All religions are an example of working in history to create a good or better society.
Started by GreatfulGoy
All religions are an example of working in history to create a good or better society.
if 1 religion is true another that directly contradicts can absolutely be true at the same time is an evil most heinous hoax.
Absolutes like this alleged philosophy disconnect can be shown to be a sleight-of-hand attempt. I have investigated over 20 of the world's religions [regionally, east, west, north, south] and discovered they all agree with what is often perceived as uniquely Christian: "...all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them..." aka "The Golden Rule." I have posted these direct comparisons elsewhere on this site, and will not repeat here. I find components of truth and error in just about every religion in the world. To claim a direct opposition in all religions is debunked just by this one comparison. There are literally many other comparisons. Neither philosophy nor religion is of such exacting language as you appear to expect, mainly because virtually all religious and philosophical texts are written by fallible men and women, none of whom were, are, or will be perfect while earth-bound. So, let me be precise; the claim that the Holy Bible is infallible is demonstrated in error just by reading the volume in full, cover-to-cover. Sorry, but that is so. Still, I believe the Bible to be the word of God, and can, by the admonition of Paul in Hebrews, specifically in Hebrews 11, and also James 1: 5, determine truth from error. It's a simple formula: read in faith [that word is a verb more than a noun] - ponder - pray in faith - wait for the gift of discernment from the Holy Spirit. It works. Period.
We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.
- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University
Albert Einstein famously described the Bible in a 1954 personal letter as "a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish". He added that for him, the word God was "nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses".
Einstein’s theory of relativity E=mc2 was more cryptic than the Bible.
yeah paid over 80 millions on one of the most slamdunk cases and is all over the epstein files implicating him way more with even underage.
You must have missed my questions HERE>>>
Ok. Who did he rape.? When did he rape her? Was he ever charged with rape? Did he have a trial? Did he plead guilty or not guilty? When was his trial?
I do have more questions but if you wouldn't mind answering just those few it would be helpful and I will be grateful. I'd like to look into this (your accusation) for myself.
That is the exact reason why the full Epstein files are not being released. It’s to protect those that are named in it especially Donald Trump.
especially Donald Trump.
But the Goy has made claims he still hasn't backed up, has he bone head? There are hundreds of "names" mentioned in those files apparently so are we to look forward to hundreds of accusations of rape and sexual assault?
You really do make some pathetic statements most of the time , Deb. So what does it "specifically say about President Trump. And lets se your proof.
Trump is mentioned 1500 times in the Epstein files. Trump also appears over a dozen times in the Epstein flight logs to his island. There are even videos of Trump with the Epstein minors as well as allegations he raped some.
Stephen: The Goy has made claims he still hasn't backed up, has he bone head? There are hundreds of "names" mentioned in those files apparently so are we to look forward to hundreds of accusations of rape and sexual assault?
You really do make some pathetic statements most of the time , Deb. So what does it "specifically say about President Trump. And lets see your proof.
Debby:Trump is mentioned 1500 times in the Epstein files. Trump also appears over a dozen times in the Epstein flight logs to his island. There are even videos of Trump with the Epstein minors as well as allegations he raped some.
Ok So lets see some some proof how many allegations are there that TRUMP raped anyone on the Epstein island? where's' your evidence that Trump actually flew to Epstein Island.
Why didn't the Democrats release all these files while they were in office?
You are full of shite and you know it deb.
The DOJ has held back over 3 million Epstein files especially those with Trump’s name in it. That is why so little is known about Trumps decade long relationship with Epstein.
you think epstein victims and rape victims in general want the whole world knowing typically or ask to stay anonymous?
The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.
It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.
The victims want justice. But the DOJ is holding back important evidence available in the remaining files.
GOY: you think epstein victims and rape victims in general want the whole world knowing typically or ask to stay?
If that be the case, the likes of clowns such as you can say anything you wish about anyone in those files going by your claim simply because mud sticks and casts doubt especially the weak minded that cannot think for themselves.. So I'll call BS on that . For the simple reason that these alleged "victims" are , like anywhere else in the Wester world , would be able to choose to remain anonymous And simply be/ and are referred to as "victim A, B, or C. So given that fact, don't you believe that those demented multi millionaire Dems would have offered YOUR alleged "victims" a couple a million $ a piece to take the stand while retaining their anonymity?
