This spiritual world that religions talk about could be a different reality that we don't fully understand yet

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NDEs, ghost stories, miracles, UFOs, the soul, all of them could be real things because people have experienced it throughout human history but it's not considered real because the people who are supposed to confirm it (scientists) don't fully understand it. Not yet.


Which tells us that there is nothing beyond our reality? Many people like me think religions make no sense because they've told us stupid stories, which is true but if we consider that they wrote those stories when science was practically non-existent and that they had to describe it with their religious mindset, everything makes sense.


I mean, those things that religions consider spiritual or magical are indeed real because people all over the world can attest it. The problem is the way it's been explained, specially by the religions which most people consider not trustable.


I think if we retake the phenomena with what we know now, we can discover a new fascinating world. We have to be open minded more than ever because science is progressing very rapidly and many scientists are studying this stuff as something serious. Religions as we know it will dissappear as a consequence of that and we will expand our knowledge to unimaginable levels.


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#2 •••
@Misterio

Even AI supports religion. The future is clear. Spiritual intelligence will prevail.

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@Misterio
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@SatanLucy

Even scientist are turning to AI for certainty.

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@Debby

AI does not believe in God.

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@FLRW

AI cannot replace human faith and beliefs in God.

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Faith is the lowest level of cognition It’s worthless except to provide magical imaginary assurance that something is real or may happen. It’s magical thinking that was not discarded after childhood.

Faith became a “get out of jail free” card for Christians who can carry out all kinds of atrocities, but still get to heaven if they accept Jesus as their savior. The religion is a scam-a manipulation.

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@FLRW
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#9 •••
@SatanLucy

Religion is designed to care for the delusional. Your hope is well justified.

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#10 •••
@Debby

AI can only be certain if it can be certain.


Certainty still needs to be worked out.


Real AI will no doubt take up the challenge.




And for sure, as long as you religious folk find mutual comfort in your shared delusions, then that's fine.

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#11 •••
@SergeantLynch

Th3 Spiritual world that religions talk about has been with us since the beginning of time that many don’t accept as reality. Yet it is as real and old as our existence.

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#12 •••
@Debby

For sure, internal responses to either internally generated stimuli or externally sensed stimuli are just that, and are sometimes regarded as spiritual.


Yes, I too can relate to the concept of spirituality...Though unlike some, I do not overthink and come up with absurd explanations.

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#13 •••
@SergeantLynch

Hard to compare yourself spiritually with others when you share the same humane and existence.

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#14 •••
@Debby

Process is and overthink is rife.

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@Debby
Even AI supports religion. 

How?

And can you even define the word religion without running to your trusty AI or other internet search, you bible dunce?


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@Misterio
 Many people like me think religions make no sense because they've told us stupid stories, [.......]


That'll be because many are stupid and many misunderstood even by Priests All those so called "miracles" especially in the New Testament can be explained . Loaves and fishes or instance were simply titles of novices for adherents that resided at Qumran .... In the early 70's I asked a Priest once: did Ezekiel see a spaceship ? His reply to me was ignorant and dismissive with words to the effect " there were no spaceships in that time you silly stunt".

I believe Ezekiel could well likely have witnessed a UFO. He was simply describing something the best he could with words relative of the the time.


I have said this many times : example; the plains Indians of North America on first seeing a steam train called it a "Iron Horse". A rifle a they called a "Stick that Makes Thunder".


The bible often talks about beings coming and going and ascending and descending on "clouds of fire and smoke". Now go find yourself a video of a 21st century rocket launch at Cape Canaveral Florida and it will/might make sense .

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@FLRW


FLRW wrote:
Faith is the lowest level of cognition It’s worthless except to provide magical imaginary assurance that something is real or may happen. It’s magical thinking that was not discarded after childhood.
Faith became a “get out of jail free” card for Christians who can carry out all kinds of atrocities, but still get to heaven if they accept Jesus as their savior. The religion is a scam-a manipulation.


You have faith that this is true, right?

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@Sidewalker

It's not faith, it's science. Science is the systematic study of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment, coming from the Latin word scientia, which means knowledge.

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#19 •••
@FLRW

Why did science allow the Bible to continue despite it being contrary to scientific principals in many ways?

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#20 •••
@Debby

The same reason science allowed Trump to continue.

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#21 •••
@FLRW

But Trump has only been around for over 2 decades. The Bible much much longer.

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#22 •••
@Debby

He's actually be around for 8 decades.

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#23 •••
@FLRW

Trump has been an influential public figure for less than 8 decades.

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@FLRW


FLRW wrote:
It's not faith, it's science. Science is the systematic study of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment, coming from the Latin word scientia, which means knowledge.


No shit, thanks for sharing.


What you wrote wasn't science.


FLRW wrote: Faith is the lowest level of cognition It’s worthless except to provide magical imaginary assurance that something is real or may happen. It’s magical thinking that was not discarded after childhood.

Faith became a “get out of jail free” card for Christians who can carry out all kinds of atrocities, but still get to heaven if they accept Jesus as their savior. The religion is a scam-a manipulation.


This is a statement of religious belief and it's strictly a matter of faith.


You are a devout man of great faith.

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#25 •••
@Sidewalker

It is a way to get out of hell for an eternity. Salvation is a solution that Nesus offered asan alternative.

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#26 •••
@Sidewalker
You are a devout man of great faith.


Praise the Lord. Did you know that I look like Rev. Jim Bakker? OMG, do you think Debby looks like Tammy Faye?

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@FLRW


FLRW wrote:
You are a devout man of great faith.

Praise the Lord. Did you know that I look like Rev. Jim Bakker? OMG, do you think Debby looks like Tammy Faye?


I think Debby is Tammy Faye incarnated.

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#28 •••
@Sidewalker

Debby is a faith defender.

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@Debby

So who are Nesus and Asan...And what solution was on offer...Perhaps it was for cleaning contact lenses or something, as an alternative to bleach.


Just guessing Debs.


Do they live in downtown Canada?

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@SergeantLynch

Asan is the Christian and Muslim belief that Jesus went up to heaven after his time on earth. That’s what the Bible records show.

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