Why you should argue for pacifism and cooperation (even if you're wrong)

Pacifism as an ideology isn't opportunistic, it's the belief that war is wrong no matter what. So if you argue that successfully, then it won't matter to pacifists in the US or China or anywhere whether their enemies have become pacifists, they still won't fight.

i see that now.

The thought experiment was that you are a philosopher listened to by a global audience and don't know exactly which countries will be evil in the future.

Okay, I should’ve looked at it that way. I don’t think global pacifism could be achieved. Some groups would listen and would see no justification for war. But other groups are too greedy. They want too much and will be pragmatists instead of pacifists and can justify war as a means to an end

For sure...Evolution is such...And righteousness evolved out of hormones and procreation.

Nonetheless, base info cannot be denied.

If your hair is going to fall out and stop growing it will, despite how good you think you might be..

If your hair is going to fall out and stop growing it will, despite how good you think you might be..

I don't plan on balding. I've been equipped with the right information and how to care for myself. I've only noticed improvement since applying my updated understanding

For sure...Evolution is such...And righteousness evolved out of hormones and procreation.

No, it didn't. Righteousness is a divine concept.

Righteousness is a divine concept.

In your opinion...Which is your prerogative.

In my opinion, concepts evolved as the species evolved intellectually.

Though the endocrine system and procreation are still the basis of species survival and proliferation.

And survival and proliferation has always necessitated that which you might refer to as iniquity.

And survival and proliferation has always necessitated that which you might refer to as iniquity.

Yes, because what is necessary to survive eventually in an imperfect world? You have to suffer, you have to hurt, you have to deceive for self-preservation. I think it's tragic the beauty of the world is stained with these ruthless but practical methods.

With that in mind, it comes as a big shock that Jesus Christ flipped that upside down. Sacrifice and propitiation are what God supplied for us, and we don't have to repay Him for that. That story of the Bible, it's like what is self-sustaining about that? Dying on the cross for supposed miraculous victory. It doesn't agree with your outlook.

I have to figure out how is it important and truthful beyond what you are saying?

There'd have to be an end goal beyond survival in the physical world.

I guess my question from me to you is "why do you believe survival in the physical world is the end goal?" "Why is there nothing beyond that?"

MLK is the American example of a successful pacifist. His legacy lives on.

I don’t think global pacifism could be achieved. Some groups would listen and would see no justification for war.

I don't think a single philosopher is likely to achieve it either; however, they may be able to reduce the willingness to fight in most countries. Maybe they would mainly convince countries that would have fought for good reasons, but it seems just as likely they would mainly convince countries that would have fought for bad reasons they mistakenly thought were good reasons.

Mutually assured destruction MAD is as real as ever with the growing Russian and US conflicts. MLK can only protect black rights in America.

MLK is the American example of a successful pacifist. His legacy lives on.

He was successful in social justice and equality but not pacifism

He took a nonviolent and pacifist approach to social Justice and was successful.