Debate Idea: feminists push porn

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Do feminists push pornography or publically support it? There is evidence of porn activism, some by former porn stars, others by people who identify as left leaning or lgbtqi.


But do feminists ACTUALLY support it?


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#2 β€’β€’β€’

onlyfans


nuff said

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#3 β€’β€’β€’

Feminists have been split into two camps on this issue from the start. One says it's objectifying women to view porn, the other says it's empowering for women to throw off old-fashioned norms of modesty and choose to star in porn. I would be interested in seeing how these two positions map onto the "TERF" debate.

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They support it and are the ones in it but then they complain that they are treated like objects in their actual relationships.

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They likely support it so it helps them advance their agenda. If they make people turn them into objects and addictions, then they can complain or sue when they are treated that way. Since the photos and videos are secret, no one can tell the real plans behind them. It’s a strategy.

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@melcharaz

I dont know about all feminists, but arguments I saw were:

P1. Porn is sexual exploitation of women, either directly either indirectly

P2. Sexual exploitation of women is wrong

C. Porn is wrong


Now, P2 is generally accepted premise. P1 is likewise accepted because non-exploiting porn cannot be effectively separated from exploiting. Conclusion logically follows.


So someone who supports porn (unless animated) must defend that sexual exploitation of women isnt always wrong.


So I am not sure what argument can even be made to say that porn is morally okay, other than body autonomy argument because obviously not all porn is sexual exploitation.

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@melcharaz

What does God say about pronography?


God, according to Christian and other faiths, does not approve of pornography because it promotes lust, objectifies people, and is considered sexual immorality, which is a sin.The Bible teaches that engaging in or consuming pornography can lead to addiction, relationship destruction, and separation from God's kingdom. Instead, individuals are encouraged to focus on purity, seek support, and cultivate a heart that honors God's purpose for sexuality within marriage.  




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@Debby

"The Bible teaches that engaging in or consuming pornography can lead to addiction, relationship destruction, and separation from God's kingdom."


Show scripture. Ill help ya out. The word porneos (greek word) is used, but the bible doesnt say anything about pornography.


Since you wanna be off topic anyways.

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@Debby

Godfrey raped a virgin in a stable, so same as Trump, it would be hypocritical to try and condemn the exploitation of women.


Pornography however, is a sound business model and acting genre.

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Feminazis are againsts any kind of "sexual exploitation", either porn or prostitution. No, I think it's even worse, feminazis are against any form of objectification, like displaying hot women in ads. Not even that, I saw feminazis trying to turn the only act of watching a woman into a crime. That's fkn nuts.


Anyway, I believe there are feminists that are moderate but the rule right now is that the feminazis are more politically active and that can be a threat for our coexistence.

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@melcharaz

The Bible does not mention "pornography" by name, but verses condemning lust and "sexual immorality" (Greek: porneia) are interpreted as applying to it. Key verses include Matthew 5:28 (lust is adultery in the heart), 1 Corinthians 6:18 (flee sexual immorality), and Philippians 4:8 (think about pure things). These passages encourage believers to control their minds, avoid lustful thoughts, and keep their bodies holy. 

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Porns is a weird subject because you want women to be able to do what they want with their own bodies. But porn is often exploitive. I also take real issue with the fact that you can be in porn and it's completely legal, but if you do the same thing outside of a studio and not on camera, you're a prostitute. Again, I guess it's a matter of consent. I have no idea if there's some sort of governing body that watches over porn to make sure children and women are being exploited. Can't imagine there is. But most women can do porn now from the comfort of their own home on the internet. So again, I think it's just a matter of consent.

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@Debby
The Bible teaches that engaging in or consuming pornography can lead to addiction, relationship destruction, and separation from God's kingdom. 


Really? I missed that, Chapter and verse please, I would like to go read it again.

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@Sidewalker

Matthew 5:28 is part of Jesus' Sermon on the Mountand states: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart". This verse emphasizes that committing adultery is not just a physical act but also a sin of the mind and heart, expanding the definition of the seventh commandment to include lustful intent.  


1 Corinthians 6:18, which urges readers to "Flee from sexual immorality," emphasizes that sexual sins are unique because they are a sin against one's own body, which is considered a temple of the Holy Spirit. This verse connects to the belief that bodies are not their own but belong to God, having been "bought with a price" through Christ. Therefore, individuals are called to honor God with their bodies by avoiding sexual immorality and living a life of sexual purity. 


Philippians 4:8 encourages focusing the mind on positive qualities like things that are true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent, and praiseworthy.The verse instructs believers to \"think on these things,\" promoting a healthy thought life by cultivating positive and virtuous thoughts that reflect God's character. 






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@melcharaz

It depends on the movie, for instance feminists support Shoresy's "Spank Me Baby, Spank Me Baby, All Night Long"...but they probably don't support FLRW's "Shaving Ryan’s Privates" or Misterio's "Pulp Friction".

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@Polytheistwitch

"To make sure children and women are being exploited".




I'm guessing that you missed an n't.

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@bubbatheclown

TERFs hate porn usually but are oppen to sexual liberation in the sense of 0 marriage consteaints and sex chat sites/apps allowed.


They tend to hate porn and prostotution as an industry and be pro erotics and chats.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

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They tend to hate porn and prostitution as an industry and be pro erotics and chats.


Not sure if this is true or not, but if it is then it's certainly, uh, curious to say the least, constructing a moral code that lets them be all puritanical and judgmental about men's preferred medium of wanking while their own is a-okay.

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@bubbatheclown

There is no need to wank. The Bible verses I provided earlier should convince you to stop your bad behaviour.

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