Epstein files have confirmed firmly that Trump participated in the rapes and sex trafficking and was friend of Epstein

I'd rather hear your theory on that. You probably know a lot more about Biden than I do.

Why do you give Trump a pass for pedophilia?

I was asking why Biden did.

What about Hunter's laptop.

LOL

The only reason Trump ended his friendship with Epstein was over a real estate deal that both were interested in. Trump visited epstein’s island several times and was even introduced to Melania by Epstein.

So Biden held on to the Epstein files... for four years....to protect his son?

Plausible. I guess...like I said, you probably know more about Biden and his family than I do.

Biden was handed a failing economy by Trump and also had to deal with the Covid epidemic. Epstein was not a priority under Biden. Neither Biden or Hunter are in the Epstein files.

Trump can sue me then. I believe he is a rapist.

So Biden held on to the Epstein files... for four years....to protect his son?

Plausible. I guess...like I said, you probably know more about Biden and his family than I do.

and what about Hillary's emails?

LOL

Trump is directing his own plane.He does not trust the traffic controllers.

What about them? Is that why Biden protected a known pedophile for 4 years?

What about them? Is that why Biden protected a known pedophile for 4 years?

So you don't know either why Biden protected a known pedophile for 4 years. Join the club.

Sometimes I feel a bit doubtful 'anything will come of the Epstein Files,

There seem to be so 'many files,

They do not seem to be some tidy well indexed blackmail list that Epstein owned.

Epstein Files just seems to be 'every single thing law enforcement investigated, heard, confiscated. That is vast, untidy, not verified.

. . . The Law also tries to protect people 'not guilty. The victims, and the people who did 'not do anything illegal when they interacted with Epstein.

It's a bloody twisted mess, well. . . 'Seems to be from what I hear of it.

We live in an age of misinformation,

Has the evidence been tampered, removed, contaminated?

It contains 'all instances of claims I assume, not all claims are true.

Hm, statute of limitations,

Epstein interacted with so many people, him being a funding guy, and a pipeline when others wanted to fund stuff. It wasn't all sex stuff.

"also described several infants being killed and their intestines removed as well as other acts of cannibalism"

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01246048.pdf

I've not really been paying much attention,

While not 'impossible, I find some of the more grotesque claims difficult to believe.

. . . Course humans 'are grotesque at times, torture and eat other humans.

. . . . . . And of course that single claim does not mean other claims are false, but the existence of claims does not make them true.

But that the Holocaust truly existed, does not mean the delusions of the Satanic Panic in the 80s and 90s was not overblown and absurd.

. . .

Course one would think that 'surely there must be 'some verifiable documentation in the Epstein Files.

. . .

I recall a manga I read once, Akumetsu,

Guy in Japan basically goes on a rampage killing a bunch of businessmen and politicians for corruption.

. . What I muse on is the character in that manga had the means of finding 'proof of people's wrongdoings,

'Proof, is something I often muse that people lack,

Something that I muse often makes vigilante justice improbable.

The people most gifted the 'truth, able to act on conscience, are those 'involved.

. . . But of course humans. . . Hm, deja vu.

(Shrug) One cannot expect victims to murder those who took advantage of them, nor can one 'allow such, as one outside often does not 'know what they know.

. . One cannot expect bystanders to act on conscience, humans are much less than we sometimes 'wish we could be.

Quite frankly, the "Epstein Files" are just a load of media inspired, for profit baloney.

Chuck them in the bin and move on.

Because nothing that has occurred between then and now can be changed.

And if young floozies were prepared to sell themselves to rich men, then that was their lookout.

And will young floozies have learned a lesson...Nah.

And will human society become a better place if the baying crowds can publicly disembowel the now dirty old bastards...Nah.

So you don't know either why Biden protected a known pedophile for 4 years. Join the club.

I'm not sure 'what to think the files are.

Internet talk is the girls were coerced and trafficked, rather than willing. (I've not been following the case closely)

Though there were so many, of different ages and willingness I'd suppose, maybe it becomes murky.

It 'is questionable how knowledgeable X of the clients were of the girls willingness, maybe they did not realize it was so coerced.

Though personally, I still don't like the idea of prostitution, it is more normal/legal in some parts of the world.

Would society become better if the clients were prosecuted?

Maybe.

. . .

Some people in the country, a 'lot of people I 'think, are pretty upset about the whole thing.

Well if he does sue you , remember its not what you believe its what you can prove.

Me neither, I haven't found a single American willing to stop and explain why we never even heard anything for 4 years when Biden had the files.

