One God? It is simply Not True

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The Christians dogma still,to this day, insist that there was and is, only ever has been, only one god. This is a lie and the odd thing about their insistence is that their own scriptures state to the contrary.


Why is it that they have settled on the preferred idea of an omnipotent and everlasting single, male god?


When we actually look at the biblical text we see that even the Judeo/Christian bible says that god was not alone I his environment. I am sure many now are familiar with this verse that blows the Christian dogma of “only one god” clean out of the water.

 

 And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness: Genesis 1:26

 

 

And there is the famous and no getting away from, Psalm 82 that clearly states;


Psalm 82

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.....

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.


And there is the commandment where god refers again to other gods:


Exodus.20:3

 “You shall have no other gods before me”.

Genesis 11:7

“ let US go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”


Psalm 95:3

 For the Lord is a great God, and a great King above all gods.


Psalm 135:5

For I know that the Lord is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.

 

This is not to mention that these gods had families; sons of gods when descended to earth and took the daughters of men as wives..

 

 

 

And there are many occasions in the bible where one god is ordering the death of those who have or are supporters of other gods.


Deuteronomy 6:14-16

 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;

15 (For The Lord thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the Lord thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

16 Ye Shall not tempt the Lord your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.


So it's plain to see that there are other gods who were without doubt recognised and acknowledged by the Hebrew/ Judeo/Christian god. And this Hebrew./Judeo/Christian god is a self confessed “jealous god” and would kill and make to suffer for generations anyone who preferred one of these other gods to him.

 

 Who will deny this pluralism?Well Christians of course.


The usual Christian Reasoning is either to say that the “us " is the Trinity or that it is a heavenly assembly of angels.

 

 But can we really believe that the original audience for Genesis would understand the strictly Christian conception of an idea that had its roots in Rome thousands of years after? And the scripture doesn’t mention an “assembly of angels” but an assembly of “gods” plural

 


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#2 •••
@Stephen

The language in the Bible was designed to wean the people away from believing in many gods and to finally settle for one to become a monotheistic society. That was the difference between Judaism and its surrounding religions.

We still have polytheistic religions but Christianity stands out as a monotheistic religion.

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#3 •••
@Stephen

Are you a Hindu convert?


Are you a specific Paganism adherent?

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

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His profile says he is a Christian, but not a practicing Christian. That’s like being accepted by a college but too dumb to attend classes. The end result is failure.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

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@Debby

No. Being Christian, but not practicing is NOT like being accepted to college but too dumb to go. That's nonsense. Oh, sure, I suppose there are people like that. With the literacy rate in this country graduating from high school, but unable to read, yeah, that's dumb, but more than half of high school seniors are literate, so the system is succeeding more than failing, so your comparison fails. Whereas, being an unpracticing Christian merely says that Stephen does not affiliate with any given version of Christianity, but that says nothing about relative intelligence. Are you saying all non-practicing Christians are dumb? That's generalization, again. Collectivism. Everyone of a certain ilk in one basket. That's a false view of society.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#7 •••
@fauxlaw

A non practising Christian is like a Christian locking himself out of Heaven by ignoring the rules, same way a college student gets thrown out of college for not sticking to his course.

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#8 •••
@Debby

Some may cite Hebrews 10; 25, as a "rule" to attend church, but while that verse speaks to "assembling together" it also speaks to "exhorting one another," and that can be done just as well by outreach on one anothers' homes.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#9 •••
@fauxlaw

It emphasizes the importance of Christian fellowship and mutual strengthening to remain steadfast in faith amidst challenges.

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#10 •••
@Debby
His [ Stephen's]profile says he is a Christian, but not a practicing Christian. That’s like being accepted by a college but too dumb to attend classes. The end result is failure.


You really are a master of dumb statements aren't you "Debby"?

I didn't walk into a church at birth and demand to be Christened you thick FKR! It was against my will . Oh and I did attend...... under fkn duress you absolute clown.

What I did do though , and under my own free will was read, scrutinise and study the bible And a lot closer than you'll ever live to, bible dunce


Now why don't you address the OP ..... if you are capable.

And you must do better than saying this pile of shite!:


Debby wrote: The language in the Bible was designed to wean the people away from believing in many gods


Is that it!!!? FFS! The BIBLE states there are many gods you absolute clown. But here you are denying even those words that were spoken by YOUR god himself.

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#11 •••
@Stephen

John 17:3 is the most direct verse, where Jesus says, “ And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus whom you have sent.”

1 Corinthians 8:6 (“yet for us there is one God, the Father”) and Isaiah 45:5 (“I am the Lord and there is no one else”).

