Why God allows evil?

Why does God allow cancer? I became an Atheist at 11 when my 7 year old cousin died from leukemia.

Why does God allow cancer?

So that people can show empathy and care for those with cancer, and try to help them.

You don't get bored asking the same fkn question over and over again?

Be more creative, dud. You can do it.

There is no Magic Man bethroned in a magical place casting death and destruction upon the human species.

And cancer is a consequence of a complex organic system's tendency to malfunction.

GOD principle on the other hand, is a non-interventionist and non-judgemental universal inevitability that continues to frustrate the thinking species.

You don't get bored asking the same fkn question over and over again?

I don't personally believe in what I am saying. I am just exploring.

There is no Magic Man bethroned in a magical place casting death and destruction upon the human species

This sounds like unproved claim. As far as I know, God exists and I am his/her favorite person. This is just what I prefer to believe.

No, that syllogism isn't [a syllogism], for two reasons: All propositions must be true, and there must be at least one conclusion.

Your P1 is not always correct; it is conditional on the person being able to fulfill their own need, but have not yet reached the point of even realizing they have the need while being obvious to another, or the person has it scheduled, and their own fulfillment is just premature. You have not allowed for those conditions.

Your P2 is not a truth. Evil is not that someone has an unfulfilled need, because evil cannot fulfill the need, anyway. Evil does not care that there is a need. Lack of fulfillment has many causes, including that a need has only just been realized, and no one else may have yet seen the need to fulfill it. Or laziness, which may be evil, or may be a misapplied criticism, but it is not inherently evil, because what may appear to someone else as being lazy may be that the person accused of it may, in fact, be taking a rest break from great labor just performed, but not witnessed by the accuser.

Your P4 is also not true, for the same reasons as P2.

Your P5, likewise is not true, for the same reason as P2.

Finally, where is your conclusion?

God allows evil, because it is necessary that there be opposition in all things. We may think that the first temptation of Christ in the wilderness before he began his ministry as an adult [because I think Jesus began his ministry even as a child, for example, by his reading the scriptures, and interpreting them for the temple elders when Jesus was only 12 years of age] was to challenge Jesus to use his power to make bread from a stone to satisfy his hunger. That's a common interpretation, but the greater temptation was for Jesus to use the power even the Devil acknowledged he had, but tempted Christ by even planting doubt that the power was his to do it in the first place. Doubt, itself, may be an evil one does to one's self, regardless of any temptation from another. Jesus taught that his two commandments [love God, and love our neighbor] were the two great commandments, meaning more important than any others. Opposition is more than just a challenge, because an ordinary challenge often is applied to encourage us to do better than we thought we could accomplish. There is no evil in that, either by the challenger, nor by the one challenged. The challenges given by the Devil to Christ were not these beneficial types of challenges. Temptation to do evil is to anything which God would not approve, because they mostly create power, pride and possession in ourselves rather than encouraging others to accomplish great tasks. That is evil. To make bread for his own satisfaction. To cast himself off a high place to test the angels to save him. Take possession of all the earth just for bowing down to the Devil. All of these challenges were temptations because they were accusations that Jesus was not endowed with power to accomplish those things, not that any of the challenges were inherently evil. It is not evil to make bread, even from a stone. When it is nourishing, that is good. It is not evil to give others opportunity to serve. Within opportunity is unity: working together to do good and useful things. Taking possession of earthly things is part of the command to have dominion of the earth, to make of it a paradise for others, Dominion is not evil when it is used to improrve anything we are given to manage.

Evil is not that someone has an unfulfilled need, because evil cannot fulfill the need

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That's the thing...You don't know.

The claim is that you do know...Which is a false claim.

As far as we are able to know, there is no GOD.

GOD has only ever been a fantasy hypothesis, created by a thinking species.

If not, show me GOD.

As far as we are able to know, there is no GOD

We don't know that.

Actually, smart people know that.

