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Ranger’s Apprentice Mafia DP4

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Lynched DP1:


Mikal - You are Evanlyn. You are actually Princess Cassandra of Araluen, hiding your true identity to protect yourself while in Celtica. You adopt the name Evanlyn and pretend to be a lady’s maid, traveling with Will and Horace during their mission against Morgarath. By disguising yourself, you avoid drawing attention as a high-value target, especially when captured by the Skandians. Your ability to act humbly and dress simply allows you to blend in with commoners, keeping your royal background hidden. Because of this, you are the Compulsive Hider. Each night, you must select a player. If that player dies, you will die as well. You win with the Town.



Died NP1:


Whiteflame - You are Horace. You are known as The Oaklanf Knight in the Kingdom of Araluen. Orphaned at an early age, you went to Battleschool in Redmont Fief and grew up to be a formidable swordsman. You challenged Morgarath at a very young age and defeated the Rebel Lord in single combat. Later, you traveled through Gallica and defeated various swordsmen as well. Without your sword, the Kingdom of Araluen would’ve fallen multiple times. Because of this, you are the 1x Duelist. During one day, you may challenge a player to a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors freezing the DP. Whoever loses will serve as the lynch for that DP. If there is a tie, both of you will live, but the DP will end. You win with the Town.



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Lynched DP2:


Casey - You are Alyss. You trained under Lady Pauline to be a Diplomat in the Araluen Diplomatic Corp. You and Will went on a mission in Norgate Fief to learn about the mysterious death of Lord Syron. There, you were captured and hypnotized by Sir Keren. Thankfully, you were able to coordinate with Will using the Diplomatic Code, which gave him information from the inside. Because of this, you are the Emissary. You start the game with reliable information of the identity of one town-aligned player in the game. Here is your hint: This character is from Redmont Fief. You win with the Town.



Died NP2:


RationalTheist - You are Tug. You are Will’s Ranger Horse. Like all Ranger horses, you cannot be ridden unless you tell the horse a codeword. In the event someone tries, you buck them off. Your passcode is funnily enough: “Do you mind.” Another trait of yours is that you can detect danger before it reaches your rider, which has saved Will’s life countless times. Anyone who wishes to do your master will likely be stopped before because of your ability to detect danger. Sometimes though, this puts you in harm's way, such as when you almost got impaled by a boar, but thankfully left unscathed. Because of this, you are the Asceticizer. Each night, you may target a player. That player will be immune to non-lethal actions. You win with the Town.



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Lynched DP3:


Mharman - You are Halt. Your presence alone is intimidating. You walk into a room and people fall silent. Kings listen to you, enemies fear you, and your fellow Rangers look to you for guidance. You fight with precision and move like a shadow, but when the moment calls for it, you strike with deadly force. But perhaps your greatest strength lies in your mind and heart. You outthink your enemies and plan battles that turn the tide of wars. Your actions alone led to the defeat of Morgarath’s army, not once but twice. Your actions led to the defeat of the Temujai in Skandia as well. You simply cannot be defeated while being the tactician of a war or battle. Because of this, you are the 1x Strongman. One night you may choose to execute the NK. That kill will be unstoppable. You win with the Mafia.



Died NP3:


REF - You are the Kalkara—a silent, relentless hunter. With a single gaze, you paralyze your prey, locking them in fear, helpless to move or fight back. You were used as a weapon to assassinate Lord Northolt and Lord Lorriac. You also almost succeeded in assassinating Halt, but failed. Few can resist you, and only those with an iron will stand even the slightest chance of breaking free. Your thick fur shields you from blades, arrows, and axes alike. You sprint with deceptive speed, leaping across great distances, outpacing even the fastest Ranger horses and battle-trained steeds. The major weakness you have though is your waxy skin, which is used to kill you. Because of this, you are the 2x Weak Roleblocker. Each night, you may select a player. That player will be roleblocked. However, if you select a member of the mafia, you will also die. You win with the Town.



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Remaining Players:


1. Lunatic

2. Thoth

3. Wryly



With 3 players remaining, it takes 2 players to lynch. The day phase will end in 72 hours on Saturday September 6th, 2024 at 5:00PM CST.


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ISO #2 •••
--> @Lunatic

Up to you now. I protected Rex last NP. That he died anyway means Thoth's power has a roleblocker. Probably no tracker element to it at all. He only ever tracked his own scummate and someone who'd already declared who he visited. I VTL'd Magic, Thoth waffled.


VTL Thoth

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ISO #3 •••

If I have vastly misread this and it turns out to be Luna/Magic I will, of course, be moving to Siberia.

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ISO #4 •••

Official Vote Count:


Thoth (1/3) - Wryly

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ISO #5 •••

Official Vote Count:


Thoth (1/2) - Wryly



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ISO #6 •••
--> @Wryly

What? Your protected Rex and he still died? I guess mafia could have a strong man.


anyways I’ll post later, need to sleep some more

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #7 •••
What? Your protected Rex and he still died?


