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RemyBrown wrote:
Yeah yeah, you told us the best thing about Trump is that now you get to say the N word, what a joke you are. You included the caveat of not when black people are around LOL, truth is, you've always been able to use the word in your trailer park.
It's funny how you think I use the N word lol.
Oh yeah, you are hilarious guy.
Groypers are the swing voters in 2026.
News flash for you, the 2026 elections are over, pay attention.
The N word will be less frequently used because the black candidates will have a title like senator, governor or congressman.
I've just explained what socialism is about but you keep giving excuses to shake off the debate
You didn’t explain what it was, you ran off a list a vague, meaningless and/or irrelevant things that you were supposedly providing as examples of socialism and I responded to each of them individually explaining why they were meaningless or irrelevant.
you are supposed to live in New York conducting tours for many visitors and you tell me that New York is not relevant for the United States?
I never said NY is not relevant to the United States, learn to read. I said Mandani’s personal views aren’t relevant to the conversation we are having, which is about whether the Democratic Party is a socialist party and how socialism itself, depending on how we’re defining it, is itself bad or evil as you are foolishly trying to argue.
democratic socialism is a system where…
Ok, so you’re talking about democratic socialism, not socialism. It’s about time you made that clear.
So now we can actually see what you’re talking about and how it maps to reality. There are about 8 members of the next Congress that have some sort of affiliation with the DSA, and only half of them align closely with what the DSA put out. That’s 8 out of 260 democrats. Tell me more about how badly this is infecting our national politics.
Socialists hate the wealthy, they can't stand people that make financial progress, they can't deal with the envy that the rich provokes them. So, for terminating the wealthy people they propose a collective system where everybody owns everything, a collective economy.
This is just stupid. What DS’s want is a society where workers are not being exploited for their labor and instead get a fair share of the wealth that their efforts helped to create. We can discuss what that actually looks like in terms of policy and disagree vehemently, nothing about that necessitates hatred for the wealthy or envy of people doing well financially. This is all made up, and probably projected, bullshit.
But let me explain why socialism is a bad idea
You can hold onto your silly little analogy. no one is advocating for a system where everyone is artificially forged into perfect equality no matter what they do, your entire objection is a product of your imagination. This isn’t a serious critique of anything going on in our national conversation and sure as hell not of anything I believe and/or have advocated for.
Many countries in Europe have moved towards social democracy and are doing very well. Eg. Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland.
Others have embraced a social market economies like Germany, France and Netherlands.
There are now socialist parties in UK, Germany and France.
The problem is that when we talk about democratic socialism we’re talking about a basic approach to economics that can inform policy decisions, there is no hard definition on what policy counts as democratic socialist vs what doesn’t, so claiming “democratic socialism doesn’t work” is just ignorant of what the term actually means. Right wingers call any policy proposal that helps working families out as socialism, then turn around and pretend they’re the side fighting for working families. That’s the absurdity to this conversion and until that’s addressed, the rest is pointless.
That’s American double speak for you. Trump has mastered it.
It's arguably more absurd to hold a conversation with a Chinese AI chatbot.
Right wingers call any policy proposal that helps working families out as socialism,
I might be wrong, but it's likely that a partisan gaslighter would call lower taxes, pro-growth policies revolving around lowered confiscatory and punitive regulations, and closed borders limiting labor competition that depress the value of work ... "socialism"
People of USA deserve Communism.
They do. I hope they enjoy the hell out of it. The cushy life is too boring for them.
Democracy is the menopause of Western society, the Grand Climacteric of the body social. Fascism is its middle-aged lust.