Pro
#1
FORFEITED
Burden of proof is on Con.
Incels are defined as involuntary celibate.
I will be arguing that what people usually consider incels arent actually involuntary celibates.
Round 1
1 of 2
Pro
#1
Con
#2
So let's begin by deconstructing and assessing Pro's opening gambit ,which is:
INCELS DONT EXIST IN MOST CASES.
Incels plural, implies Incels, therefore Incels don't exist is a contradiction, and further contradicts the idea of most cases. Notwithstanding that most cases infers some cases, which further contradicts the primary assertion that Incels don't exist.
INCELS ARE DEFINED AS INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE.
Incel: A member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically with views that are hostile towards women and men who are sexually active.
Round 2
2 of 2
Pro
#3
No one is really incel, anyone can pay a prostitute or apply other means of getting women if he wants.
Con
#4
Firstly, my apologies for posting an incomplete argument in round 1. I'm not sure if this was due to a system error or a user error, though given my opponents forfeiture, I think it fair for me to assume a round 1 victory.
Nonetheless further to that, we see in their round 2 submission, that my opponent suggests that an Incel as defined does not voluntarily abstain from sexual practices. Notwithstanding that celibacy is formerly a religious ritual practice anyway. Though whether or not Incel's are a specifically recognised and classified grouping of individuals is not in question in this particular instance and is therefore a moot point.
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@ChatKnight
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That is totally different. Assuming "incel" literally refers to actually involuntarily celibate people (which it doesn't anymore due to semantic drift, then this definition would mean people are denying themselves the free will (or quasi-free will) that they have, which should not be possible. Being lonely is an attribute that does not conflict with anything else. What is impossible is being involuntarily lonely in the same sense that true "incels" are impossible.
Some people say that incels don't really exist because they claim that anyone who can't find a romantic partner is choosing to be alone by acting mean or being rude to others. But this argument doesn't make sense because it's like saying that lonely people don't exist—they do exist, and they're real people who feel sad and isolated.
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@GreatfulGoy
I think I already hinted a lot of arguments I will use here. this isnt to say Con position is unwinnable, I am sure Con will come up with something too.
semantically you decide to be celibe, practically no if you're an asshole
True. Celibacy needs to be voluntary. I get the semantics.
Like Eric Cartman?