Is death really for certain?

Is death guaranteed?

No, the ancient philosophers already worked out forms and basis. While forms are temporary and changing, basis which form comes from can never change. In other words, your current forn is just one of forms you can have, and your basis cannot be destroyed by death. Only form can die because its temporary, not the basis core which is eternal.

To put it in a simple language, there is temporary and there is eternal. Eternal can never die. The body may die, but the core which created it remains.

There obviously are basic parts which person is made of, smallest possible parts, and these parts cannot be destroyed.

Ancient philosophers talked of changing forms and non-changing forms.

Non-changing forms must exist, otherwise ability to identify anything doesnt exist.

For example, I change as I age. But people still know its me, even tho I changed. So something had to stay same, or people wouldnt be able to even know about me.

Truth demands "non-changing truths". Truth which changes isnt permanent truth.

All things which change must have the core which doesnt change, and which creates them. Because they are created, they need to have something which created them, and that something is their core.

1. Stephen Hawking, the scientist, took a pragmatic view of what happens to the brain and body after death. “I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail,” he told the Guardian. “There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.”

Define death.

I define death as seperation from God. In which case, yes, death is certain for many, but not all.

Your opening post made me think of Ron Manager.

Nonetheless, I think that I'm right in saying that there isn't a person who hasn't died...Actually, that doesn't make sense.

Wasn't a person that didn't die...Hmmmmm.

Hasn't been a person that didn't die...Nope

Hasn't been a person that hasn't died...Rubbish

Isn't a person that won't die...Crap.

I think that you are correct Mal.

The physical body always dies. Anything having to do with anything after that is pure unprovable speculation and I wouldn't include it in any discussion of the physical death of a body.

General Anesthetic shows that there is no afterlife.

Jesus’s resurrection proved there is life after death.

The quote "Whoever believes in me shall never die" is from Jesus' words in the Bible, specifically John 11:26, where he tells Martha that he is the resurrection and the life, offering eternal life through belief in him. This statement is part of his explanation of what it means to believe in him, suggesting that those who believe in him will not truly perish but will live eternally. 

So you believe in myths?

The most concerted effort to separate fact from fiction started in 1985 when a group of mainly secular scholars were drawn together by the lapsed Catholic theologian Bob Funk. Funk’s ‘Jesus Seminar’ met twice a year for 20 years to ‘search for the historical Jesus’. At its launch, Funk said the group would enquire ‘simply, rigorously after the voice of Jesus, after what he really said.’ These scholars (eventually numbering more than 200) used the ‘criteria of authenticity’ to assess the deeds and words of Jesus as reported in the gospels. Many seminars later, following much debate, they concluded that Jesus was an iconoclastic Hellenistic Jewish preacher who told stories in parables and spoke out against injustice; that he had two earthly parents; and that he did not perform miracles, die for people’s sins or rise from the dead. The veracity of his sayings and deeds was decided by a group vote. Scholars were invited to place plastic beads in a box: red (three points) if Jesus said it; pink (two points) if he probably said it; grey (one point) if he didn’t, but it reflected his ideas; black (zero) if invented. When tallied, there were black or grey beads for 82 per cent of Jesus’ Biblical sayings, and 84 per cent of his deeds.

Why the son of God story is built on mythology, not history | Aeon Essays

Well, it’s hard to deny the death or resurrection. The death of Jesus is considered a historical fact. The resurrection has no answer to it.

Stephen Hawking may have been a brilliant t physicist, at the root, but a philosopher, not so much.

"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." - Yoda [Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan, based on a story by George Lucas]. 

Notable Contemporary Philosophers

1. Noam Chomsky:

Noam Chomsky has stated that he knows of no reason to believe in an afterlife

. He has described himself as a child of the Enlightenment and has consciously tried to avoid what he sees as irrational beliefs.

Noam Chomsky is an American professor and public intellectual known for his work in linguistics, political activism, and social criticism. He would hardly be considered a theologian.

Did General Anaesthetic make it to the Trump conference.

Yes, he is much smarter than  a theologian.

But he has nothing to say about death or the after life. Being Jewish he is torn between the kingdom of David and the kingdom of God.

Chomsky was raised Jewish but now considers himself an atheist.

I was raised C of E, but now consider myself to be a simulation.