It's almost like Biden WANTED Kamala to lose the election, why would he do that?

Its proven

Now that the Epstein files are out or partially out. Let us see what Trump is going to do about it.

I've heard a couple takes,

"prior to Trump, the norm for every other president was to have the DOJ operate as an independent agency. Biden at least never wanted the appearance that the DOJ agenda was being dictated from the White House. The way that Trump is directing the DOJ to pursue blatantly false charges against his political enemies"

-sp0rkah0lic ,

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/1qstrbw/why_werent_the_epstein_files_released_under/

"You're leaving out the most important part, that those files were sealed due to Ghislane Maxwell's trial. Could he have ordered them unsealed anyway? Maybe, but like you said, Biden generally follows the law unlike the current president."

-TheRockingDead

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/1qstrbw/why_werent_the_epstein_files_released_under/

. . .

But who knows. . . I've not heard of Biden being in the files, though I've not been paying attention.

. . . Presidents are not the 'only people involved in the process though.

(Shrug) maybe involved or uninvolved members of government think that it would be damaging to the USA, USA foreign relations, or USA economics, to release all the documents.

Maybe X many members of smaller time but involved members of government are being paid off, unknown to the presidents.

But that is wild guessing.

. . Sigh, as often is the case, for of war is frustrating.

. . . Maybe much of the documents just 'aren't the smoking gun people were looking for.

The documents are 'damaging yeah, but a lot of that is damaging without being able to 'prove anything in court maybe.

A 'lot of people 'happened to interact with Epstein in X ways, even Stephen Hawking gets mentioned in the files for attending some science meeting that a 'bunch of science people attended,

Because Epstein was a socialite and funder, trying to rub elbows in 'some way, not all perverse, with everyone he could.

. . .

Course lot of the Epstein Files 'haven't been released.

Pity a lot of people don't trust government currently and/or that government currently is often untrustworthy.

America is permanently damaged by the Epstein scandal . There were some 1,200 victims spread over a decade. The guilty should be brought to trial.

It's almost like Biden WANTED Kamala to lose the election, why would he do that?

Most of the info that came out after the election does hint at this. He appears to be incredibly salty about being unceremoniously sidelined and then being blamed for Kamala, probably the worst presidential candidate of my lifetime, predictably falling flat on her face and losing to Trump. There was no love lost between the two.

Also, it could be argued that Kamala and Biden both lost support because of the fence-straddling when it comes to Israel. Because, let's get real, that's the real reason the files were being covered up and are now heavily redacted by both administrations. Epstein was constantly hanging out with Ehud Barak, Ghislaine's father was a prominent Mossad operative who was given a state funeral in Israel. Biden tried to still support Israel while lightly slapping their wrist over the naked genocide being carried out in Gaza. This intensely pissed of his base for obvious reasons, while also pissing off the Israeli-aligned money. As Charlie Kirk can (well, could) tell you, they have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to criticism and pushback. Money wins elections, and hundreds of millions poured into Trump's pockets from donors like Adelson.

Epstein was not interested in politics.He was interested in money and young girls. Biden was a poor source for both unlike Trump. So get your facts right.

That makes sense then. Biden wanted Kamala to lose, so he protected Trump.

Biden wanted Kamala to lose

In his last year in office, Biden wasnt even sentient.

I'm sure Biden had more than one or 2 Trump haters in his cabinet that could have snuck a few documents for him to sign to get the dirt out on Trump. That alone makes it seem this was intentional. Regardless, you can't deny that Trump would not have gotten elected if even a small sliver of the files were leaked.

I am certain democrats lost on purpose. I dont know why, but they did everything they could to lose. From idiotically pretending Biden was "okay", to having woman as candidate who said she will keep doing as Biden did, to accusing trump of crimes he didnt even commit instead of the ones he actually did commit.

And while Kamala did obliterate trump in a debate, at the same time she went around saying how Biden's government is great.

the only correct path there was to distance themselves from Biden and from failed governing, but they went completely opposite.

So yeah, I would say intentional loss. Maybe payed to lose?

Kamala won less than 2% of the votes when she competed against Biden and had to drop out of the 2020 race. Biden picked her as his VP. She did much better against Trump but lost to him in 2024.

Kamala won less than 2% of the votes when she competed against Biden and had to drop out of the 2020 race

that should have been enough for anyone not wanting to lose elections. Kamala was never popular.

"Its proven"

Will that be your defense in court. Good luck with that.

I will see God bury and burn the lot!

There will be no saving them lest they repent profusely and declare Yeshua as Lord.

Go make empty threats elsewhere, rapist defender.