DEBBY:Why didn't the Democrats release all these files while they were in office?
You've avoided the question AGAIN!!
Stephen wrote: >>>>Why didn't the Democrats release all these files while they were in office?
The Democrats already impeached Trump twice but could not get the Republicans to convict Trump. It would have ended like the other sex scandals Trump has been implicated in. There were more important issues facing the country.
Hmmmmm GG.
"The Bible" is a book and was a loose basis for the establishment of theo-political empires, and thanks to generational data transfer still remains so.
So the book is inanimate and therefore neither moral or immoral, whereas the conflict between ideological business models is based upon selfishness and self righteousness and thus necessarily immoral with regard to the ideological enemy.
I too as an individual thinking unit am as moral as it is necessary to be...Such are the demands of survival...Therefore in simplistic terms when compared with an inanimate book I am potentially a superior source of both morality and immorality... And I say potentially, because I'm not certain at all what "morality" is within a universal context...Though definitively within a human context I would suggest that moral and immoral all come under the same general heading of morality.
You judge yourself by your moral standards and not by your knowledge and ability to verify the truth. You built an idol of yourself on assumptions.
Debby:
Given your propensity to offer unsourced claims, I'll add this to them. Cite it. By the way, Jamie Raskin [D-MD] is a bleeb, not a credible source. See Eric Swallowell.
We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.
- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University
Debby:
The Democrats already impeached Trump twice but could not get the Republicans to convict Trump. It would have ended like the other sex scandals Trump has been implicated in. There were more important issues facing the country.
The failed impeachments violated House Rules that Nancy Pelosi, herself, ratified each beginning session in which the impeachments were attempted to be convictions. Pelosi appointed two keystone cops to develop the charges and prosecute their cases before the Senate. Failed cases at the outset. A third - also a failure, will come out of the 120th Congress for the same reasons if Democrats take the House.
We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.
- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University
Yes, books are inanimate objects, but human animation creates them, just as it creates empires. Far from a combination that always fails, it has the capacity to make both wildly successful. That outcome is worth the effort to see to its accomplishment, but not by pessimism.
We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.
- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University
Trump-was later convicted of 34 felony counts, He was forced to pay 5 million is a rape case by EJean Carroll’s. He is still pending a tax fraud case where he was fined over 300 million.
Yes, humans create and are therefore a key element of global material evolution.
And I will assume that human global creativity will be the basis of a future universal evolutionary role...But perhaps more so in AI form.
Debby wrote:
You judge yourself by your moral standards and not by your knowledge and ability to verify the truth. You built an idol of yourself on assumptions.
Well, I can apply exactly the same criteria to the self idolatry that is Debby...Such is the basis of our ongoing contention and discussion.
You haven’t produced an original thought throughout our discussion. You just echo what has been said with your poor understanding of the topic.
Hi Debs.
Well, all thoughts are original...Though all thoughts will be adaptations of acquired data...And the same applies to me as it applies to you.
Look at your contributions to these threads and what you will see is the repetition of the same old theistic mantra/s...Mantras that do not verify the naive Christian hypothesis that you have chosen to expound...So my mantra is to easily point out the shortcomings and flaws in the Christian story...Therefore, until you can substantiate any of your claims you must be prepared to expect my "echo".
And for sure, mine, yours and everyone's understanding of creation and existence is "poor"...In fact, we haven't got a clue.
There are over 2 billion Christians who read the Bible. Since the printing press erased the human errors from coping to reproduce the Bible. No major changes or corrections have been announced. This confirms the Bible is authenticated.
For sure, "The Bible" is the bible is a book of mythical Judaic history and people who join Christian societies will perhaps read it.
Though not all members will have read it and not all members will be such avid readers.
And certainly not all names on the list will actually identify as Christian...People such as myself will have been co-opted onto the list without permission or approval.
It's ridiculous really that one can be deemed sexually immature at the age of fifteen and yet can decide to be a Christian at 3 months...How clever stupid is that Debs?
Heaven came before sexually maturity.
You are making accurate criticisms of all except the Baptists and Pentecostals that oppose infant baptism (so do Anabaptists like the Amish). This is still leaving you with the dilemma of being a low church Protestant remaining non-disproven.
The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.
It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.