trump started war with Venezuela

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So all the talk about how trump was just "pretending" and acting unpredictable, was clearly proved false.


talking bad of Venezuela constantly and accusing it of drugs was of course just preparation for invasion. He needed to prepare people for this mentally. Same was true for Iraq, and every other US war. Each invasion comes with previous "bad mouthing" of what is being invaded to justify invasion.


Doing a literal blitzkrieg on a country to arrest its president right after new year celebration is probably one of most insane strategies.


But that is just short term gain, long term loss.


Why is it a long term loss? Well, the invasion achieved nothing important, actually. Maduro will just be replaced by one of his people in command, and the next leader will of course take US ships near his country more seriously.


But US reputation is of course permanently harmed after this, which is a long term loss in all future deals and actually makes countries more likely to turn to China than USA when it comes to trade and military alliance in future.


Another long term loss is "winner overconfidence". Now that trump has learned that he can just arrest leaders of other countries by surprise attacks, it is very unlikely that this is the last time trump will use this strategy.


In fact, trump did use attack on leadership of enemies before, but now he increased it to another level.


Will such strategy work long term? Very unlikely. Leaders will just place greater protection around themselves, because after this, they would be extremely stupid not to.

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#2 •••
@SatanLucy

President Trump said the U.S. will run Venezuela until a "proper transition can take place," as he defended Saturday's military strikes that captured Mudoro.

That is illegal by international law and congress has not approved it either.

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Maduro [along with other Venezuelan officials] were indicted by US DoJ in March of 2020. Biden, taking charge late January 2021, did nothing in 4 years but coddle Maduro [and everyone else who decided to step over the border illegally. Maduro was smart enough to avoid that.] After a good year of warning Maduro to step down from his "re-election" [resumption of criminal occupation of Venezuela] DoJ performed a legitimate arrest of the indicted Maduro with the assist of US military in a virtually flawless operation that cost zero US lives and minor damage to an aircraft able to remain in the air. A legal operation which may be looked upon by the International Criminal Court with suspicion, but the US is not a member of the ICC, and does not recognize its assumed jurisdiction over the US. Congress was notified of the operation when it was prudent to do so, but so Congress could not leak the details to the press, and Maduro. Gee, sorry about that. Perfectly legal - they were notified, thought they will surely raise a stink. They're good at that; stinking, that is.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#4 •••
@Debby
That is illegal by international law


We all know great powers dont follow international law. US doesnt, China doesnt, Russia doesnt, North Korea doesnt, Israel doesnt.


International law only applies to countries which can be punished by international intervention. So international law doesnt apply to many countries.

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#5 •••
@SatanLucy

This reminds us of the Invasion of Iraq by America in order to force a regime change.

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#6 •••
@SatanLucy

True.


International Law is Baloney.


And the US and it's Sister State Israel are two of the biggest International Law ignorers.


Nothing to do with drugs, it's all about the oil.


Especially when you consider that the US is the largest importer and consumer of narcotics, and also the largest consumer of oil.

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#7 •••
@SergeantLynch

And Venezuela has plenty of both.

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#8 •••

Shouldn't have bad-mouthed Israel, buddy-o. To the CIA rape dungeon you go.

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#9 •••
@RexFavilla
To the CIA rape dungeon you go.


Every US prison is technically a rape dungeon.



No Escape: Male Rape in U.S. Prisons


"A Florida prisoner whom we will identify only as P.R. was beaten, suffered a serious eye injury, and assaulted by an inmate armed with a knife, all due to his refusal to submit to anal sex. After six months of repeated threats and attacks by other inmates, at the end of his emotional endurance, he tried to commit suicide by slashing his wrists with a razor. In a letter to Human Rights Watch, he chronicled his unsuccessful efforts to induce prison authorities to protect him from abuse. Summing up these experiences, he wrote: "The opposite of compassion is not hatred, it's indifference."

P.R.'s bleak outlook is not unjustified. Judging by the popular media, rape is accepted as a commonplace of imprisonment, so much so that when the topic of prison arises, a joking reference to rape seems almost obligatory. Few members of the public would be surprised by the assertion that men are frequently raped in prison, given rape's established place in the mythology of prison life. Yet serious, sustained, and constructive attention to the subject remains rare. As Stephen Donaldson, the late president of the organization Stop Prisoner Rape, once said: "the rape of males is a taboo subject for public discussion . . . . If ever there was a crime hidden by a curtain of silence, it is male rape."

