Why Do Christians Believe God Became Flesh?

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#61 •••
@Stephen
This doesn't explain why it had to be a blood sacrifice and you haven't explained why. Is all you have done here is made statement about what you believe.
there is nothing in the bible that states why a man had to be beaten half to death, nailed to a wooden cross and speared between the ribs. resulting in a mans agonising, torturous cruel death.


I really wish I could probe the mind of God and get him to answer why he designed the world and life in such a way. As for the way he died, there are a few prophesies of his agony, but why God decided that this was the best way to redeem mankind, beats me. Unless, you have some extra insight.

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#62 •••
@DavidAZ
Stephen wrote:there is nothing in the bible that states why a man had to be beaten half to death, nailed to a wooden cross and speared between the ribs. resulting in a mans agonising, torturous cruel death.


DavodAZ wrote:I really wish I could probe the mind of God and get him to answer why he designed the world and life in such a way. As for the way he died, there are a few prophesies of his agony, but why God decided that this was the best way to redeem mankind, beats me. Unless, you have some extra insight.

Indeed , I can only assume the Jesus asked the same.

It doesn't sound at all much like the loving, caring and forgiving god that Christians portray him to be, does it.


And to repeat , god had no trouble telling his mother Mary ( blessed among all women) how great he (Jesus) was gong be, what he would inherit, and about the all peace that he would bring to the earth. Strange then that he kept from her the torturous cruel death or that he son would suffer an agonising death after being betrayed by his own people, isn't it? I mean, he didn't even mention to her that he had sent this child to die in a bloody sacrifice.

I suppose it would have been nice for Mary too, to have some of the "extra insight" that you mention above. I don't think that she would have been so fast to go bounding off to her cousin Elizabeth to tell he the "good news", then, would she?



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#63 •••
@Stephen

Jesus had to suffer because suffering is part of sacrifice, and Jesus was the “Lamb of God”, who takes away the sins of the world. John 1:29. Jesus physical torture was part of the payment required for our sins. We are redeemed “with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 1 Peter 1:19.

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@Debby
Jesus had to suffer because suffering is part of sacrifice, and Jesus was the “Lamb of God”, who takes away the sins of the world. 


Still doesn't answer why though does it? have you ever taken the time to thin about it? God be the super duper all singing all dancing god that you believe he is could have just as well said - "all the this sins committed by mankind are forgiven" and with a wave of his mighty hand it would have been done, no need for anyone to be beaten nearly to death, no need for anyone to be nailed to a cross and no need for a single drop of blood to be shed... at all!

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#65 •••
@Stephen

Jesus viewed his sacrifice as necessary to provide a final , once-for-all atonement for human sin, fulfilling the Old Testament sacrifice system. As the sinless “Lamb of God” his death substituted for humanity, satisfying divine Justice, and overcoming the penalty of death. This act was designed to redeem mankind, reconcile them with God, and to offer eternal life

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#66 •••
@Debby


Jesus viewed his sacrifice as necessary to provide a final , once-for-all atonement for human sin, fulfilling the Old Testament sacrifice system. As the sinless “Lamb of God” his death substituted for humanity, satisfying divine Justice, and overcoming the penalty of death. This act was designed to redeem mankind, reconcile them with God, and to offer eternal life.

Opinion counts for nothing.

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#67 •••
@Stephen

In this case it is a fulfillment of a promise. His sacrifice as necessary to provide a final, once -for-all atonement for human sin, fulfilling the Old Testament sacrifice system.

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@Debby

n this case it is a fulfillment of a promise. His sacrifice as necessary to provide a final, once -for-all atonement for human sin, fulfilling the Old Testament sacrifice system.


Yet another big FAIL.


It still doesn't answer why though does it? Have you ever taken the time to think about it? God being the super duper all singing all dancing god that you believe he is could have just as well said - "all the this sins committed by mankind are forgiven" and with a wave of his mighty majestic hand it would have been done, no need for anyone to be beaten nearly to death, no need for anyone to be nailed to a cross and no need for a single drop of blood to be shed... at all!



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#69 •••
@Stephen

In Christian Theology , God does not simply “wave his hand” to forgive all sins because , while God is loving, Be is also perfectly just and holy. To simply ignore or sweep away sin would be unjust, as sinister viewed not as a minor error, but a severe , destructive violation of divine law and a rebellion against God.

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