as scum but also hinted at my role.

You’re so full of shit it hurts, why would Town Tracker fake a track on someone? Exposes you needlessly, you are simply scum.

Town is dar too loaded for a Tracker to fit in.

i mean:

Cop, Doctor, Bus Driver, Roleblocker, Soldier

how the hell does Tracker fit? It simply doesnt

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/9/2026 at 4:52 PM (post #37)

you either know I am town or think I am town. either way it looks good on you just to finish off mago. you essentially admit in your last post that you are accepting my NP2 results of tracking pie to Helz, which is why you didn't speculate on who he visited NP2 and only on NP1

Whom he visited NP2 is irrelevant as he died, so there are no behavioral clues as to what his result was. It makes sense that he would visit Helz, but if that's apparent to me it's apparent to you as well, so you could easily be fabricating a believable result.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/9/2026 at 5:11 PM (post #41)

Its also hella convenient for Wylted to ignore one glaring thing - Pie had me outside of his PoE and he as much as pointed this out - why do you think a player like Pie leaves an inactive outside his PoE? Think a little bit

This is actually a really good argument. Isoing Pie didn't bring this up so it wasn't top of mind for me but people asked him about this and he was mum.

I want Helz to have a chance to weigh in before we end the DP so Banana, keep it in your peel. No voting.

I think Banana’s Vanilla claim is also a really easy way out for scum TBH. She’s the only Vanilla.

Banana/Wylted could easily be the team here

Pie also wanted WF to replace into your slot. It makes sense for him to want a very skilled, active player in a slot he knew was town when you were MIA.

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Magoroth (1/3): wylted (p#19)

Not Voting (4): Magoroth, RexFavilla, Helz, Banana

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Originally Posted by wylted on 11/9/2026 at 6:23 PM (post #49)

this dude lied at MYLO. you are not this dumb so you either trolling or scum.

no competent player let's mago live. you are can maybe play this shit off next DP if you just bus him. also helz is definitely town so what are you doing just sitting back and seeing if he votes wrong!

Magoroth has done retarded shit like lying about his role and hurriedly backpedaling before as town. You've never done something as retarded as randomly hammering the unclaimed doctor well before the DP was over.

A few things pretty quick-

For starters I am Stanley Ipkiss from The Mask. I am a PGO. Thought about lying about that right now but I won't specifically because it may be useful to solve. I softed this in multiple posts pointing out PGO's potential existence as well pointing doubt at a Miller+ a Bus Driver given I also have a potentially negative utility.

For Flavor "The Grinch" feels out of place. Seems like an evil character claim. But if Rex was scum I am not sure why they would claim that. That and the overcrowded negitive utility set are my main concerns. I dislike that they were basically given a full pass this game but they have not pinged me in any substantial way from memory.

Banana bothers me in their claim. They are the only citizen? Every single other player seems to have some function or modifier and they just do nothing? Its strikes me as very odd.

I will also say with Banana their argument that Pie suspected me D2 could be a TMI slip. Look through Pie's ISO- https://www.debatecraft.com/users/ILikePie5/mafia-comments

Some highlights to note (In reverse order)-

Simple POE says Wryly and/or Wylted. Lean Wryly cause she feels different. The push on the inactive is different from her past behavior if I remember correctly. She also seemed wayyyy too okay with lynching Thoth. Almost like an “oh well,” vs if she thought he was town, she’d be defending him.

Pushes a sus on Wylted

Vibes from Wryly have been off all game. She just feels different.

Also pushes Wryly

As much as I disagree with Helz here, I don’t think it’s scummy. His play would be far less erratic imo. Theres no need for him to be erratic here as scum. He’s a very calculated individual. This may be an act, but it’s a very risky act if he were scum

Defends me

I don’t think it’s TMI. Different people can read the same thing and come to different conclusions

Also defends me (asked if my view of WF being a PR was TMI)

And I do want to unpack this argument. To begin with how the fuck would I have TMI that WF was a PR N1? Think that through. I would have to be some kinda scum with a N0 role cop check on a player for it to even be TMI to begin with.

Pie did before this push against my feeling that what Wryly said was out of line. This is the one even opposed argument Pie had with me on D2 that could justify Bananas argument of Pie suspecting me in the slightest.

Nowhere in D2 do they even slightly suspect me. They even actually defended me to the point when I saw their flip I figured they may have actually checked me D1. But then (Important timeline) AFTER Banana made this claim Wylted reveals they saw Pie check me. This is pretty substantial in my mind. Looking at chat an uninformed Banana would have not known that and there is nothing in the chat the even slightly suggests they suspected me that I saw. This is also after a pattern of what I feel like is them painting me D2 on recognizing Whiteflames first post softed a PR. I still feel its very blatant although I get some people seemed to think I was talking about their second post instead of post #2 in the thread.

But to be clear unless Banana has a chat with Wylted their insinuation that Pie suspected me D2 makes absolutely zero sense looking at the chat. This very much does look like TMI to me but would make the team exactly Wylted+Banana if this is a hard slip and their role claim is both a convenient one for scum as well as being out of place for what we now know to exist. Or Banana is just making things up. Had they read Pie's ISO they would literally have been pushing Wylted instead of me right now.

I would like to see a read wall from Mag. The fake claim thing I sorta get. If they have that flavor it makes sense to say BP as a claim hiding soldier to fit flavor even if I dislike the lack of thought given. I would expect if someone crafted their entire world view and decided to intentionally lurk to hide their role and survive they would have taken the time to make a fake claim. Now that the jig is up and thats out the window (if they are town) I want to see more from them. We are in Lylo and I do not have clarity on their position past the 1v1 they are pushing. They did make a good point on the lack of hammer. It demands that its at least WvT between the two of them given scum would have hammered if that was TvT. That is something we should take as a mechanical confirmed aspect. There pretty much has to be 1 scum between Mag and Wryly. I suppose its possible for it to be WvW but that would be pretty wild.

I will again state my day today is pretty busy but I will be around tomorrow quite a bit if people want direct interaction. I will also restate that I feel everyone should re-read Pie's ISO and consider the position Banana took as well as the claim Wylted made.

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/9/2026 at 6:20 PM (post #55)

hold on pie is dead after visiting helz, so I guess it doesn't prove much

I have a meeting I am about to go to and will not be around for a while but I did not alert and I am not compulsive. Pies death was not caused by my role.

I do strongly encourage everyone just to skim Pies ISO and consider how Banana drew the conclusion they suspected me. That pings me really fucking hard and is a critical issue I would like everyone to examine and consider.