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#12 •••
@Debby

 It is clear beyond doubt that there is more than one single god being referred to in these scriptures, if these scriptures are to be taken at face value. It is a fact that every ancient civilisation recognised that other gods existed. Even the god of gods recognized this fact as did the sons of Gods who came to earth and raped the daughters of mankind.

 

Even the Ancient Hebrew God recognised this to be so. He actually commands 


1.   “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.


So here this god himself recognises other gods and wants his particular chosen people not to put any of these other gods above him. He goes on to say he is jealous, what has he to be jealous of if no other gods exist?


 The Jewish list of commandments simply says:


“You shall not recognize the gods of others in My presence".(Sh’mot 20:1-5).

 So again you see, this god, the god of the Hebrews is indeed recognising other gods.


And there is this deafening passage that makes it very plain and clear:


Psalm 82

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.....

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

 

Pleased, deny the fact until the blood runs from your ears but it is a fact that you cannot change as much as you try.

 


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#13 •••
@Stephen

Exodus 20:3 You shall have no other gods before me.

Deuteronomy 5:7 You shall have no other gods before me.

Isaiah 45:5-6 I am the Lord, and there is no other, there is no God but me.

The Bible explicitly tells you not to recognize other gods because there is only one God.Its called monotheism.

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#14 •••
@Debby

You have ignored the question. AGAIN!


Here>> what has he -God- to be jealous of if no other gods exist?

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#15 •••
@Stephen

In Exodus 20:5 and 34:14 God identifies himself as a jealous God specifically in the context of the 10 Commandments, demanding exclusive worship and forbidding idolatry.This jealousy is not based on selfish, human security, but rather a “righteous jealousy” or “protective love” that desires the best for humanity, guarding the covenant relationship.

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@Debby

You have ignored the question. AGAIN!


Here>> what has he -God- to be jealous of if no other gods exist?

 

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--> @Stephen

In Exodus 20:5 and 34:14 God identifies himself as a jealous God specifically in the context of the 10 Commandments, demanding exclusive worship and forbidding idolatry.This jealousy is not based on selfish, human security, but rather a “righteous jealousy” or “protective love” that desires the best for humanity, guarding the covenant relationship.

You missed the question AGAIN!!!


Here>> what has he -God- to be jealous of if no other gods exist?

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#17 •••
@Stephen

All religion have other gods and polytheism existed before Judaism, the Bible and Christianity. God is warning he will not tolerate the worship of other gods. That there is only one true God.

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@Debby



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.God is warning he will not tolerate the worship of other gods.

There you are. Wasn't hard was it? God and YOU admitting that that there are/were other gods.

That there is only one true God.


Well you and god contradict yourselves then don't you?

Your god even goes to the extent to order his own "chosen from among all nations" not to revile other gods, but you wouldn't know this because you are thick as mince when it comes to a book that you haven't studied for yourself.


Exodus 22:28


King James Version


28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.



Bible Dictionary - Revile.


In the Bible, to "revile" means to verbally abuse, insult, or slander someone with contemptuous, hateful language aimed at destroying their character or reputation. It represents a serious sin of the tongue—such as railing, mocking, or cruel taunting—often linked in Scripture to wickedness and pride. 







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#19 •••
@Stephen

That can be translated as god, angel or judge. It’s been used to refer to Israelite judges.

eg: haven’t ye heard it said, ye are gods (Elohim). That was referencing the congregation of judges. Refer to your translation notes.

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#20 •••
Gods here can be translated as god, angel or judge. It’s been used to refer to Israelite judges.
eg haven’t ye heard it said , ye are gods. (Elohim). That was referencing the congregation of judges.


You do realise don't you( maybe not) that every time that you post a reply on this thread that you prove my point and debunk your own?


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#21 •••
@Stephen

The first commandment in Exodus 20:3 you shall have no other gods before me. Christianity is a monotheistic religion which mandates the worship of one God, Yahweh. This commandment forbids idolatry, requiring undivided loyalty and forbidding the worship of false gods,spirits and material things.

you have regressed so far that you don’t even know the first of your 10 commandments. “You shall have no other gods before me.”

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#22 •••
The first commandment in Exodus 20:3 you shall have no other gods before me.

Indeed and this would have been the god of the Hebrews; his own "treasured chosen people", would it not?

And again, why would this Hebrew god be commanding the Hebrew nation not to neither worship nor revile gods of other nations if no other gods existed?



Christianity is a monotheistic religion which mandates the worship of one God, Yahweh.

Who Christians have magically turned into a Christian god and called him Jesus ( Yeshua ben Yusuf).




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#23 •••
@Stephen

There were other religions before Christianity that worshipped and created their own gods. It is called idolatry. God in Exodus 20:3 you shall have no other gods before me introduced monotheism and the worship of a single God and Jesus as the savour.

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