Blood on the Clocktower endgame

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I think this is a chapter in this site's Mafia history that we would all rather leave behind us, but I might as well post a belated endgame thread. I cancelled this game because nobody seemed to be having fun, and also because the game was looking townsided. I said several times that I thought the setup was balanced, and I stand by that assessment, but a theoretically balanced game can become unbalanced when nobody knows what's going on. There are multiple reasons why this game works better in real life than on a forum, but probably the biggest one is that you can quickly crash and burn through a few games in one session to learn the rules and see how aspects of the game's design that might look stupid or nonsensical at first are part of a complex machine with many moving parts meant to work together.


Scum also got the short end of the stick on night 0, with multiple investigatives inculpating them and whiteflame blindly poisoning wylted. I don't think it was unsalvageable since wylted could show up as Town to Shining and awesome5000 at my discretion, which I would have done since scum were doing so badly, but Evil would have had an uphill battle when everyone was too tired of the game to coast along.


Role list:


awesome5000 - Fortune Teller (wrong Soldier shown to Washerwoman)

Banana - Chef

ILikePie5 - Imp

Kohai - Ravenkeeper

Magoroth - Soldier (Red Herring; shows as Demon to Fortune Teller)

Neros - Washerwoman

RexFavilla - Virgin

Shining - Empath

whiteflame - Poisoner

wylted - Spy


Covers shown to Demon: Monk, Slayer, Undertaker


Night 0 actions:


awesome5000 checks whiteflame and ILikePie5. He learns that one of them is the Demon.

Banana learns there is 1 pair of Evil players (whiteflame/wylted).

Neros learns that awesome5000 or Magoroth is the Soldier.

Shining learns that 1 of his living neighbors, whiteflame, is Evil.

whiteflame poisons wylted.

wylted, who is Poisoned, receives false information. I showed him a totally wrong role list except for the identity of his evil teammates in hopes that he would quickly realize something was wrong and open chats with them to figure out what was wrong. wylted and whiteflame eventually caught on. I wonder if I should have given wylted correct information since Good had such a strong night 0, but then he might have wondered if it was wrong.


I'm not going to give a play-by-play of the game here since I don't think anyone really cares that much, but I can offer commentary about what went on behind the scenes if you want. Just one thing I want to point out: How in the blue mother of fuck did people let Pie get away with opening a chat with everyone in the game? This is a testament to what you can get away with by saying you are doing it without extra comment or drawing attention to it. I would say that only Pie has the aura to get a pass on bullshit like that, but I wouldn't have believed that even he could do it.

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Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.

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--> @awesome5000, @Banana, @ILikePie5, @Kohai, @Magoroth, @Neros, @RexFavilla, @Shining, @whiteflame, @wylted

Endgame up

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Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.

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Yeah, things were pretty messy with this one. Didn't help that I'm almost always scum and people regularly feel the need to check me, which would either have been really good for me or really bad.

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Still, it's a nice experiment and I think something like this could work with some tweaking.

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Thoth needs to run his next setup by someone. I’m willing. The other people who are capable are Pie, Lunatic, and Mikal.

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I still don’t know what to type!

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--> @Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/22/2026 at 8:34 PM (post #5)
Thoth needs to run his next setup by someone. I’m willing. The other people who are capable are Pie, Lunatic, and Mikal.

Agree

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

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--> @Kohai


Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/22/2026 at 8:40 PM (post #6)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/22/2026 at 8:34 PM (post #5)
Thoth needs to run his next setup by someone. I’m willing. The other people who are capable are Pie, Lunatic, and Mikal.
Agree

Oops wrong endgame thread

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I still don’t know what to type!