Yep.


After Magic's lynch I knew it was either Magic/you or Magic/Thoth. If it had been Magic and you, Rex wouldn't have survived his visit to you NP2. So I knew Thoth was scum. He wouldn't want me dead, it would out him by POE.


Then it was a count flip between protecting you or Rex. Would Thoth think he had a better chance of convincing you to lynch me or convincing Rex to lynch me? Probably you. You had townread him pretty hard DP3 while Rex had scumread him DP3.

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ISO #8 •••
--> @Lunatic

tag

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ISO #9 •••
Then it was a count flip


*coin flip

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ISO #10 •••

Did you receive any message that your action failed?


he is 2x so he couldn’t have died based on his visit

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #11 •••
--> @Lunatic

Nope.


The mafia wiki said doctors don't get informed if their night actions are successful, I haven't gotten a message about any of my night actions

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ISO #12 •••
--> @Lunatic, @Wryly

Lunatic is probably town because, as Wryly pointed out yesterday (Post #123), Rex would have died from visiting Luna if he were scum, although I can’t rule out redirection, though. With that in mind, the game probably comes down to which one of us Luna thinks is scum, although I’ll withhold my vote for now on the off chance it’s Luna.


I tracked Wryly last night and saw her visit Rex.


Wryly might have claimed to have waived NP1 to explain why a Strongman kill was not blocked. Re:Luna, yes, mafia had a Strongman, see Magic’s role flip.

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ISO #13 •••

Watch Wryly claim she visited me or Luna and she just caught me lying about being Tracker.

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ISO #14 •••
--> @Thoth

If it was Luna he would've hammered you already.

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ISO #15 •••
--> @Thoth

Bro. If you were town you would be VTLing me. You know Luna is innocent because he didn't hammer you as soon as I VTL'd you. Why wait unless you're stalling until you can flip Luna to me and then hammer a mislynch.


Watch Wryly claim she visited me or Luna and she just caught me lying about being Tracker.


I'm lost. Why would I do this? I already said I protected Rex.

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ISO #16 •••

If Halt is scum what the hell is the theme split.

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ISO #17 •••

Confirmed town: Morgarath, Alyss, Evanlyn, Horace, Tug, the Kalkara, and for myself I can add Malcolm to that list


Confirmed scum: Halt


???

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ISO #18 •••

Halt is apparently Hibernian. Don't tell me it was Aruleans vs non-Aruleans?


Are the Kalkara from Arulean?

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ISO #19 •••

The Kalkara are from the Mountains of Rain and Night, which I guess are south of Araluen, which I have been confidently misspelling for I assume the whole game.


idk what the theme split is

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ISO #20 •••
--> @Wryly

You are right that Luna must be innocent because he didn’t instahammer. I’m tired and not thinking that clearly. I’ll vote you now and leave it to Luna to decide when and where to drop the hammer. If I’m stalling, well, yeah, I’d like if Luna could at least give me a couple hours to take a nap and come back when I’m refreshed.


VTL Wryly


I’m beginning to suspect that the split is Halt / Will Treaty and Wryly is Will. That does seem to go against Casey’s role mentioning Will as the source of her information, but, then again, her card says there is one town-aligned player from Redmont Fief, not only one player period, and it does specify information “from the inside”. Apparently, Will Treaty is like a son to Halt. This doesn’t reflect that well on me either since Halt mentored Gilan, but there are a lot of characters linked to Halt in some way, and Will seems the most tightly linked.

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ISO #21 •••

Official Vote Count:


Thoth (1/2) - Wryly

Wryly (1/2) - Thoth

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ISO #22 •••
--> @Thoth

If you're town, why did you read Magic visiting himself? That "mirror maker" shit? Luna has no such power. Neither did Rex. If I'm Magic's scummate, I certainly wouldn't have tried to redirect him. You've claimed you're a tracker. We know Magic was a Strongman, has no reason to visit himself voluntarily.


Te only way I can figure it is if after Luna shared the dreamer results, both you and Magic knew you had to claim something, so you claimed tracker and had Magic vouch for your results.

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ISO #23 •••
--> @Thoth

If Magic had carried out the NK on Mikal, you would have tracked him visiting Mikal that night. But you didn't, you tracked him visiting himself. That means he would've had to use his 1x Strongman power NP1, when it made the least sense to.


Which still doesn't answer the question of who bounced his Strongman power back at him. No confirmed townie had a role power that could do that. And if I'm scum, I wouldn't have interfered with my scummate. That leaves only the possibility that you're lying.

