Well, one can believe it's demons, one can believe it's aliens who are abducting people to experiment on them and test drugs on them for some reason... Or one can think it's neither aliens nor demons, but a more simple natural explanation: Project Mkultra continues, and government still experiments on humans like it did for decades under project Mkultra.

I’ll take a look at the Vance quote later to make sure the context is correct and then speak on that.

Personally, I think most UFOs are just military aircraft being tested. No aliens in Area 51, just the next generation of fighters and stealth bombers.

If Vance said that, then as I guessed he is intellectually on a par with his lord and master.

Who else would go to Greenland without a coat.

So, how many credible people make a ton.

And stand and gaze at a clear night sky and you will see a plethora of moving objects and lights that cannot be readily identified as stars or planets...Okay, we can make accurate assumptions, but we can also make inaccurate assumptions...And there are more than a "ton" of people out there (credible or incredible) that would rather make inaccurate assumptions.

If an extra-terrestrial super-intelligence is technologically capable of getting here then why would it fuck about?

As far as we know it is only clever/stupid humans that fuck about... And that includes the credible tonnage.

Well, there's one more reason to find the God of Abraham to be lacking. Can't controll the demons.

"I don't think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway," Vance noted.

Prompted by Johnson, Vance later elaborated on his view.

"Well, look, I, I think that celestial beings who fly around, who do weird things to people — I think that the desire to describe everything celestial… to describe it as aliens — I mean every great world religion, including Christianity, the one that I believe in, has understood that there are weird things out there, and there are things that are very difficult to explain," he said.

"And I naturally go — when I hear about, sort of, extra-natural phenomenon — that's where I go to is the Christian understanding that, you know, there's a lotta good out there, but there's also some evil out there," he continued.

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I don't think it's any surprise that a very religious man would see an unexplained phenomenon through the lens of his religion.

Yes thats what skeptics do, ignore evidence, to maintain their world view. I take it either you dont know much about credible people seeing inexplicable phenomenon, or you, too, like to just stick your head in the sand and ignore evidence. I dont know which position is worse, denying evidence, or simply saying 'i dont know' and not being willing to take a position

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🧭 1. U.S. Navy pilot testimony (high credibility, but still anecdotal + sensor-based)

USS Nimitz UFO incident

1. David Fravor (Top Gun pilot)
2. Chad Underwood (sensor operator)

Claims:

1. Object dropped from ~80,000 ft to sea level in seconds
2. No visible propulsion, wings, or exhaust
3. Instant acceleration and directional changes

Why it’s considered “physics-defying”:

1. Acceleration estimates (from radar + pilot reports) imply hundreds to thousands of g-forces
2. No sonic boom despite supersonic speeds
3. No heat signature consistent with propulsion

Some analyses (e.g., by the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies) estimated:

1. 75g to 5,000g acceleration
2. Speeds up to ~24,000 mph (from radar timing)

👉 That would exceed known aerospace engineering limits by orders of magnitude.

🧭 2. Pentagon-confirmed UAP videos (FLIR, Gimbal, GoFast)

1. Verified by the U.S. Department of Defense as authentic recordings
2. Recorded by advanced military sensors

Observed characteristics often cited:

1. Objects rotating without aerodynamic surfaces
2. Apparent hypersonic speeds
3. No visible propulsion

Some officials and analysts have said these “appear to defy known physics” based on observed motion patterns (Futurism)

🧭 3. “Transmedium” behavior (air → water with no resistance)

Example:

1. USS Omaha UFO incident

Claim:

1. Object enters the ocean without splash or deceleration

This suggests:

1. No drag
2. No structural damage

👉 That would contradict known fluid dynamics if taken at face value

(The Daily Caller)

🧭 4. Multi-sensor anomalies (radar + infrared + visual)

Some of the most compelling cases involve:

1. Radar tracking
2. Infrared imaging
3. Eyewitness pilots

Scientific groups (e.g., Galileo Project led by Avi Loeb) are interested precisely because:

1. These are not just visual illusions
2. They sometimes involve correlated instrument data

🧭 5. Scientific interest acknowledging “unknowns”

A 2025 multi-author scientific review (including physicists and engineers) states:

1. UAP are being studied globally
2. Some cases remain unresolved despite investigation
3. They warrant serious scientific attention (arXiv)

Ive never seen a report of something appearing to violate known physics being later shown as man made. These claims aren't just objects doing strange things but rather violating physics as we know it

With Vance being the Vice Demon himself, he should know if UFO phenomenon is caused by demons.

Anyone, either credible or incredible can witness inexplicable phenomena.

And the key to your issue of UFO's and ET's is in the word inexplicable, and how we choose to interpret that which is inexplicable.

Fact is, there is currently no tangible evidence for the existence of ET's, and like I stated, if ET'S have the knowledge and ability to enable them to get here then why would they fuck about...And lets be honest, inexplicable ET's have been fucking with the minds of the credible for millennia.

J D Vance’s wife being a Hindu knows more about aliens and UFO’s than Vance. So we know where his source comes from.

For sure, in Trump World a Hindu is certainly classified as an alien.

India has the most number of Trump Towers in the world. Indians are considered wealthy Asians.

Some Indians are wealthy Asians.

But rather a lot are not.

Same can be said for most places.

India had the most billionaires in Asia at one time before China overtook them.

China too has rather a lot of non-billionaires...Who just like billionaires, have to shit and clean their own arses...Total shit estimated to be up to 3.5 tonnes in an average lifetime.

I guess that is your way of collecting evidence between church and state.

What do you think of Vance thinking ufo are demonic? I've been noticing a trend that this is argued by notable Christians. You have to admit definitive evidence is lacking that these are aliens yet we have credible evidence theres something going on here. Thats the sort of ingredients that sound demonic.

Hmmmm, light from the sun, setting horizons, or ground-based spotlights can hit the smooth curves or flat bottoms of cloud bases, creating glowing, metallic-looking or sharply defined circular spots. I saw them when I was a kid and I thought they were flying saucers.

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What do you think of Vance thinking ufo are demonic? I've been noticing a trend that this is argued by notable Christians. You have to admit definitive evidence is lacking that these are aliens yet we have credible evidence theres something going on here. Thats the sort of ingredients that sound demonic.

I think the last thing we should look at to figure out what's going on is religion.

Besides, what does he mean by demonic? Does he think UFOs are a sort of holograms created by those demonic spirits? If he thinks so, he should first prove demons exist.

It's more believable to think these UFOs are alien spacecrafts because there is a high probability that alien beings exist in other planets, which means we can prove mathematically that we are not alone in this universe.

Vance thinks UFOs are demons because they did not come the traditional way like humans did.