Is that why you joined the entertainment industry as a stripper?

So you have been to our Big Bang Club!

A virtual stripper.

Was looking at some past journal entries 2013-2018,

I look pretty crazy.

Lot of the entries talked about immortality, or at least life extension as seeming to me the most logical pursuit for a human.

I wondered how far an amoral scientific dictator focusing primarily on that, might get.

But alas, seems I've given up and was unwilling to take risks in life to try to achieve power and possible longer life.

. . .

Guaranteed?

Eh, even if 'technically nothing might be certain, such is not what a lot of people think or speak, I think.

People have expected certainties,

2+2=4, every empire dies eventually.

. . . Rule of thumb maybe, but (Shrug).

Lot of people have never heard or seen someone coming back from the dead, something beyond this life, or existing in a state by which they were immune to various erosions of time.

'Everything seems to die, or at least we expect such, even gold, even the sun.

Well, 'maybe not energy, but people are more than 'just energy some think.

Humans, we might have once thought it was impossible for them to fly,

But fly we have.

But some people dreamed.

. . .

Death, even with immortality, one might figure 'eventually something get's you.

Too much information, heart attack, knife attack, heat death of universe,

Probabilities, 'eventually something.

One can not become 'immortal perhaps, but somewhat persistent.

Fauxlaw may have been brilliant, ....oops, on 2nd thought, not so much.

Its the eternal repeat of the Cosmic Big WOW! phenomena.

All men X y come from woman X x the Great Mama { X x }. Except for those who follow illogic, lack of common sense and lack of critical thinking.......space.....(>^v^v^v<)(>^v^v^v<)......space

Whether or not I have a loss of critical thinking, there is no thinking required in the truth that no woman Xx can produce a man Xy by procreation unless a man, Xy, can contribute the y chromosome to the mix at conception, and even a human woman Xx, whom I credit as the ultimate creation [she arrives only late in the sixth day of the creative process [organizing], more to the point, because ex nihilo is a myth] activity occupying the previous counted days, well after the morning of man's creation on that sixth day, of however many hours those counted creation days were, because the Hebrew י֔וֹם [yo-wm] can be interpretted as a period of several different durations depending on context. And procreation in humans does not occur but by procreation, whether gametes are joined by coitus or by artificial insemination, and the result cannot be accomplished by parthenogenesis, because mammals cannot reproduce by that means whereas a few other species can, but parthenogenesis only produces females Xx, and once a human is conceived as either Xx or Xy, it cannot change its gender by any means, including hormone treatment, by surgery, or by thinking it is so, day-to-day.

As for the big wow!, that may be myth, as well, since that wish balloon can be ruptured by merely a small needle and you really do have a big, destructive, bang. Saying the universe is eternal goes backward in regression of time infinitely, just as progressively forward, infinitely. That's what eternity is; mathematically; a line, not a ray.

We humans, currently, have no ability to fly by our own body's mechanism; we must create flight by invented mechanical means. I'm not saying that ability is not ahead of us, somehow, but it has been impossible and still is impossible, today.

The history of the science of human flight arguably began in 1680, when Italian physicist Giovanni Alfonso Borelli definitively proved that humans could not fly under their own power. This was because human pectoral muscles were simply too weak to support flight, regardless of the wing structures one might employ.

The history of the science of human flight arguably began in 1680, when Italian physicist Giovanni Alfonso Borelli definitively proved that humans could not fly under their own power. This was because human pectoral muscles were simply too weak to support flight, regardless of the wing structures one might employ.

Human-powered aircraft - Wikipedia

Human-powered flight refers to the concept of flying using only human energy, typically through pedaling or other forms 

of physical exertion.

1. It combines extreme athleticism with engineering challenges, requiring lightweight construction and low cruise speeds. 
2. Human powered aircraft have been successfully flown over considerable distances, primarily as engineering challenges rather  than for recreational purposes.
3. Notable achievements include the longest human-powered flight, which lasted nearly 4 hours and covered over 115 km. 
4. The pursuit of human-powered flight has historical significance, with figures like Da Vinci contributing to its cultural narrative. 

Overall, human-powered flight represents a fascinating intersection of sport, engineering, and human capability.

Two US presidents Biden and Trump had difficulty walking up stairs, both stumbled and needed help. Human flight was the last thing on their mind.