Women dont actually feel love towards men

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Many people, especially many men, live in this delusion that women feel love. And unconditional love is even greater delusion.


Let us first describe what happens in nature, so we clearly understand what happens.


In nature, female doesnt feel love towards a male partner. In fact, in many species, male and female dont even spend time together much outside breeding.


And what can be observed by all experiments is that female doesnt have love or standards.


What would be love? Love would be if female was with one partner under all circumstances.


However, that does not happen.


Circumstances in the first place dictate which partner female will choose.


For example, a female lion doesnt unconditionally love a lion.

Her choice of a lion depends on what is available and what is preferable among available options.


For example, even the least preferable lion, as experiments showed, becomes preferable when he is the only option.


So woman's choice is not based on love, but comparison of available options for reproduction. this is why women choose some of worst of men when they become only option, because evolutionary trait which forces attention seeking and reproduction behavior means even the worst of men become desirable when they are the only option, because the only alternative is not reproducing at all and being lonely, which is worse from an evolutionary standpoint.


Woman's choice is made entirely based on seeking reproduction and comparing available options.


this is why women will often pretend to be unavailable or pretend to be not interested. this delay is because they are comparing available options.



Lion mating choice in the wild

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Yes. In nature, female lions often choose mates from the males that are available at the time, and a male that was not previously preferred can become acceptable if he becomes the only or dominant option. But the process is influenced by several biological and social factors.

1. Lions live in prides controlled by a few males

A pride usually contains:

  1. Several lionesses
  2. 1–3 dominant males (sometimes a coalition of brothers)

These males gain control by fighting and defeating previous males. Once they control the pride, they become the primary mating partners for the females.

So the female's “choice set” is restricted to the males that currently control the pride.

2. Female lions still show preferences

When multiple males are present, lionesses often prefer males that show:

  1. Strength and dominance
  2. Large/dark mane (signals health and testosterone)
  3. Successful fighters
  4. Good territory control

These traits increase the chance that cubs will survive.

3. If only one male is available

If only one male controls the pride:

  1. Females will mate with him even if he wasn't previously preferred.
  2. Refusing indefinitely would mean not reproducing, which is worse from an evolutionary perspective.

So availability strongly shapes choice.

4. Timing also matters

Lionesses come into estrus (fertile period) only for a short time. During that period:

  1. They may mate dozens of times per day.
  2. If only one male is present, he becomes the automatic mating partner.

5. Male takeover changes everything

When a new male coalition takes over a pride:

  1. They often kill existing cubs (infanticide).
  2. This forces females back into fertility sooner.
  3. The females then mate with the new males, even though they were not previously part of the pride.

This shows how dominance and availability override earlier preference.

Summary

Female lions do have preferences, but in the wild:

  1. Their choices are limited to the males currently controlling the pride.
  2. A male that was not attractive before can become the mating partner if he becomes the only or dominant available male.


So attraction in lions is partly preference, but strongly shaped by availability and power.

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#2 •••
@SatanLucy

How can you prove humans are like lions?

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#3 •••
@Debby

Humans have same built in evolutionary trait which is focused on reproduction.


In order to reproduce, a female must choose between available options. there is no love. Mere compare and choose.

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#4 •••
@SatanLucy

So size does matter.

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#5 •••

The guy who doesn't know a single woman besides his mother, is now the expert on women LOL.


Please tell us more about your world of imaginary women.

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#6 •••
@Sidewalker

I am an expert in everything, yes. My mind is a machine which produces studies and probability statistics out of large set of data.

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#7 •••

Honestly SatanLucy is becoming my favorite shit poster. It's a solid laugh every time. 10/10

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#8 •••
@Alyssa

Yes, as I said, just emotional reactions from women. No logic.

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#9 •••

Sidewalker is maybe a man, but he seems to be having a female brain. It sometimes happens that man or woman is born with brain of opposite sex.

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#10 •••
@SatanLucy
Sidewalker is maybe a man, but he seems to be having a female brain. It sometimes happens that man or woman is born with brain of opposite sex.


Maybe I'm just in touch with my feminine side.


