Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 7:45 PM (post #270)
any new developments or is Rex and Helz still wafflin
Took my mom to a steak house. Not a waffle house. I would never subject her to that : )
Rex has not returned yet. They said they had shit to do and would revisit things this evening. I actually have not dived back into what I was doing for this game. Been interacting while managing emails and phone calls for work before diving in. But you should shove Wylted to say what they got to say. Its really fucking weird for them to want to not voice their thoughts until twilight. There is no town reason to do that in Lylo.
Look, I have an entire life and after spending a good chunk of today focused on this game
why did you spend that time focusing on the game when you could just hammer? it makes no sense
am not trying to drag the game out and I really do feel like you are just shoving the game as scum
we caught scum and there is nothing new to learn from the DP. why take it up until the last minute? it's silly
That looks so scummy to me
I'm sure waiting until twilight to give an opinion that hasn't changed for the last 24 hours is really more scummy than literally refusing to hammer scum right now. keep telling yourself that.
You still have not clarified what your entire case is btw.
the fact mago is not hammered yet means we know for a fact he is scum. he fake claimed during MYLO got caught and then changed his claim on the spot. it's literally enough reason right there to lynch him.
you would have to think me and banana are a scum team to justify not hammering here. which isn't very likely, and considering there is no world where mago pulls that shit as town in this stage of the game you are needlessly holding up the game.
you can argue me or banana or rex is scum next DP. if you are town than it's idiotic not to hammer and if you are scum, it's even more idiotic because now you have to explain why you didn't lynch obvious scum
any new developments or is Rex and Helz still wafflin
still waffling and both seem to think that mago is most likely scum. rex literally gave an 80% number and helz is openly speculating the scum team is me and Mago so any excuse not to hammer bow is inexcusable
Wylted to say what they got to say. Its really fucking weird for them to want to not voice their thoughts until twilight. There is no town reason to do that in Lylo.
earlier you said that if you were town you were going to game throw if me and bana thought you were scum so there's no point in telling you who the second scum is right now, it's just an excuse to further delay shit
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 6:52 PM (post #271)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 7:45 PM (post #270)
any new developments or is Rex and Helz still wafflin
Took my mom to a steak house. Not a waffle house. I would never subject her to that : )
Rex has not returned yet. They said they had shit to do and would revisit things this evening. I actually have not dived back into what I was doing for this game. Been interacting while managing emails and phone calls for work before diving in. But you should shove Wylted to say what they got to say. Its really fucking weird for them to want to not voice their thoughts until twilight. There is no town reason to do that in Lylo.
ive thrown my lot in with Wylted so im not worried about him. only way he could be scum is if he’s scum with mago or u and pulling some elaborate bus for no reason when he could have just faked a result on someone for an ez win. atp im pretty confident Wylted is town, for me its just a matter of solving between u and Rex
Why do you take their role claim for granted? It looks overcrowded for PR's with a flipped Doc+BD+Alignment Cop+RB before even considering the claims.
Sure they could have made a 'different fake claim' but we could WIFOM that all day. Going direct 1v1 would be open confrontation and it does not seem like Wylted handles that well. Any thoughts on them forgetting their own role name and openly admitting they do not consider the other role they claimed to do the same thing they do? Seems like something that you would not forget. Would be a smudge below forgetting your alignment.
I think his point was that she said pie was somewhat suspicious of Helz?
okay not sure why that would be TMI, it's literally just her opinion likely based on Helz being null or maybe she misremembered something stronger. it's not particularly compelling thought
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/9/2026 at 11:27 AM (post #10)
also pie seemed semi sus of helz last dp, worth noting. not sure if he was killed for who he sussed or if they were pr hunting tho
Not a big deal but I did specifically note that they claimed Pie suspected me D2. They actually seem to have not done so the entire game and defended me D2 with the amusing bit that they suspected Banana and yourself.
Then shortly after they revealed that you reveal having a peek that saw Pie target me D2. Thats where it looks like TMI. Given that there was no in game reason to view Pie as suspecting me. Certainly not in D2 but also not even in D1, But they seem to have reason to believe that Pie did suspect me. Which would make sense if you had some kinda mafia tracking function and shared the knowledge in a group chat making it TMI. That is nothing solid but it is something of note. I am more bothered that its been like pulling teeth to even get people to glance at it and say "Yup, Pie did in fact never say anything of the sort" or Banana just saying "Oh, I was wrong." Its invalidation calling what I saw there unreasonable instead of saying its a simple point of note that has implications on pairing and intention.
Something on you that also pinged me was how your first post today you say I am flatly town, then you turned hard on me. You had Banana as "Different" which I will avoid making assumptions on but the confidence level you have in their alignment seems out of place and I am still asking for the reasoning. To be fair its less to sort them and more me just trying to get you to explain something I honestly do not think you can justify because you have no reasons and want to shut out chat before people recognize your reads are not reads.
I already told you. she doesn't even pretend to scum hunt as scum. I told you to iso her last game. the fact she at least appears to be analyzing behavior is a good indicator she is town.
Something on you that also pinged me was how your first post today you say I am flatly town, then you turned hard on me.
that's correct. I'm willing to change my reads, often and sharply.
I felt like the ignorance of scum having two potential fake claims or if 4 that were real is not something you would feign ignorance of as scum. I think you also seemed to make another mistake about an NK earlier. I can't recall exactly what that made me feel you were town.