Without question, the hard facts about inmate-on-inmate sexual abuse are little known. No conclusive national data exist regarding the prevalence of prisoner-on-prisoner rape and other sexual abuse in the United States. Indeed, few commentators have even ventured to speculate on the national incidence of rape in prison, although some, extrapolating from small-scale studies, have come up with rough estimates as to its prevalence. With the staggering growth of the prison population over the past two decades, such ignorance is more unjustifiable than ever.

Prison authorities, unsurprisingly, generally claim that prisoner-on-prisoner sexual abuse is an exceptional occurrence rather than a systemic problem. Prison officials in New Mexico, for example, responding to our 1997 request for information regarding "the 'problem' of male inmate-on-inmate rape and sexual abuse" (the internal quotation marks are theirs), said that they had "no recorded incidents over the past few years." The Nebraska Department of Correctional Services informed Human Rights Watch that such incidents were "minimal." Only Texas, Ohio, Florida, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons said that they had more than fifty reported incidents in a given year, numbers which, because of the large size of their prison systems, still translate into extremely low rates of victimization.

Yet prison authorities' claims are belied by independent research on the topic. Indeed, the most recent academic studies of the issue have found shockingly high rates of sexual abuse, including forced oral and anal intercourse. In December 2000, the Prison Journal published a study based on a survey of inmates in seven men's prison facilities in four states. The results showed that 21 percent of the inmates had experienced at least one episode of pressured or forced sexual contact since being incarcerated, and at least 7 percent had been raped in their facility. A 1996 study of the Nebraska prison system produced similar findings, with 22 percent of male inmates reporting that they had been pressured or forced to have sexual contact against their will while incarcerated. Of these, over 50 percent had submitted to forced anal sex at least once. Extrapolating these findings to the national level gives a total of at least 140,000 inmates who have been raped.

An internal departmental survey of corrections officers in a southern state (provided to Human Rights Watch on the condition that the state not be identified) found that line officers -- those charged with the direct supervision of inmates -- estimated that roughly one-fifth of all prisoners were being coerced into participation in inmate-on-inmate sex. Interestingly, higher-ranking officials -- those at the supervisory level -- tended to give lower estimates of the frequency of abuse, while inmates themselves gave much higher estimates: the two groups cited victimization rates of roughly one-eighth and one-third, respectively. Although the author of the survey was careful to note that it was not conducted in accordance with scientific standards, and thus its findings may not be perfectly reliable, the basic conclusions are still striking. Even taking only the lowest of the three estimates of coerced sexual activity -- and even framing that one conservatively -- more than one in ten inmates in the prisons surveyed was subject to sexual abuse.

It is evident that certain prisoners are targeted for sexual assault the moment they enter a penal facility: their age, looks, sexual orientation, and other characteristics mark them as candidates for abuse. Human Rights Watch's research has revealed a broad range of factors that correlate with increased vulnerability to rape. These include youth, small size, and physical weakness; being white, gay, or a first offender; possessing "feminine" characteristics such as long hair or a high voice; being unassertive, unaggressive, shy, intellectual, not street-smart, or "passive"; or having been convicted of a sexual offense against a minor. Prisoners with any one of these characteristics typically face an increased risk of sexual abuse, while prisoners with several overlapping characteristics are much more likely than other inmates to be targeted for abuse. Yet it would be a mistake to think that only a minority of extremely vulnerable individuals face sexual abuse. In the wrong circumstances, it should be emphasized, almost any prisoner may become a victim."


https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report1.html



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#10 •••
@RexFavilla

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#11 •••
@SatanLucy

I mean I'd joke about any man being raped if the punchline was good. Don't really get the meme.

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I still don’t know what to type!

#13 •••

Pretty sure the war is over when you capture the king. It's just like chess.

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#14 •••
@RexFavilla
I mean I'd joke about any man being raped


Would you joke about average woman being raped?

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#15 •••
@Debby

In the past few years Venezuelan ships have been carrying a large number of illegal drugs to the U.S.. They have been sold in many parts of the U.S..

These unacceptable situation fueled Trump`s anger toward Venezuela and last year he ordered to strike Venezuelan ships in a number of times. And at last his animosity toward the country has reached the critical point on January 3,2026.

Trump ordered striking the capital of Venezuela without previous notice and detained the president of Venezuela.

Many civilians have been injured and many parts of the capital have been destroyed. The action taken by Trump is not justified.

He should have hold a diplomatic meeting with Venezuela and persuaded the country not to exporting drugs to the U.S. earnestly.