Nah, I don't think I even have a feminine side, but if I did, I'd touch it all the time.

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#11 •••
@Sidewalker
I don't think I even have a feminine side



there are only two things which guide reasoning:


One is logic. this is what men have a lot.


Other is emotions. this is what women have.



But due to chemicals in food which increase estrogen levels, some portion of men have developed "female like brains".


Instead of being goal-logic oriented, they become emotions oriented.

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#12 •••
@SatanLucy

In December my wife had me watch a couple hundred Hallmark Christmas movies, that can definitely feminize a man's brain.


But I can still parallel park, so maybe I can still recover.


I should go to the park and see if there's a pickup football game I could join, but I have nothing to wear, so that's out.







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#13 •••
@Sidewalker

the main difference between feminized brain and man's brain is in goal oriented logic.


For example, a man has a goal and then logically sticks to it and thinks in way to achieve a goal.


A woman, due to emotions, doesnt stick to her own goals or any of their order of importance.


For example, a woman might say her child is most important to her in whole world, and then in burst of emotions hit that same child and hurt it and abuse it, or neglect it.


We know today that AI in past was built entirely on man's way of thinking.


In fact, scientists built AI based on:

goal plus current knowledge plus inference rules (logical operators)


as main system for producing new knowledge.


today's AI is more complex, but it follows same method of goal (prompt) and inference rules for producing new knowledge.


What emotions do is just mess up whole reasoning system, make brain forget its goals or their order of importance, and act on impulse which upon later examination seems entirely dumb.


Emotions are truly something women have a lot more, but its getting more present in men too. A lot of new generations seem to be more feminized than previous generations.

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#14 •••
@SatanLucy
the main difference between feminized brain and man's brain is in goal oriented logic.

For example, a man has a goal and then logically sticks to it and thinks in way to achieve a goal.

A woman, due to emotions, doesnt stick to her own goals or any of their order of importance.

For example, a woman might say her child is most important to her in whole world, and then in burst of emotions hit that same child and hurt it and abuse it, or neglect it.

We know today that AI in past was built entirely on man's way of thinking.

In fact, scientists built AI based on:
goal plus current knowledge plus inference rules (logical operators)

as main system for producing new knowledge.

today's AI is more complex, but it follows same method of goal (prompt) and inference rules for producing new knowledge.

What emotions do is just mess up whole reasoning system, make brain forget its goals or their order of importance, and act on impulse which upon later examination seems entirely dumb.

Emotions are truly something women have a lot more, but its getting more present in men too. A lot of new generations seem to be more feminized than previous generations.



You are condescending when you go around mansplaining things in such a patronizing manner.


You assume I don't understand just because I watched Hallmark movies, you are a chauvinistic pig.



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#15 •••
@Sidewalker
You are condescending when you go around mansplaining things


Buddy, you even made jokes in the past about me being raped. But sure, I am mansplaining and offending your precious feelings.

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#16 •••
@SatanLucy
You are condescending when you go around mansplaining things

Buddy, you even made jokes in the past about me being raped.


That wasn't joking, you were arguing for pedophilia, and I was letting you know about the consequences of acting on your impulses...most men in prison have kids, a pedophile rapist isn't going to like prison...and that is no joke.


But sure, I am mansplaining and offending your precious feelings.


LOL, you really don't have a clue, I guess your "all knowing" AI doesn't know what sarcasm is.



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#17 •••
@Sidewalker
That wasn't joking


Yeah, it was more like some secret desire on your part. Just as you hoped Trump goes to prison and gets raped. It is some seriously ill mindset which glorifies rape.


LOL, you really don't have a clue, I guess your "all knowing" AI doesn't know what sarcasm is.


Every joke contains a bit of hidden opinion.

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#18 •••
@SatanLucy
That wasn't joking

Yeah, it was more like some secret desire on your part. Just as you hoped Trump goes to prison and gets raped. It is some seriously ill mindset which glorifies rape.


Yeah, that's just how I respond to a guy who glorifies pedophilia...you just don't get it that sex with children is rape.


LOL, you really don't have a clue, I guess your "all knowing" AI doesn't know what sarcasm is.