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ISO #24 •••

Also it means you're a 3x tracker and idk why Pie would do that when everyone else's powers were 1x or 2x


Also it would mean Magic advised me to claim doctor and then say I protected him, my scummate, which would be stupid


Also wouldn't Magic have advised me not to jump on the Mikal wagon and stay low profile instead, like you did


Also why VTL me last DP instead of trying to turn the suspicion up on you

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ISO #25 •••

I’ll be at work in 30 minutes and I’ll post my reads and decision

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #26 •••
--> @Wryly
If you're town, why did you read Magic visiting himself?

I don't know. I'm guessing that you redirected him for some godforsaken reason I can't begin to guess at.


If I'm Magic's scummate, I certainly wouldn't have tried to redirect him.

"Certainty" is a strong word given that your role hasn't flipped and there is no indisputable evidence of a Doctor since every night has had a night-kill, notwithstanding the Strongman. You could say that Strongman being in the role setup is proof of some protective role, but we had a Hider, and Pie confirmed to me that a Strongman would kill a Hider (no, that's not a scumslip, I asked him after Magic's role flipped) if targeted at them, plus I don't know whether or not Doctor would have saved Rex if he role-blocked scum. Again, I don't know why Magic visited himself, but I think you do.


Also it means you're a 3x tracker and idk why Pie would do that when everyone else's powers were 1x or 2x

False. Mikal and RT both had unlimited uses, and Casey's ability was passive.


If Magic had carried out the NK on Mikal, you would have tracked him visiting Mikal that night. But you didn't, you tracked him visiting himself. That means he would've had to use his 1x Strongman power NP1, when it made the least sense to.

NP1? You mean the NP1 when you supposedly waived your Doctor ability, so there was an excuse for a townie dying despite the presence of a Doctor? Not to suggest that I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that whiteflame was town.


Also it would mean Magic advised me to claim doctor and then say I protected him, my scummate, which would be stupid

"Stupid" is another strong word, but it would befit a noob, so, yes, it's plausible that he told you to do this to farm noob cred.


Also wouldn't Magic have advised me not to jump on the Mikal wagon and stay low profile instead, like you did

That's a creative way of spinning the fact that you were on that wagon and I was not. Again, not to say that I knew for a fact that Mikal was scum.


Also why VTL me last DP instead of trying to turn the suspicion up on you

Only if by "instead of" you mean in addition to.


Would you care to explain why Halt has flipped scum and Will Treaty is in a "mentor/student relationship which develops into more of a father/son relationship" with Halt? Source. You're not really telling me you missed that, are you?


If Halt is scum what the hell is the theme split.


For that matter, you could have pushed me as scum straight-claiming, since Gilan was Halt's apprentice, and the fact that you did not shows me that you were afraid to bring up connections between Halt and any other characters.

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ISO #27 •••
--> @Lunatic

Tagging you in hopes that it will increase the probability that you see my latest post before voting.

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ISO #28 •••

I suggested that Wryly redirected Magic to himself for some bizarre reason, but I suppose there is a non-negligible chance that Magic never visited himself and Wryly has an ability that can feed townies false information. I doubt it, but I guess it's possible.


It also just occurred me to that Wryly's justification is probably the cleanest of any role that has flipped or been claimed so far, even considering that I just said that I am Gilan, Tracker and nobody questioned it or asked for a paraphrase from my mod PM. As Wryly said herself (Day 2, Post 73), claiming her character practically claims her role. That strikes me as symptomatic of a fake-claim, although, in fairness, either you or Magic probably could have concocted a less straightforward but still believable fake-claim and justification. Also, it seems to me that Malcolm is, while not exactly a minor character, less important than many or most characters that have flipped, which makes me think that you exhausted at least one of your questions about who was in the game before you settled on Malcolm.

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ISO #29 •••
--> @Thoth

You're guessing I redirected my own Strongman scummate? What possible reason would I do that?


And making a case that Magic used his 1x Strongman on the first night phase is wild. That's the night when there is the least chance of a townie with a protective role shielding your NK target. Wouldn't you want to save that for when the choices are much narrower and there's a higher chance your NK might be blocked?


Would you care to explain why Halt has flipped scum and Will Treaty is in a "mentor/student relationship which develops into more of a father/son relationship" with Halt? Source. You're not really telling me you missed that, are you?


?


What does Will Treaty have to do with anything


For that matter, you could have pushed me as scum straight-claiming, since Gilan was Halt's apprentice, and the fact that you did not shows me that you were afraid to bring up connections between Halt and any other characters.


I don't get what you're driving at. what does that make the scum split? Mentor/apprentice vs everyone else? Am I have a blond moment here or something.

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ISO #30 •••
--> @Thoth
I suggested that Wryly redirected Magic to himself for some bizarre reason, but I suppose there is a non-negligible chance that Magic never visited himself and Wryly has an ability that can feed townies false information. I doubt it, but I guess it's possible.


I have no idea what power could do this. You're saying I just happened to target you in particular with this power NP1? That would be a pretty random shot in the dark, I had no reason to think you were a tracker at that point. And if I had that power, why didn't I use it again last NP to stop you from tracking me?

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