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Deltarune Mafia: Chapter 2

Started by Casey_Risk

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ISO #91 •••
--> @Mikal, @Kohai, @RexFavilla, @Shining, @whiteflame

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So far either Mikal and Rex are in cahoots as scum trying to pressure WF because he's being helpful (and RT bandwagoning is strange) or WF is mafia and is playing us like a fiddle.


In any case, Mikal, if you have pertinent information that has to do with someones role why don't you reveal that info? If WF is mafia he will lie about his role anyway, and if he's town he could lie too assuming that a role gives too much away

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ISO #92 •••
--> @Mikal, @Kohai, @RexFavilla, @Shining, @whiteflame

I should specify: if you have information about a role. That is, you know something about a role but not about a player. Obviously if it role reveals or reveals someone else's role maybe that's an issue

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ISO #93 •••
--> @McDonaldsReal

Because I’d prefer not to say what I have until I see inconsistency in information that is provided.

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ISO #94 •••
--> @Shining

It’s not light vs dark but I do think that functions as a soft claim for you.

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ISO #95 •••
--> @Mikal

The more I keep thinking about this push for my role, the more I'm leaning towards you being town. The issue is that I wouldn't just be revealing my role to you, so how I read you isn't the only thing on my mind.


So, while I'm not going to claim yet, I'll at least give two tidbits about what I did.


I did visit someone, and if you actually knew who I visited (I don't believe you do), you almost certainly would not be asking for this information.

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ISO #96 •••
--> @whiteflame

can you claim a result?

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ISO #97 •••
--> @Mikal

I already said I do not have a result.

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ISO #98 •••
--> @whiteflame
I am sincerely at a loss regarding this vote. You should be more confident than anyone here that you have the name of at least one scum on that list of three. Why is my claim your priority?


1. Mikal is in the POE. If I can clear him that brings us down to two.

2. If you are scum and we eliminate you today then that significantly increases odds of winning.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #99 •••
--> @whiteflame
I already said I do not have a result.


Did you make an attempt and was role blocked?

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #100 •••
--> @whiteflame
I already said I do not have a result.


Did you make an attempt and was role blocked?

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #101 •••
--> @whiteflame
I already said I do not have a result.


Did you make an attempt and was role blocked?

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #102 •••

Sorry for inactivity everyone I'll catch up and give my thoughts in an hour or so

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ISO #103 •••
--> @Kohai
1. Mikal is in the POE. If I can clear him that brings us down to two.


Why wouldn't you seek his claim first, then?


2. If you are scum and we eliminate you today then that significantly increases odds of winning.


...which entirely defeats the purpose of focusing on the pool of three players you got and expands the number of claims you're seeking to four. Three was already substantial, but expanding on that is even more of a problem with anti-claim mechanics in play.


Did you make an attempt and was role blocked?


I can confirm my night action was successful.


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ISO #104 •••
--> @whiteflame
2. If you are scum and we eliminate you today then that significantly increases odds of winning.


...which entirely defeats the purpose of focusing on the pool of three players you got and expands the number of claims you're seeking to four. Three was already substantial, but expanding on that is even more of a problem with anti-claim mechanics in play.


No, it doesn't. The point here is to try and clear as many people as possible and confirm as many people as town as we can. If we can confirm Mikal is town that narrows down the original POE to two.


I'm strongly learning to Mikal being town.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #105 •••
--> @whiteflame

Would you at least be willing to say who you visited?

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #106 •••
--> @Thoth

If you were a flavored dayvig and had to shoot either Whiteflame or Mikal right now, which would you shoot and why?

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ISO #107 •••
--> @Kohai
No, it doesn't. The point here is to try and clear as many people as possible and confirm as many people as town as we can. If we can confirm Mikal is town that narrows down the original POE to two.

I'm strongly learning to Mikal being town.


I have reason to townread him too, but if that's the case, why not focus on either of the two other people in your set of three? By this logic, you've got a 50-50 chance of picking scum out between Thoth and Shining, but you're focused on me because Mikal has some information relevant to what I did last NP.


Still, you're the one who has the most reason to buy that they're in POE at this point, dude, not me. If you think getting my claim is more important than pursuing information you've said you have available to you now, I'll do it, but it's a big mistake.

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ISO #108 •••
--> @Kohai
Would you at least be willing to say who you visited?


That would be the equivalent of claiming my role.

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ISO #109 •••
--> @whiteflame
That would be the equivalent of claiming my role.


How so? Also, is your role / result capable of confirming your target as town?

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #110 •••
--> @Kohai
How so? Also, is your role / result capable of confirming your target as town?


...if I explained why, this would get super obvious. You either accept what I'm telling you or you're seeking my claim.


No, but it can confirm or disprove something about my target.

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ISO #111 •••
...if I explained why, this would get super obvious. You either accept what I'm telling you or you're seeking my claim.

No, but it can confirm or disprove something about my target.


In what way would it confirm or disprove something about your target?



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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #112 •••
--> @whiteflame

Here's an idea: You tell us who you targeted. The person you targeted makes a claim and you can confirm or disprove that.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #113 •••
--> @Kohai
In what way would it confirm or disprove something about your target?


Again, if I tell you, I'm giving away my role. Take the hint, man.

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ISO #114 •••
--> @Mikal

Not a role thing but I have heavy town reads for WF right now

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ISO #115 •••
--> @Kohai
Here's an idea: You tell us who you targeted. The person you targeted makes a claim and you can confirm or disprove that.


*sigh* Do I really have to repeat myself? I've now said this multiple times, but I'll say it again: if I say who I visited, it gives away what I am.

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ISO #116 •••
--> @Mikal, @Kohai

Yeah I don't think he's scum. I know I can't like say "trust me bro" but I have a read on WF. Wish I could private DM but it would go out to everybody. But if what you say is true Mikal it's not them



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ISO #117 •••
--> @whiteflame
*sigh* Do I really have to repeat myself? I've now said this multiple times, but I'll say it again: if I say who I visited, it gives away what I am.


Here's the problem: Assuming you and Mikal are town we now have two outted power roles. if both of you are town one of you is going to die. That's why we need something. If you die we can review your results and make progress.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #118 •••
--> @Kohai
Here's the problem: Assuming you and Mikal are town we now have two outted power roles. if both of you are town one of you is going to die. That's why we need something. If you die we can review your results and make progress.


I feel like I've hinted every way I can to prevent this, and you are literally the person that should be picking up what I'm putting down, so fuck it. I'll embrace the fact that I'm almost certainly dead tonight: I targeted you. I'm the Caroler. Happy? I know I'm not.

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ISO #119 •••

Unvote


In your role does it say how many wolves are guaranteed to be in the result? Does it say one or at least one?

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #120 •••

VTL Mikal

If Mikal knew that you visited me and that I already revealed my results then it looks like Mikal was trying to PR hunt.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein