How Did Jesus Do It?

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#31 •••
@Stephen
Can you see your Biblical dilemma concerning walking through walls or locked doors?

For sure nowhere does it day the doors were open. So the doors had to be locked.

why were the doors locked? The disciples were afraid of the Jews and locked the doors of the meeting place for their safety.

jesus was not with them when they gathered in the locked room. He appeared to them suddenly even though the doors were locked. This is known as the post resurrection supernatural event.

Jesus also ascended to heaven before 500 witnesses as reported by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:6.

This was an even bigger more miraculous event than walking through the walls witnessed by 500 people.

why are you attacking the credibility of the Bible with weak arguments that have already been addressed by the Bible and Debby numerous times. You are trying to create a mockery guided by Satan. But you are failing because the Bible has survived the test of time.


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#32 •••
"DEBBY" WROTE:Since none of us were there. We have to turn to the Bible for answers.


Yes. where we get another helping of an ambiguous contradictory half story.



According to John 20:19-26 Jesus appeared in a room where the disciples were hiding with “doors locked” or shut. 


Indeed just like you, the author of John's gospel can't seem to make up his mind; was it locked or just simply shut/closed?


Why don't we look at your preferred choice/s of your most trusted bible/s?


the (NEW) Jerusalem Bible,

John 20:19 In the evening of that same day, the first day of the week, the doors were closed in the room where the disciples were, for fear of the Judaeans. Jesus came and stood among them. He said to them, 'Peace be with you,'


The (NEW) Revised Standard Version


John 20:19 When it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and the doors of the house where the disciples had met were locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, ‘Peace be with you.’



John 20:19

King James Version

19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.


You people - Christians - always expect the rest of us to suspend reality and the laws of nature, and are always far too quick to jump to the super power, super natural, excuse to explain something that even you don't understand but pretend to.


Read these verses and tell me what you both seem to be missing about this whole ambiguous saga?


Mark16: 3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?


So the above verse says they are concerned that they wouldn't be able to roll away the stone.

Then, we can assume that on arrival they were greeted with this sight;


Mark16:4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.


Can you see your BIBLICAL dilemma concerning walking through walls Or locked doors?

Or do I once again have show you to be the illiterate braindead bible dunce that you are?


>>>>>>>Take up the challenge above or simply stop posting on my threads, you fkn coward<<<<<<


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#33 •••
@Stephen

The door was not open it was shut and locked because the disciples were afraid of the Jews attacking them. But Jesus suddenly appeared before them like he walked through the wall. The story is recorded in the Bible.

As far as the stone covering the tomb. It was placed to cover the tombs entrance to prevent theft.

But when Mary approached the tomb, the rock was rolled away from the entrance. So she could enter.

Again both accounts are in the Bible separated by the timing the rock was place and the time the rock was moved. Learn to read your Bible.


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#34 •••
@Debby

The door was not open it was shut and locked 


Well again, this will depend on which contradictory gospel you choose e to believe doesn't it, you idiot? and I gave you the verses from YOUR OWN "most trusted bible/s"? So to save me the trouble of having to read and re-read your boring nauseating, weak and pathetic replies I shall just tell you this: He - Jesus - was already in the room you clown and there was no miracle of being able to walk through doors and or walls.

And here is how you should know.


You have clearly said "

"Debby wrote: " But when Mary approached the tomb, the rock was rolled away from the entrance. So she could enter ".

So tell me thicko, - Why would the stone have to be rolled away for a man, formed of flesh blood and bone to exit and recovering from his severe wounds , if he was given these "extra powers"? as both you and faux believe he was given.



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#35 •••
@Stephen
Jesus was already in the room and there was no miracle being able to walk through doors and walls.

Again you fail to understand the event described as a miracle in John 20:19-21.

There would be no reason to list it as a miracle if the door was open and Jesus walked in. The room was shut and without anyone opening the door Jesus appeared before his disciples.

In Christian theology Jesus appearing in a locked room (interpreted as walking through walls) in John 20:19-21 is considered a miracle.This event demonstrates the supernatural nature of his resurrected body , which could transcend physical obstacles . It signifies his divine power and victory over death.

The rock was rolled to cover the entrance so no one could steal the body. But the cave was found open and the rock moved before Mary approached the tomb. Even the body of Jesus was missing. That is another miracle listed in the Bible. You can try to challenge every miracle in the Bible but that will not help your descent into hell. Jesus is in heaven keeping score.

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#36 •••
@Debby
Stephen wrote: Jesus was already in the room and there was no miracle being able to walk through doors and walls.

Again you fail to understand the event described as a miracle in John 20:19-21.


Nope.


Are you sure that it was "listed" as a miracle, Bible DUNCE? and by whom was it listed as a "Miracle"?

And you didn't answer my question - Again!!


HERE IT IS AGAIN STUPID!

Why would the stone have to be rolled away for a man, formed of flesh blood and bone to exit and recovering from his severe wounds , if he was given these "extra powers"? as both you and faux believe he was given.


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#37 •••
@Stephen

The stone was Ives so that visitors to the tomb could see it was empty.

The stone that sealed Jesus’s tomb was moved not to allow Jesus to exit, but to allow witnesses to enter and see that he had already risen. According to the Gospel of Matthew , an angel of the Lord descended from heaven , causing an earthquake , and rolled back the stone. Read the Bible for answers. I cannot help you get out of hell.

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#38 •••
@Debby
The stone that sealed Jesus’s tomb was moved not to allow Jesus to exit, 


But there was no need to move anything, anywhere at all was there? Because according to you and faux Jesus had super powers that allowed him to walk through walls and doors. .

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#39 •••
@Stephen
There was no need to move anything anywhere at all was there?

The stone was moved not to allow Jesus to exit, but to allow witnesses to enter and see that he had already risen and the tomb was empty. Jesus did not need the rock moved, it was done for the benefit of witnesses who wanted to see the empty tomb.

That was the answer the Bible offers to explain the empty tomb and why the rock was moved.

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#40 •••
@Debby
.Bible offers to explain the empty tomb and why the rock was moved.


Nope. It does nothing of the sort.

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#41 •••
@Stephen
Nope it does nothing of the sort.

The stone was moved not to allow Jesus to exit, but to allow witnesses to enter and see that he had already risen and the tomb was empty.jesus did not need the rock moved, it was done for the benefit of the witnesses who wanted to see the empty tomb.

That was the answer the Bible offers to explain the empty tomb and why the rock was moved. It was God’s purpose.

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#42 •••

In the immortal words of Tommy Cooper.


Just like that.

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#43 •••
@SergeantLynch

Why are you here on a religious topic when you said No to religion. Is the demand for your sperm down or your masturbation is down?

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#44 •••
@Debby

Fear not...Just message me your address and I'll be on the next flight to Canada.

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#45 •••
@SergeantLynch

So you do home deliveries too. I am too young to start a family.

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