Do you think trump is as corrupt as he looks?

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Sometimes I wonder if trump is as corrupt as he looks. I think his ego might mean more to him than catering to the rich and donors. Like maybe if some good for the people and practically good for everyone policy ideas got in front of him, maybe he'd use his clout to maybe actually do some good. Like maybe the issue is that hes a doofus on policy and substance and no one around him is letting good ideas get in front of him. Or is he really selling out to the highest bidder and or doing whatever helps himself the most?

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#2 •••

This is a genuinely perceptive way to frame the question, and you’re not alone in sensing that Trump doesn’t fit neatly into the usual “owned by donors” model of corruption.


A careful way to think about it is to separate **three different forces** that operate in Trump simultaneously:


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## 1. Ego and Identity Come First (This Is Real)


Trump’s primary driver really does appear to be **ego, status, dominance, and image**, not money *per se*. He craves:


* Admiration

* Winning

* Being seen as strong

* Personal loyalty

* Historical significance


This actually *does* distinguish him from many traditional politicians who are more transactionally donor-driven.


That means **in principle**, yes:

If a policy:


* Is simple

* Sounds like “winning”

* Makes him look decisive

* Can be branded as *his* idea

he is capable of supporting something that genuinely benefits ordinary people.


This is why you sometimes saw:


* Support for trade protection (rare in GOP circles)

* Openness to infrastructure spending

* Rhetoric against endless wars

* Occasional populist economic instincts


These weren’t fake in the sense of being impossible for him to hold.


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## 2. But He Is Weak on Substance and Policy Discipline


Here’s the big limiting factor you’re intuiting correctly.


Trump:


* Does **not** think in systems

* Does **not** read deeply

* Has little patience for complexity

* Relies heavily on *who is in the room*

* Is highly suggestible by confident, loyal advisors


So what happens in practice is:


* Whoever frames an idea in flattering, simple, winner language gets through

* Whoever annoys him or challenges his instincts gets filtered out

* Policy becomes personality-driven rather than evidence-driven


This makes **gatekeepers incredibly powerful**.


If good ideas *don’t* reach him:


* It’s often because they weren’t translated into Trump-language

* Or because institutional actors (party, donors, ideological groups) block them upstream

* Or because they conflict with elite interests that control staffing and messaging


So yes — there is a real “doofus on policy + bad filters” problem.


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## 3. Self-Interest Still Matters — Just Not Always in the Usual Way


Trump *does* act in self-interest, but it’s more **psychological and reputational** than strictly financial.


He will:


* Protect himself legally

* Reward loyalty regardless of competence

* Attack threats to his self-image

* Make decisions that help him personally even if they hurt institutions


This leads to corruption that looks like:


* Nepotism

* Loyalty tests

* Grifting-adjacent behavior

* Weaponizing government to settle scores


Rather than clean “selling out to the highest bidder,” it’s more:


> **“Does this help me feel powerful, admired, safe, and dominant?”**


Sometimes donors align with that.

Sometimes they don’t — and when they don’t, Trump can actually break with them.


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## So What’s the Bottom Line?


Your intuition is basically right, but incomplete without the darker half.


**Trump is not purely a donor puppet.**

**He is not purely a populist savior either.**


He is:


* Ego-driven

* Policy-light

* Advisor-dependent

* Personally self-protective

* Capable of good outcomes *accidentally* or opportunistically

* Incapable of sustained, principled governance


The tragedy is that **a personality like his *could* have been harnessed for real reforms** if:


* He had discipline

* He had better intellectual filters

* He valued truth over loyalty

* He tolerated being corrected


But those traits are exactly what he lacks.


So the real problem may not be that he’s uniquely evil —

it’s that **his psychology makes him structurally unreliable**, even when his instincts point in a decent direction.


If you want, we could:


* Compare him to other populist leaders (left or right)

* Analyze specific policies where this dynamic played out

* Or explore whether a “Trump-like” figure *could* be a force for good under different constraints


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#3 •••
Do you think trump is as corrupt as he looks?


No, divine light is in everyone, even in someone as disgusting as him.

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#4 •••

Incompetence like I said and like ai said hes psychologically constitutionally incapable at being an effective leader

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#5 •••
@SatanLucy

Well said

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#6 •••

I think he is far worse in corruption than he appears.


However, I want to emphasise that I think worse of most non-Western leaders. This is not an anti-West stance.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

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@linate

Over the course of five decades, Donald Trump has been accused of sexual assault, tax evasion, money laundering, non-payment of employees, and the defrauding of tenants, customers, contractors, investors, bankers, and charities. Also filed 6 bankruptcies. Trump paid 88.5 million to E.Jean Carroll for raping and defaming her. Trump was charged with paying hush money to porn stat Stormy Daniels to keep secret their sexual encounter while Melania was pregnant with Barron. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years .

Trump has been impeached twice, indicted 4 times with 91 felony counts. Ordered to pay 88.3 million dollars for sexually assaulting and defaming E.Jean Carroll. Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money to keep her silent during the elections. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years Trump has been charged with tax fraud in Chicago to the tune of 100 million dollars. A New York jury on Thursday found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records — the first time a former U.S. president has been convicted of a crime.


Trump filed 7 corporate bankruptcies, a failed airline, a failed magazine, a failed scam university, three failed casinos, a failed pandemic response, the worst jobs record of any U.S. president, two impeachments, and 34 criminal convictions, Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years . Covid under Trump was responsible for 1.2 million American deaths.

All this was before his second term as president.


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#8 •••

Remember that one of Trump's professors said that Trump was the dumbest student he ever had.

Well, at least he made an immigrant sex worker our First Lady.

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#9 •••
@FLRW

The First Lady also speaks 5 languages helping Trump communicate better.

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