His authoritarian behavior might fuel strong anger toward the U.S. among the allied countries of Venezuela like China, Russia and Iran.

It seems to me that Trump intends strongly to transform the incumbent government of Venezuela into the U.S.- friendly new government.




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#16 •••
@dreamer

Americans consume oil like it’s a drug. Now they have plenty of Venezuela oil to get high on.

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#17 •••
@dreamer
The action taken by Trump is not justified.
He should have hold a diplomatic meeting with Venezuela and persuaded the country not to exporting drugs to the U.S. earnestly.
His authoritarian behavior might fuel strong anger toward the U.S. among the allied countries of Venezuela like China, Russia and Iran.
It seems to me that Trump intends strongly to transform the incumbent government of Venezuela into the U.S.- friendly new government.


So, Trump is the bad type of Authoritarian, and Chavez, China, Russia, and Iran are the "good types."


Winston Smith needs more indoctrination.

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#18 •••

Trump thinks he is justified stealing oil from Venezuela to pay for drugs entering America from Venezuela.

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#19 •••

So, Trump is the bad type of Authoritarian, and Chavez, China, Russia, and Iran are the "good types."

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#20 •••
@SatanLucy
Would you joke about average woman being raped?


Those jokes are rarely good - men are disposable, whereas women are responsible for the furtherance of any society. So male rape has always been taken less seriously than female rape, because it has no ramifications as far as children or motherhood are concerned. Whether it's 'nice' or not, men who fall that far are seen as 'responsible' for allowing themselves to be victimized.


And when it comes to prison rape, most people think that sentences are a joke and that prison murder/abuse/rape are a way to 'balance the scales' and give certain people their 'just deserts'. Pedophiles in particular are sought out to be brutalized and that's where the largest discrepancy between what a person deserves and what the 'justice system' actually metes out lies - most people think they should be executed, so when an inmate tortures one to death it's almost seen as a heroic act.

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#21 •••
@RexFavilla
Those jokes are rarely good - men are disposable, whereas women are


Actually, in order for reproduction to happen, there must be both man and woman. Woman alone cannot reproduce.



Pedophiles in particular are sought out to be brutalized


the correct term is map. "Pedophile" is considered offensive to say to a person.

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Actually, in order for reproduction to happen, there must be both man and woman. Woman alone cannot reproduce.

You just need one man for each woman of childbearing age. They're produced at a much higher rate than that.


the correct term is map. "Pedophile" is considered offensive to say to a person.

It might be a bit much to call those at liberty to be offended by it 'people'


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@RexFavilla
You just need one man for each woman of childbearing age


Yes, which requires a ratio of 1:1 unless you assume each of one man will make multiple women pregnant, which doesn't really happen a lot.


It might be a bit much to call those at liberty to be offended by it 'people'


Map is short for minor attracted person. Please use this term when talking about minor attracted people, to avoid offending those people's feelings.

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@RexFavilla
Those jokes are rarely good - men are disposable, whereas women are responsible for the furtherance of any society. So male rape has always been taken less seriously than female rape

Even if I buy the first part, we're talking about rape and not murder, so what does it have to do with whether or not the victims are "disposable"? I don't think the problem people have with rape is that it stops people from furthering society, it's that it's done without consent and can be traumatic.


Also I disagree with the first part. Men don't have wombs, but they are much less disposable as far as labor is concerned. And furthering society only matters is we care about what happens to people in society, so no one is really disposable.

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#25 •••

Oil, money and US power.


Nothing else to this.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

#26 •••
@RexFavilla
You just need one man for each woman of childbearing age. They're produced at a much higher rate than that.

This works only in non Christian societies.


For Christian societies it will be Hellboundedness for any engaging in this... I dont know why but God ruled it so. 1 man for 1 woman or we go to Hell. No option 3. Clearly stated by none other than Lord Yeshua himself.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

#27 •••
@RexFavilla

If you would joke about male victims of rape, you are not a Christian.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

#28 •••
This works only in non Christian societies


It doesn't work in any society. If you give each man two women, you end up with 50% of men being single.


So in 1:1 ratio, man is as important as woman, and in 1:2 ratio, half of men are single, and are more likely to commit insane acts because single lonely people are at higher risk of mental illnesses.

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#29 •••
If you would joke about male victims of rape, you are not a Christian


It seems to me that people generally make rape jokes regarding men, but rarely or never about women. There is some sick imagination in average person's brain where they start laughing at someone being raped just because it's socially acceptable.

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The idea is most of.those other 50% died in the war.


Are you realising your mathematical error now?

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.