Nope.

Why does God allow scammers? Based on historical scams, Barry Minkow is considered one of the biggest con preachers, having used his position at San Diego Community Bible Church to embezzle over $3 million while also running a $100 million Ponzi scheme in his earlier life. Others frequently cited include Jim Bakker, known for massive fraudulent fundraising in the 1980s.

Hmmm, do you believe what Jim Bakker believes or what Stephen Hawking believes?

Hmmm, do you believe what Jim Bakker believes or what Stephen Hawking believes?

Neither.

Yes, believe is somewhat futile.

I'm guessing that Stephen wasn't big in the belief department.

Though the success of scammers is reliant upon the foolishness of the scammable...And religion and associated belief is the perfect environment in which to find them.

A bit like wasps licking the honeydew out of the arses of aphids.

Though the success of scammers is reliant upon the foolishness of the scammable...And religion and associated belief is the perfect environment in which to find them

Doubt it. Many people fall for scams irrelevant of religion or atheism.

Exactly, scammers are scammers and the scammable will be scammed...Theist, atheist or dreamboat.

Why does God allow scammers? 

Might as well ask why God allows just about anything. The answer is because he did not withdraw from Adam and Eve [therefore, us, as well - all of us born on Earth] but, rather, gave to us dominion of the Earth. Of course, He gave instruction to A&E on the basic principles of proper dominion, just so they could 1. learn how to do it with good consequences, 2. Ensure natural resources were not wasted, 3. Ensure their descendants would be taught these lessons, and abide by them. We have failed in many respects to uphold these suggestions, and we will be, eventually, properly dealt with for our disobedience.

Does it really make sense: a super mind was alone and bored forever, and then for some reason one day created an experiment to lord over and play hide and seek with? Doesn’t it make more sense that a universe came first, and minds are things that evolve in universes? If you ask what or who created the universe and you answer “god”, there is then the problem of who or what created “god”. How could you have access to that knowledge and reliably demonstrate this being’s existence and nature? Which god? Could “god” be an unconscious force, the sum total of the universe, or just advanced alien life? Could god be mortal and dead now? Could there be an afterlife and no god and vice versa? Don’t omnipotence and omniscience conflict logically? Doesn’t god explain complexity with more complexity, a mystery with a bigger mystery? Isn’t this a non-explanation which merely shifts all the same questions from the universe to “god”?

Does it really make sense: a super mind was alone and bored forever, and then for some reason one day created an experiment to lord over and play hide and seek with? Doesn’t it make more sense that a universe came first, and minds are things that evolve in universes? If you ask what or who created the universe and you answer “god”, there is then the problem of who or what created “god”.

As you may recall FLRW, that, were in a debate forum not the logical, common sense critical thinking forum. :--)) O ((--:

Yes, it doesn't make sense.

Everything makes no sense from an inceptual perspective...GOD the stuff...Or any sort of stuff.

Though as far as we know or are able to know, in more or less detail, stuff is as stuff does.

There is a natural tendency for the human mind to pervert things. But god has given humans freewill and this creates the evil we see around us.

If there is a GOD, that is.

And I suppose that you will always base such notions upon the mythological humanoid of old Middle Eastern folk tales.

So GOD is creation and evolution, and therein came thinking primate and other species...And now we have created technology and our probable successor.

In a super-techno universe if indeed there is a purpose to everything, I'm guessing that the ultimate GOD will also be super-techno.

It is true. In everything we do, we see God. God is part of our DNA.

Well yes, as in GOD the general principle of material creation and evolution...But not as in GOD the floaty about magic-man of Middle Eastern folk tales.

And neither you nor I has seen the magic fella, and neither did Middle Eastern story tellers, who made him up because they knew no better other than to blame it on a magic-man.

That is why Jesus promoted faith, a path to salvation.

Yes, faith in a hypothetical magic-man, which ultimately lead to his execution...Mortal salvation indeed.