gender identity shouldn't exist

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Anti-AI debate, if the opponent shows signs of moral superiority towards me I won't finish the debate

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we can do this in two ways, now I'm a lil tired but that's okay.


all of historical anthropological literature denotes that the cult of personality and roles within groups of people, penalizes the group that isn't part of the cult or the specific role. see the researches done about the two bodies and their implications.


gender roling is just a category that aims since the dawn of time the segregation of specific groups based on the physical capacity.


we are all fck humans, what I can't do, maybe you can do it, and if you can't do something, it is possible that maybe some would likely succeed in that thing.

be free, it's useless to have categories that only aim to divide and harm ourselves

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Gender identity should exist first and foremost because people identify their genders.


So identities exist due to that which identity is based from.


All things should exist by their cause.


All identities exist based on the existence of a thing.


A thing called gender exists and is therefore identified so genders should be identified like a container of water should be hot if the temperature of 100 degrees exists in it and of course the number is identified so forth and so on.


That's the first thing in regards to ontology and teleology.


Second point, gender identity should exist is due to social and legal climate.


Just like voting rights for women should exist due to social and legal climate.


All lobbying, petitioning, rallying and protests should cause the effect of what it does which is why protestors do what they do with the information of what SHOULD be done to bring about what SHOULD happen.


The opposite side can argue the basis what should be.


However the basis won't exist being that genders exist already.



Let me respond to some things the opposite side has stated.


"gender roling is just a category that aims since the dawn of time the segregation of specific groups based on the physical capacity."


Gender roles have been established by their nature like light and the dark .


The lightness and the darkness have categorize themselves innately. We recognize the ontology and communicate it in language.


"it's useless to have categories that only aim to divide and harm ourselves"


Ok well having female and male categories divide that which is the truth in benefiting us such as what each can only do and may have to aid to the other in deficiency.


So it works and is useful by the perspective taken.

Round 2

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Gender identity should exist first and foremost because people identify their genders.
So identities exist due to that which identity is based from.
All things should exist by their cause.

mate seriously? it's not the topic I'm discussing, it's not something to philosophize about, it's about sociology facts.


Gender roles have been established by their nature like light and the dark .


listen, the binary assignment of gender to the effective biological sex in our era is dangerous for a bunch of reasons I'm not gonna get involved, they're too difficult to explain and you should really be into sociology and social sciences to understand. Despite that, actually according to Gayle Rubin, notorious anthropologist and sociologist, according to the "sex/gender system", gender isn't something that you have to keep forever and that first of all is reasonably due to ongoing period at that time, trans people weren't considered as people and there were fight for women's rights and overall equal rights and equity in the decisional weight given to the society roles, that were within society itself.


That is the prove that gender isn't actually something necessary to get benefits about, unless you're a man or privileged person.


Gender continues to be a social barrier that's no longer acceptable.



And also, biological sex is about having the cock or the pussy, not about what someone can do and can't.

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I like when people make not the effort to distinguish the format at least between who says what.


Just out of courtesy for people reading, that is what I did at least. Now if I miss something, you know why and that is because of the lack of effort from the opposing side. Make time for arguments longer so there's more time to format appropriately.


I like to thank the opposing side for the short topic and albeit not much thought was given to come up with the topic, I appreciate the opportunity of participation.


So looking at what the gist of what the opposing side had to say in spite of the vulgarity of language, the opposing side has no clear foundation of what gender is for the opposing case but just what is based on by somebody named Gayle Rubin.


The opposing side said "according to Gayle Rubin".


There's an example of distinguishing the format of who said what. There we go. Straightforward.


So this wasn't much of a debate but a venting of an opinion based on Gayle Rubin according to Gayle Rubin.


So it is what it is with that.


If you or anyone wishes to have live discussions like this, send me a message, we can make arrangements.


Peace be.


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"if the opponent shows signs of moral superiority towards me I won't finish the debate"

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