Every joke contains a bit of hidden opinion.


I'm sorry, I didn't mean for my opinion to be hidden, I just keep forgetting you are clueless.

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#19 •••
@Sidewalker

And as I said before, I don't care for your "precious feelings" or what offends them. Realistically, when you start mocking me, and then later ask of me to consider your precious feelings, I have to say I am interested in pure logic, and if pure logic happens to offend a precious feeling, well, who cares.

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#20 •••
@SatanLucy

Isn't that precious LOL.

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#21 •••
@SatanLucy

Love is a general and greatly overused term, that is used to describe a whole raft of electrochemical brain activity....Similarly we often refer to certain electrochemical brain activity as emotion.


To say that one loves, is both an over-simplification and often an over-complication.

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#22 •••
@SergeantLynch
Love is a general and greatly overused term, that is used to describe a whole raft of electrochemical brain activity....Similarly we often refer to certain electrochemical brain activity as emotion.


That doesn’t mean that love is less real than anything else.


Reality is experiential, love, emotion, senses, time, space, matter, and energy, it’s all a matter of electrochemical brain activity. The inner world is all we know directly, everything else is inferred, the so called “real world” is the presumed cause of our sensations but for all we really know, we are just a brain in a vat. 


Take color, you can say Green is merely a particular wavelength of light within the visible spectrum of the electromagnetic field, you can even say that therefore, "Green has no objective existence"…but that doesn’t make Green any less “real”.


To say that one loves, is both an over-simplification and often an over-complication.


"We are most alive when we are in love." – John Updike

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#23 •••
@Sidewalker
Isn't that precious LOL.


Yes, when I said you have a female brain, you said "You are condescending", as if someone on this site has a special duty to care for your feelings. this is why I say you have a female brain, because you mock everyone and expect that your feelings will be safe. In fact, your first post in this topic is you mocking me. Because you dont have logic, you have feelings. You are a woman trapped in man's body.

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#24 •••
@SergeantLynch
To say that one loves, is both an over-simplification and often an over-complication


Love actually doesnt exist, its all just chemicals in the brain producing feelings, which was created by evolution to optimize reproduction.


Women dont love anyone, even when they choose him, because they only choose him because better option isnt available.

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#25 •••
@SatanLucy
Isn't that precious LOL.

Yes, when I said you have a female brain, you said "You are condescending", as if someone on this site has a special duty to care for your feelings. this is why I say you have a female brain, because you mock everyone and expect that your feelings will be safe. In fact, your first post in this topic is you mocking me. Because you dont have logic, you have feelings. You are a woman trapped in man's body.


Does my post make me look fat?

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#26 •••
@Sidewalker
Does my post make me look fat?


Most women in USA are fat. this is why your men are turning gay.

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#27 •••
@SatanLucy
Most women in USA are fat. this is why your men are turning gay.


Is that how it works?


Thank you for explaining homosexuality Dr. Love.


What makes a man become a pedophile?

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#28 •••
@Sidewalker
What makes a man become a pedophile?



A man becomes a pedophile because that is woman's preference. Women always seek older partners. this means a man at age 18 fails to find a girlfriend of his age, because all the girls his age prefer men over 19. this essentially forces an 18 year old to either be alone or date someone under 18.


the math behind this is that if only 40% of 18 year old girls choose men over 19, it means 40% of 18 year old guys face a choice of being lonely or date women under 18.

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#29 •••
@Sidewalker

Well yes Mr Updike.


The endocrine system is such that when it surges, we think surge...And label it variously...Love is a popular label...Though it all boils down to procreation.


When things eventually settle down...It's time to roll over and go to sleep...Or surge elsewhere...Or apply other methods of emotional release...Like extreme sports or recreational drugs...Or even prescription drugs.


And for sure, it's all real enough...Though typically, humans have evolved to overthink the issue somewhat...So we end up with mortgages and a constant desire for new kitchens, new cars on finance, airfryers and all manner of other electrical gadgetry...Such is love.


And when we can afford it, we might even procreate.

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#30 •••
@SatanLucy

Yes, exactly my take on the issue.

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