I have played in lots of lunatics games over a course of a decade and understand how he normally builds them, how he utilizes PGOs etc, and so they way you described the role I felt was a much stronger indicator of alignment than the earlier things that made me think the opposite.
I think banana was scum the last two times I played and was discovered both times due to terrible scum okay. so I would expect to see something here. it's rare for somebody to improve this much so quickly
I honestly do not think you can justify because you have no reasons and want to shut out chat before people recognize your reads are not reads.
this makes no sense. if you think I am scum then hammer my scum mate mago and take care of me next DP. even if I was scum mates with mago and I would have to be because he is definitely scum it still is a bad reason to delay his lynch. just get him then me
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 9:49 PM (post #281)
I have played in lots of lunatics games over a course of a decade and understand how he normally builds them, how he utilizes PGOs etc, and so they way you described the role I felt was a much stronger indicator of alignment than the earlier things that made me think the opposite.
Speaking of the PGO, I just asked Lunatic what would happen if a bus driver would visit a PGO (target the PGO and another player to switch them) and if the busdriver using his role on the PGO would count as a visit and he said that he wouldn't answer questions about 'hypothetical roles'.
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 8:50 PM (post #282)
I explained. now you explain why you have been avoiding hammering scum.
I want to dig more is why.
Even if you had nothing more to say as town I would expect you to kick your feet up and chill. Not rage at people and shove them to act right now. That makes no sense for town unless you very specifically do not want people digging. Which is part of why I am being so through. I think there is something in this game you do not want me to find and I want to find it. I have re-read the thread already but I intend to crawl through each interaction and turn over every thing I can think of to understand what it is that you do not want us to see.
The more you push me to act right now the more I feel there is 'something' you want to not be talked about. There is just zero reason for your behavior as town even if I ignored the fact you could not even remember your claim which was pretty funny. Only time I have seen town do that was with a guy who was playing multiple games at once and he confused his games. I have seen scum slip on their fake claim. Even trapped one with it once upon a time arguing details of a claim they did not make that they then made up justification for and I closed the trap pointing out they had claimed something else. You just slipped there imo.
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 9:08 PM (post #286)
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 9:49 PM (post #281)
I have played in lots of lunatics games over a course of a decade and understand how he normally builds them, how he utilizes PGOs etc, and so they way you described the role I felt was a much stronger indicator of alignment than the earlier things that made me think the opposite.
Speaking of the PGO, I just asked Lunatic what would happen if a bus driver would visit a PGO (target the PGO and another player to switch them) and if the busdriver using his role on the PGO would count as a visit and he said that he wouldn't answer questions about 'hypothetical roles'.
Yeah, I got similar answers to a number of questions I asked. I think they will only answer direct questions about your own role or revealed roles.
I could ask that question myself but I feel it would be an angleshooty way of me host confirming myself. That stuff is uncomfortable as a host when they are put in a position that can shift the outcome of the game.
there is no reason to put your vote on anyone other than me or mago. if you really think I don't want you putting just place your vote on me. who gives a fuck. like there is nothing left of this DP. when there is nothing left to get out of a dp, why are we dragging it out?
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 9:30 PM (post #290)
can we get the flip before I go to sleep tonight. for the love of God people
I will flatly say I have no intention of voting tonight. If everyone votes and makes me the king maker I still want to wake up with a clear mind tomorrow and reconsider options. I find I do my best intellectual work shortly after I wake up.
if you don't hammer before I wake up to go to work tomorrow I'm just going to get myself mod killed and give scum the game. or self vote either way same result.
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #293)
What is your rush? For real. Its getting to a point that while it was scummy initially now it makes no sense. Almost like a Jester play or something.
name one good reason to extend a dp after you caught scum and got everything possible from it?
I will give you 5.
While I am confident you are scum I need to draw a harder conclusion on Mag.
I feel like you are rushing the game to prevent me from finding something so I am hunting for what that could be.
I want to interact more with Rex and they also have a life and were busy today
I want my own time to Iso each player and do something with information that is rather time consuming. I will not use AI or any bullshit with games but I am perfectly capable of playing with information myself in useful ways.
There is no reason to end the day early. You use the rhetoric 'extend' like the day is not already suppose to be 72 hours as you want to chop the day in the first 24.
How about you give me 1 good reason why we should hammer the day right now? What benefit is there to that? Because I can see a lot of loss and the person arguing to do it is my top scum read who probably slipped with their role claim.
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 9:37 PM (post #295)
if you don't hammer before I wake up to go to work tomorrow I'm just going to get myself mod killed and give scum the game. or self vote either way same result.
Thats really ugly as any alignment. You are better than that. I do not understand your urgency. Tell me you have a dying great grandma or some shit and want to get out of the game and I will consider rushing while also poking for replacements but why the fuck would you threaten to gamethrow if you do not get the game resolved fast?
A lot depends on what I get into with Rex and I do not intend to just vote first thing in the morning unless I am comfortable we have taken Lylo as close to a place of resolution as we can get it. The game pivots on this day. Its the one day to take your time with and I do not understand your behavior. At this point its not even scummy its just absurd.
Thats really ugly as any alignment. You are better than that.
because every single person here already knows mago is scum. everyone here also knows there is not a single useful bit of information left to be gained from this dp.
it's 73 hours in case it needs to be. lylo should rarely go over 12 hours. dp 1 should rarely go over 36 .